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	<title>Comments on: Press Secretary Gibbs Grilled Over Phoney Baloney &#8220;Town Hall&#8221; Meeting</title>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 30 lop said,  &quot;Patrick, it’s impssible for it to be worse than the last one. Hitler would not be worse than the last one.&quot;

Naw, just start by creating even bigger deficits than Bush while at the same time continuing a stupid unwinnable war. 

Hmm, sounds like Obama is WELL on his way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 30 lop said,  &#8220;Patrick, it’s impssible for it to be worse than the last one. Hitler would not be worse than the last one.&#8221;</p>
<p>Naw, just start by creating even bigger deficits than Bush while at the same time continuing a stupid unwinnable war. </p>
<p>Hmm, sounds like Obama is WELL on his way.</p>
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		<title>By: lop</title>
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		<dc:creator>lop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick, it&#039;s impssible for it to be worse than the last one. Hitler would not be worse than the last one.

Ok, I take it back...if Obama decides to launch all the US ICBMs straight up and let them come down and nuke us 50 times over, it would be worse. Other than that. it cannot possibly be worse.

If people like you would join Obama in rebuilding the country, we&#039;d be well on our way. But if you keep throwing wrenches into the works by spreading cynicism and suspicion, it&#039;s not going to get better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, it&#8217;s impssible for it to be worse than the last one. Hitler would not be worse than the last one.</p>
<p>Ok, I take it back&#8230;if Obama decides to launch all the US ICBMs straight up and let them come down and nuke us 50 times over, it would be worse. Other than that. it cannot possibly be worse.</p>
<p>If people like you would join Obama in rebuilding the country, we&#8217;d be well on our way. But if you keep throwing wrenches into the works by spreading cynicism and suspicion, it&#8217;s not going to get better.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who actually expected this administration to be better than the last one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who actually expected this administration to be better than the last one?</p>
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		<title>By: Stopher2475</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stopher2475</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see their point to some extent but there&#039;s always going to be someone who&#039;s question doesn&#039;t get asked based on time. You wouldn&#039;t want one group monopolizing. Maybe they need some third like the college to select a set that makes sure everything gets touched on like in the debates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see their point to some extent but there&#8217;s always going to be someone who&#8217;s question doesn&#8217;t get asked based on time. You wouldn&#8217;t want one group monopolizing. Maybe they need some third like the college to select a set that makes sure everything gets touched on like in the debates.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helen Thomas &#039;Do you think the media is stupid?&#039;

Robert Gibbs &#039;Yes, since they made you their leader.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen Thomas &#8216;Do you think the media is stupid?&#8217;</p>
<p>Robert Gibbs &#8216;Yes, since they made you their leader.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
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		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is to much BULL SPIT going on in government.

A person from india asked me about the corruption in getting things done, in INDIA.
I told him it was the same here.
He inquired HOW that could be..
I told him, we tax it, license it, regulated it, INSPECT it and charge for every part of this.  Then make it LAW.  then add property tax.
He agreed that it was JUST as bad.

Look up Socrates.
those that know Who/what/when/where/how/why of the government, dont like the job.  So, we must contend with those that WANT the job and have less skills or have other agendas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is to much BULL SPIT going on in government.</p>
<p>A person from india asked me about the corruption in getting things done, in INDIA.<br />
I told him it was the same here.<br />
He inquired HOW that could be..<br />
I told him, we tax it, license it, regulated it, INSPECT it and charge for every part of this.  Then make it LAW.  then add property tax.<br />
He agreed that it was JUST as bad.</p>
<p>Look up Socrates.<br />
those that know Who/what/when/where/how/why of the government, dont like the job.  So, we must contend with those that WANT the job and have less skills or have other agendas.</p>
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		<title>By: done</title>
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		<dc:creator>done</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 07:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24, no thanks. Don&#039;t want it to get crowded. 

I&#039;ve spent a few weeks there and know several people who have relocated there in the last few years. Lower standard of living, but good safety and health care and a LOT more day-to-day freedom (many fewer lawyers) than the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24, no thanks. Don&#8217;t want it to get crowded. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve spent a few weeks there and know several people who have relocated there in the last few years. Lower standard of living, but good safety and health care and a LOT more day-to-day freedom (many fewer lawyers) than the US.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 06:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#23 Tell us which country and maybe we can tell you what you might find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#23 Tell us which country and maybe we can tell you what you might find.</p>
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		<title>By: done</title>
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		<dc:creator>done</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone with an ounce of objectivity, respect for the political center of America recognizes the Obama White House&#039;s stage-directing of the press and disdain for ordinary people as “aberrant.” 

