Comments on: No Agenda #109 – Now On Cage Match http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/02/no-agenda-109-now-on-cage-match/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:29:28 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Alternating Current http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/02/no-agenda-109-now-on-cage-match/comment-page-1/#comment-1549203 Alternating Current Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:57:19 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52205#comment-1549203 tecban, it would be fine if the show was promoted as such. "it’s two guys spouting off" Saying its your Gateway to REAL information is setting the mark kinda high. I guess if you dont care if the stuff they yap about is true or not, it doesn't matter. tecban, it would be fine if the show was promoted as such. “it’s two guys spouting off”
Saying its your Gateway to REAL information is setting the mark kinda high.

I guess if you dont care if the stuff they yap about is true or not, it doesn’t matter.

]]> By: tecban http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/02/no-agenda-109-now-on-cage-match/comment-page-1/#comment-1548975 tecban Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:11:52 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52205#comment-1548975 #19 et al I agree, they both dropped the ball on the NVIC thing, and it got old as the topic went on. Adam should have at least read the Wikipedia article on the NVIC before ranting about it. Usually JCD sniffs out those kind of mistakes and calls Adam out more quickly, but he let it go for some reason. (If I was able to find the information while listening, I'm sure JCD did too.) All that being said, the podcast has always kind of just been a chance to eavesdrop into a conversation between these two interesting guys. They aren't presenting journalism or legal arguments - it's two guys spouting off, and this isn't the first time they've been flat out wrong like this. For this show in this format, I prefer the conversational feel over them reading through too many notes, even if it means sometimes they miss the mark. Overall the episode was a good one, even if that topic gave me mild eye strain from over-rolling. #19 et al I agree, they both dropped the ball on the NVIC thing, and it got old as the topic went on. Adam should have at least read the Wikipedia article on the NVIC before ranting about it. Usually JCD sniffs out those kind of mistakes and calls Adam out more quickly, but he let it go for some reason. (If I was able to find the information while listening, I’m sure JCD did too.)

All that being said, the podcast has always kind of just been a chance to eavesdrop into a conversation between these two interesting guys. They aren’t presenting journalism or legal arguments – it’s two guys spouting off, and this isn’t the first time they’ve been flat out wrong like this. For this show in this format, I prefer the conversational feel over them reading through too many notes, even if it means sometimes they miss the mark.

Overall the episode was a good one, even if that topic gave me mild eye strain from over-rolling.

]]> By: Alternating Current http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/02/no-agenda-109-now-on-cage-match/comment-page-1/#comment-1548945 Alternating Current Sat, 04 Jul 2009 08:46:25 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52205#comment-1548945 Its "new media" people. No need to fact check. (something we learned from "real media") Oh, and we can eat on air and we don't wear headphones either. No need for that. 30 seconds of show prep (not 30 minutes!) Distrust anything and everything. Hell we can be wrong 80% of the time.. it's all about numbers my friends. All about numbers. If we can double the listeners by making up shit, that we will do. Just like any other network or podcast you have ever know. So please.. Wont you give generously to our show. We have no idea what we will spend the money on. We really have no reason to ask for money because we just wing it. But still. We love you and we know you have money to shovel our way. Please give. Love you. Mean it. Gotta run. My new girlfriend is calling. She needs to go shopping for new shoes. -AC Its “new media” people. No need to fact check.
(something we learned from “real media”)

Oh, and we can eat on air and we don’t wear headphones either. No need for that.

30 seconds of show prep (not 30 minutes!) Distrust anything and everything. Hell we can be wrong 80% of the time.. it’s all about numbers my friends. All about numbers. If we can double the listeners by making up shit, that we will do. Just like any other network or podcast you have ever know.

So please.. Wont you give generously to our show. We have no idea what we will spend the money on. We really have no reason to ask for money because we just wing it. But still. We love you and we know you have money to shovel our way. Please give. Love you. Mean it.

Gotta run. My new girlfriend is calling. She needs to go shopping for new shoes.

-AC

]]> By: Bill http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/02/no-agenda-109-now-on-cage-match/comment-page-1/#comment-1548922 Bill Sat, 04 Jul 2009 06:21:43 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52205#comment-1548922 Was anyone else really disappointed by this episode, especially their treatment of the forced vaccine section? It seemed they assumed that it was an official Govt statement, realised it was from a group saying the same things as them, then rather than accept they had misunderstood the situation and maybe commit to some further research to verify what she was saying. Rather to make unfalsafiable claims about the nature of her work and the group, effectively slander her and then blithely continue to engage in defamation of character was disappointing and out of order. What on earth motivated them to do it? I always respected JCD's sense for a story etc but he seriously dropped the ball here. Really poor show (in more ways than one) Was anyone else really disappointed by this episode, especially their treatment of the forced vaccine section? It seemed they assumed that it was an official Govt statement, realised it was from a group saying the same things as them, then rather than accept they had misunderstood the situation and maybe commit to some further research to verify what she was saying. Rather to make unfalsafiable claims about the nature of her work and the group, effectively slander her and then blithely continue to engage in defamation of character was disappointing and out of order. What on earth motivated them to do it? I always respected JCD’s sense for a story etc but he seriously dropped the ball here. Really poor show (in more ways than one)

