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	<title>Comments on: Mission Accomplished! In Iraq. Remember Iraq? We Were At The War There?</title>
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		<title>By: Rick Cain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well crap we coulda done this years ago.</description>
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		<title>By: RTaylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>RTaylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The area will be fine.  Persians and Arabs has so much love for one another.</description>
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		<title>By: John Paradox</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Paradox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;# 5 GigG said, 
#1
Japan’s military is able to be like it is because the US’s military is like it is.
&lt;/i&gt;

But they&#039;re really good a fighting &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiju&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;giant monsters&lt;/a&gt;
:)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i># 5 GigG said,<br />
#1<br />
Japan’s military is able to be like it is because the US’s military is like it is.<br />
</i></p>
<p>But they&#8217;re really good a fighting <a HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiju" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">giant monsters</a><br />
 <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
J/P=?</p>
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		<title>By: LDA</title>
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		<dc:creator>LDA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5 GigG

Largely true.

However the Japanese military may have to change it&#039;s stance drastically due to the posture of America and it&#039;s allies as it relates to China&#039;s military (missile shields etc.) and the developments in the worlds biggest prison camp North Korea partially due to the help provided by, for example, the company Rumsfeld worked for between roles in the government..

&quot;Mr Rumsfeld was a non-executive director of ABB, a European engineering giant based in Zurich, when it won a $US200 million contract to provide the design and key components for the reactors. He sat on the board from 1990 to 2001, earning $US190,000 a year. He left to join the Bush Administration.&quot; Sydney Morning Herald.

The problem is not the (mostly honourable and brave) military or the government (which is really the people) but the crooks that get to make decisions for them (from both Mafia parties).

I wish the world was simple and there was just right and wrong but it is not, therefore I am glad that men and women are willing to go to war to stop people like Saddam and I thank them for it. The world is better off without him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5 GigG</p>
<p>Largely true.</p>
<p>However the Japanese military may have to change it&#8217;s stance drastically due to the posture of America and it&#8217;s allies as it relates to China&#8217;s military (missile shields etc.) and the developments in the worlds biggest prison camp North Korea partially due to the help provided by, for example, the company Rumsfeld worked for between roles in the government..</p>
<p>&#8220;Mr Rumsfeld was a non-executive director of ABB, a European engineering giant based in Zurich, when it won a $US200 million contract to provide the design and key components for the reactors. He sat on the board from 1990 to 2001, earning $US190,000 a year. He left to join the Bush Administration.&#8221; Sydney Morning Herald.</p>
<p>The problem is not the (mostly honourable and brave) military or the government (which is really the people) but the crooks that get to make decisions for them (from both Mafia parties).</p>
<p>I wish the world was simple and there was just right and wrong but it is not, therefore I am glad that men and women are willing to go to war to stop people like Saddam and I thank them for it. The world is better off without him.</p>
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		<title>By: Jägermeister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jägermeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21 - GetUsedToIt - &lt;i&gt;We still have bases and soldiers stationed in Germany…&lt;/i&gt;

And that&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;just one country&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21 &#8211; GetUsedToIt &#8211; <i>We still have bases and soldiers stationed in Germany…</i></p>
<p>And that&#8217;s <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">just one country</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GetUsedToIt</title>
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		<dc:creator>GetUsedToIt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you that think we will ever be completely out of Iraq, consider this:  We still have bases and soldiers stationed in Germany...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you that think we will ever be completely out of Iraq, consider this:  We still have bases and soldiers stationed in Germany&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jägermeister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jägermeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2 - The0ne - &lt;i&gt;But then we might have to compete with Japan in the number of teen suicides because they are being pressured to do well in school.&lt;/i&gt;

LOL - Good one. As if it would happen.