]]> By: Jlspiry http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/02/no-agenda-109-now-on-cage-match/comment-page-1/#comment-1548917 Jlspiry Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:03:02 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52205#comment-1548917 Freaking LOVED the show. I'm a fellow non-pucker like Adam, though you guys really haven't talked about that in a long time. My dad works for the IRS and I've got him listening to you guys. I watched the "World According to Monsanto" video and a bunch of others you've suggested. If ya'all want a new conspiracy, those florescent light bulbs not only carry mercury but they make AM stations crappy. That's right, "THEY" are pushing those bulbs so we can't listen to Michael Savage. Can't wait 'til Sunday, SPiry Freaking LOVED the show. I’m a fellow non-pucker like Adam, though you guys really haven’t talked about that in a long time.
My dad works for the IRS and I’ve got him listening to you guys. I watched the “World According to Monsanto” video and a bunch of others you’ve suggested.
If ya’all want a new conspiracy, those florescent light bulbs not only carry mercury but they make AM stations crappy. That’s right, “THEY” are pushing those bulbs so we can’t listen to Michael Savage.

Can’t wait ’til Sunday,
SPiry

]]> By: Ken http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/02/no-agenda-109-now-on-cage-match/comment-page-1/#comment-1548906 Ken Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:09:37 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52205#comment-1548906 I like how at 4:00 into the podcast, Curry brags about how in 35 minutes he has done all the research he needs, including knowing everything about forced vaccinations and code reds. Maybe if he spent 36 minutes he would have realized that the woman from the NVIC is not an official govt. spokesperson. Someone needs to tell him that a *.org website is not the same as a *.gov website. Pretty fucking sloppy episode guys. I like how at 4:00 into the podcast, Curry brags about how in 35 minutes he has done all the research he needs, including knowing everything about forced vaccinations and code reds. Maybe if he spent 36 minutes he would have realized that the woman from the NVIC is not an official govt. spokesperson. Someone needs to tell him that a *.org website is not the same as a *.gov website.

Pretty fucking sloppy episode guys.

]]> By: JMFreeh http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/02/no-agenda-109-now-on-cage-match/comment-page-1/#comment-1548861 JMFreeh Sat, 04 Jul 2009 01:45:17 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52205#comment-1548861 "We discuss the anomaly on the Sunday show…" Oh, and I'll be SURE to spend a good part of my Sunday listening to excuses about the "anomaly." That would be a GREAT use of my time. Stop the effing Beavis and Butthead routine. You're just embarrassing yourselves. And yeah, get a little editorial help once in a while. Curry obviously can't handle it, and doesn't care. “We discuss the anomaly on the Sunday show…”

Oh, and I’ll be SURE to spend a good part of my Sunday listening to excuses about the “anomaly.” That would be a GREAT use of my time.

Stop the effing Beavis and Butthead routine. You’re just embarrassing yourselves.

And yeah, get a little editorial help once in a while. Curry obviously can’t handle it, and doesn’t care.

]]> By: brm http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/02/no-agenda-109-now-on-cage-match/comment-page-1/#comment-1548859 brm Sat, 04 Jul 2009 01:37:33 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52205#comment-1548859 Curry can be such a dumb ass. Doesn't he read anything (ex: the NVIC site?) Curry can be such a dumb ass. Doesn’t he read anything (ex: the NVIC site?)

]]> By: BGreenan http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/02/no-agenda-109-now-on-cage-match/comment-page-1/#comment-1548850 BGreenan Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:46:24 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52205#comment-1548850 A little more research guys before you trash a lady who is only trying to warn us. You owe her and her boobs an apology. A little more research guys before you trash a lady who is only trying to warn us. You owe her and her boobs an apology.

]]> By: deowll http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/02/no-agenda-109-now-on-cage-match/comment-page-1/#comment-1548796 deowll Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:46:35 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52205#comment-1548796 I think what the law in Mass. actually says is that in case of plague you can either be vaccinated or stay home and avoid all contact with other people so you don't spread the bleeping thing nor kill yourself or your family. The way things stand we are eventually going to get enough unvaccinated goof balls that they are going to find out why vaccinations are required and vaccines were developed. A few years back one of the church colleges of a bunch of such goof balls got hit and they had to close the thing down for a while and for some odd reason they vaccinated the students against the disease or at least the ones that weren't already sick. If my memory is right a couple of kids died. Some of the others were permanently impaired. I'm not sure about the connection if any between autism and vaccination. It is true that some people who get vaccinated as children have autism but it as common among those who don't. Bottom line getting vaccinated is risky. Getting the diseases for which vaccination are given is even more risky. Without vaccinations the diseases would be as common here as in the third world and people would be seriously unhappy about that. At least for the present swine flue seems to be just another seasonal flue. The major difference is that with this flavor of swine flue, if you start to run a fever with it, get your self some medical help because things are starting to red line. Mild cases don't seem to run a fever. Oh yeah, if Adam thinks Bush gave himself all that power he's more ignorant than I thought he was. Congress gave him all that power. The same people whose incompetence brought us the recession and whose incompetence is going to keep in going in the states long after much of the world recovers with the possible exception of the EU. The people running most of the EU seem to be even more incompetent but don't worry. We are catching up. Just look at California. I think what the law in Mass. actually says is that in case of plague you can either be vaccinated or stay home and avoid all contact with other people so you don’t spread the bleeping thing nor kill yourself or your family.

The way things stand we are eventually going to get enough unvaccinated goof balls that they are going to find out why vaccinations are required and vaccines were developed.

A few years back one of the church colleges of a bunch of such goof balls got hit and they had to close the thing down for a while and for some odd reason they vaccinated the students against the disease or at least the ones that weren’t already sick. If my memory is right a couple of kids died. Some of the others were permanently impaired.

I’m not sure about the connection if any between autism and vaccination. It is true that some people who get vaccinated as children have autism but it as common among those who don’t.

Bottom line getting vaccinated is risky. Getting the diseases for which vaccination are given is even more risky. Without vaccinations the diseases would be as common here as in the third world and people would be seriously unhappy about that.

At least for the present swine flue seems to be just another seasonal flue. The major difference is that with this flavor of swine flue, if you start to run a fever with it, get your self some medical help because things are starting to red line. Mild cases don’t seem to run a fever.

Oh yeah, if Adam thinks Bush gave himself all that power he’s more ignorant than I thought he was. Congress gave him all that power. The same people whose incompetence brought us the recession and whose incompetence is going to keep in going in the states long after much of the world recovers with the possible exception of the EU. The people running most of the EU seem to be even more incompetent but don’t worry. We are catching up. Just look at California.

]]> By: Mustardtits the blind harp blower http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/02/no-agenda-109-now-on-cage-match/comment-page-1/#comment-1548733 Mustardtits the blind harp blower Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:00:00 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52205#comment-1548733 Except for the slight factual oversight I thought it was a pretty good show. Very Alex Jonesish. I think you guys should tweet(or the equivalent) your talking points a few hours before the show and let the producers vet (is it vet?)the stories, It would work great ,I think. Except for the slight factual oversight I thought it was a pretty good show. Very Alex Jonesish.
I think you guys should tweet(or the equivalent) your talking points a few hours before the show and let the producers vet (is it vet?)the stories, It would work great ,I think.

]]> By: GotsTheLife http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/02/no-agenda-109-now-on-cage-match/comment-page-1/#comment-1548707 GotsTheLife Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:30:41 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52205#comment-1548707 I really enjoyed todays show. I really enjoyed todays show.

]]> By: mr. show http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/02/no-agenda-109-now-on-cage-match/comment-page-1/#comment-1548692 mr. show Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:53:21 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52205#comment-1548692 #5 If you think that is nonsensical, listen to this...the "Chuckle edition" of No Agenda. It's the audio equivalent of the cartoon "Garfield without Garfield". http://chuckleedition.mevio.com/ #5 If you think that is nonsensical, listen to this…the “Chuckle edition” of No Agenda. It’s the audio equivalent of the cartoon “Garfield without Garfield”.

http://chuckleedition.mevio.com/

]]> By: Farmer http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/02/no-agenda-109-now-on-cage-match/comment-page-1/#comment-1548684 Farmer Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:38:58 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52205#comment-1548684 Adam = Confused on this show (and probably looking for a way to make money out of scaring and confusing people) John = Just following along with Adam. Should be fun to see what happens next. Come back for the next show for more fun :) hehe Adam = Confused on this show (and probably looking for a way to make money out of scaring and confusing people)

John = Just following along with Adam.

Should be fun to see what happens next. Come back for the next show for more fun :) hehe

]]> By: John C Dvorak http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/02/no-agenda-109-now-on-cage-match/comment-page-1/#comment-1548666 John C Dvorak Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:35:37 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52205#comment-1548666 We discuss the anomaly on the Sunday show... We discuss the anomaly on the Sunday show…

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