#4 - jbenson2 - &lt;i&gt;8 years in Iraq and the US economy did OK.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lafn.org/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart-August2006.gif&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;No, it didn&#039;t.&lt;/a&gt;

#7 - Dallas - &lt;i&gt;gee, I felt so good while I was doing coke for 8 years.&lt;/i&gt;

LMAO

#15 - theone - &lt;i&gt;Do you realize how LONG 8 years is, not to mention the kids dying?&lt;/i&gt;

He don&#039;t care. He has never served.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2 &#8211; The0ne &#8211; <i>But then we might have to compete with Japan in the number of teen suicides because they are being pressured to do well in school.</i></p>
<p>LOL &#8211; Good one. As if it would happen.</p>
<p>#4 &#8211; jbenson2 &#8211; <i>8 years in Iraq and the US economy did OK.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.lafn.org/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart-August2006.gif" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">No, it didn&#8217;t.</a></p>
<p>#7 &#8211; Dallas &#8211; <i>gee, I felt so good while I was doing coke for 8 years.</i></p>
<p>LMAO</p>
<p>#15 &#8211; theone &#8211; <i>Do you realize how LONG 8 years is, not to mention the kids dying?</i></p>
<p>He don&#8217;t care. He has never served.</p>
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		<title>By: jescott418</title>
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		<dc:creator>jescott418</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our military is just not capable of long term occupation. I don&#039;t see Iraq staying calm for very long. In fact I believe it has already started. I thought we were just going to look for Weapons of mass destruction and leave? I guess that never happen nor did any WMD show up. What a waste of military men and woman. Now we will probably do the same in Afganistan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our military is just not capable of long term occupation. I don&#8217;t see Iraq staying calm for very long. In fact I believe it has already started. I thought we were just going to look for Weapons of mass destruction and leave? I guess that never happen nor did any WMD show up. What a waste of military men and woman. Now we will probably do the same in Afganistan.</p>
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		<title>By: LibertyLover</title>
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		<dc:creator>LibertyLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#17, Wrong damned screen!</description>
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		<title>By: LibertyLover</title>
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		<dc:creator>LibertyLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy wrote the &quot;regulations&quot; that &quot;conveniently discourages&quot; companies from voluntarily labeling their products saying they were made without rBGH.  rBGH, by the way, is outlawed in every country but the US (this is one area I think we should listen to the rest of the world on).  If you voluntarily label your milk as hormone-free, you are going to court.

He also implemented a plan to sue small farmers if there was any trace of Monsanto contamination on their fields (like seeds being carried by the wind or bird crap).  Numerous American and Canadian farmers have been sued because the Monsanto &quot;gene&quot; has ended up in their fields through no fault of their own.

In 2005, Monsanto admitted to bribing an Indonesian official to sidestep an environmental assessment by the government of its genetically modified cotton.

http://tinyurl.com/njtzwl

In 2007, Monsanto was sued by France for false advertising related to its flagship herbicide Roundup. Monsanto was found guilty for misleading consumers by claiming that Roundup was biodegradable and left soil clean after its usage. In fact, Roundup has been shown to be dangerous to the environment and toxic to aquatic life.

http://tinyurl.com/kkdd75

This man may not have worked there the last few years, but his ties with them still exist.  Look up how much stock he still has in the company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy wrote the &#8220;regulations&#8221; that &#8220;conveniently discourages&#8221; companies from voluntarily labeling their products saying they were made without rBGH.  rBGH, by the way, is outlawed in every country but the US (this is one area I think we should listen to the rest of the world on).  If you voluntarily label your milk as hormone-free, you are going to court.</p>
<p>He also implemented a plan to sue small farmers if there was any trace of Monsanto contamination on their fields (like seeds being carried by the wind or bird crap).  Numerous American and Canadian farmers have been sued because the Monsanto &#8220;gene&#8221; has ended up in their fields through no fault of their own.</p>
<p>In 2005, Monsanto admitted to bribing an Indonesian official to sidestep an environmental assessment by the government of its genetically modified cotton.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/njtzwl" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/njtzwl' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/njtzwl</a></p>
<p>In 2007, Monsanto was sued by France for false advertising related to its flagship herbicide Roundup. Monsanto was found guilty for misleading consumers by claiming that Roundup was biodegradable and left soil clean after its usage. In fact, Roundup has been shown to be dangerous to the environment and toxic to aquatic life.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/kkdd75" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/kkdd75' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/kkdd75</a></p>
<p>This man may not have worked there the last few years, but his ties with them still exist.  Look up how much stock he still has in the company.</p>
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		<title>By: brm</title>
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		<dc:creator>brm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bizarro land.

&quot;out of Iraq&quot; = 130,000 troops? Call me when we have zero stationed there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bizarro land.</p>
<p>&#8220;out of Iraq&#8221; = 130,000 troops? Call me when we have zero stationed there.</p>
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		<title>By: The0ne</title>
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		<dc:creator>The0ne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#4 cracked me hard pretty hard. Still laughing as I type this :)

Sonny, you really should try the military and put yourself in a war for 8 years. See how you like it. You&#039;re not going to get to cry for sh*t once you&#039;re in there that&#039;s for sure. Do you realize how LONG 8 years is, not to mention the kids dying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#4 cracked me hard pretty hard. Still laughing as I type this <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sonny, you really should try the military and put yourself in a war for 8 years. See how you like it. You&#8217;re not going to get to cry for sh*t once you&#8217;re in there that&#8217;s for sure. Do you realize how LONG 8 years is, not to mention the kids dying?</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The war was supposed to be a terrorist recruiting tool.  Not working out that way when they are losing.  

We were told Iran was the real winner of the war.  Then the supposed Iranian puppet ordered the crushing of the Mahdi Army, and its leader went into hiding, offered a truce, and said he would rebuild his army as a social services organization, kind of like the Catholic Church after the Crusades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The war was supposed to be a terrorist recruiting tool.  Not working out that way when they are losing.  </p>
<p>We were told Iran was the real winner of the war.  Then the supposed Iranian puppet ordered the crushing of the Mahdi Army, and its leader went into hiding, offered a truce, and said he would rebuild his army as a social services organization, kind of like the Catholic Church after the Crusades.</p>
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		<title>By: cosanostradamus</title>
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		<dc:creator>cosanostradamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.
&lt;i&gt;# 8 Olo Baggins of Bywater said,  on July 1st, 2009 at 6:29 am
Huh. Did you read even the first paragraph of the article up there?&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, no one is celebrating: Because there IS nothing to celebrate. But I also read the poll that said that 75% of Americans approved of the pullout. Both stories are saying the same thing: People don&#039;t know what&#039;s actually going on. They want the troops home, but where are they now? Still &quot;over there.&quot; Get it, now?

WaPo would love for us to forget the war they helped get started. So would Obama. But we will never forget it, even if the tame corporate media keep trying to scramble the news with rubbish like the Michael Jackson &quot;story,&quot; and this self-fulfilling article that tells us that we don&#039;t care about Iraq any more, that we&#039;re happy with Obama&#039;s war, that we actually like all the hooey we&#039;re getting instead of a real end to the war. Bullsh*t.

Learn to read, willya?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.<br />
<i># 8 Olo Baggins of Bywater said,  on July 1st, 2009 at 6:29 am<br />
Huh. Did you read even the first paragraph of the article up there?</i></p>
<p>Yes, no one is celebrating: Because there IS nothing to celebrate. But I also read the poll that said that 75% of Americans approved of the pullout. Both stories are saying the same thing: People don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s actually going on. They want the troops home, but where are they now? Still &#8220;over there.&#8221; Get it, now?</p>
<p>WaPo would love for us to forget the war they helped get started. So would Obama. But we will never forget it, even if the tame corporate media keep trying to scramble the news with rubbish like the Michael Jackson &#8220;story,&#8221; and this self-fulfilling article that tells us that we don&#8217;t care about Iraq any more, that we&#8217;re happy with Obama&#8217;s war, that we actually like all the hooey we&#8217;re getting instead of a real end to the war. Bullsh*t.</p>
<p>Learn to read, willya?<br />
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3 - I&#039;ll bet a $1 that in a year we will still be spending $10B a month in Iraq.</description>
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