More generally, I&#039;ve never seen such hatred in American politics...and while the Right has its bombthrowers, the Left seems to be almost entirely filled with spittle-flecked ranters. It&#039;s not even close. I don&#039;t know anyone on the left who has the slightest compunction about wearing an Obama pin to a job interview, or walking into a party filled with strangers saying &quot;Isn&#039;t it great to have a non-demonic government now?&quot; while conservatives know they can get fired or screamed at and shunned if anyone finds out they don&#039;t worship The One.

Most ordinary folks simply have given up trying to engage their neighbors on politics. Either they are also generally conservative (like most of the productive workers in this country), or they&#039;re going to start screaming that you&#039;re a fascist and try to get you shunned by the rest of the neighborhood.

I&#039;m moving to another country in August for a 2 year assignment...if I like it I&#039;m not coming back. You guys have the whole sandbox now, and we&#039;re no longer wanted, so enjoy. 

No whining if you&#039;re not in Paradise in 8 years...if Obama&#039;s really all that and a bag of chips, nothing can stop you now that Al Franken has joined the party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone with an ounce of objectivity, respect for the political center of America recognizes the Obama White House&#8217;s stage-directing of the press and disdain for ordinary people as “aberrant.” </p>
<p>More generally, I&#8217;ve never seen such hatred in American politics&#8230;and while the Right has its bombthrowers, the Left seems to be almost entirely filled with spittle-flecked ranters. It&#8217;s not even close. I don&#8217;t know anyone on the left who has the slightest compunction about wearing an Obama pin to a job interview, or walking into a party filled with strangers saying &#8220;Isn&#8217;t it great to have a non-demonic government now?&#8221; while conservatives know they can get fired or screamed at and shunned if anyone finds out they don&#8217;t worship The One.</p>
<p>Most ordinary folks simply have given up trying to engage their neighbors on politics. Either they are also generally conservative (like most of the productive workers in this country), or they&#8217;re going to start screaming that you&#8217;re a fascist and try to get you shunned by the rest of the neighborhood.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m moving to another country in August for a 2 year assignment&#8230;if I like it I&#8217;m not coming back. You guys have the whole sandbox now, and we&#8217;re no longer wanted, so enjoy. </p>
<p>No whining if you&#8217;re not in Paradise in 8 years&#8230;if Obama&#8217;s really all that and a bag of chips, nothing can stop you now that Al Franken has joined the party.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo, amused by spin meister shills</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo, amused by spin meister shills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21--do ill==why do Repuglican shill operatives characterize any opinion/comment they don&#039;t like as &quot;hate?&quot;

Why do YOU hate different opinions/comments?  Do you have no other colors on your political palette?  

&quot;You are either on my spam issuing alert list or hate everything we stand for.&quot;  

Anyone with an ounce of objectivity, respect for the political center of America recognizes Palin as &quot;aberrant.&quot;  Shill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21&#8211;do ill==why do Repuglican shill operatives characterize any opinion/comment they don&#8217;t like as &#8220;hate?&#8221;</p>
<p>Why do YOU hate different opinions/comments?  Do you have no other colors on your political palette?  </p>
<p>&#8220;You are either on my spam issuing alert list or hate everything we stand for.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Anyone with an ounce of objectivity, respect for the political center of America recognizes Palin as &#8220;aberrant.&#8221;  Shill.</p>
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		<title>By: deowll</title>
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		<dc:creator>deowll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dallas, why do you hate Palin so much? Did you abort one of your kids or something? Just asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dallas, why do you hate Palin so much? Did you abort one of your kids or something? Just asking.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo, not watching tv for news</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo, not watching tv for news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3--soundwash==well done.  One of your better missives, or moreso glad to see you post again.  Also enjoy seeing Pedro post again although I disagree.  C&#039;mon--families values politician&#039;s daughter being a whore.  Thats funny no matter who is at issue.

Back to soundwash.  No.  The MSM (aka stenography pool) is not only aware of what they do, they do it consciously and willingly==it is in fact their job.  Only issue is finding that line being confrontational enough to get your own one hour talk show before being disinvited to the press room.

The notion that other people don&#039;t know what they are doing just because what they are doing is entirely corrupt defines American Naivety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3&#8211;soundwash==well done.  One of your better missives, or moreso glad to see you post again.  Also enjoy seeing Pedro post again although I disagree.  C&#8217;mon&#8211;families values politician&#8217;s daughter being a whore.  Thats funny no matter who is at issue.</p>
<p>Back to soundwash.  No.  The MSM (aka stenography pool) is not only aware of what they do, they do it consciously and willingly==it is in fact their job.  Only issue is finding that line being confrontational enough to get your own one hour talk show before being disinvited to the press room.</p>
<p>The notion that other people don&#8217;t know what they are doing just because what they are doing is entirely corrupt defines American Naivety.</p>
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		<title>By: Faxon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faxon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course these Town Hall meetings are bullshit. We all know that. Where is Joe the Plumber? Nowhere to be seen at these things... Just suck up liberal shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course these Town Hall meetings are bullshit. We all know that. Where is Joe the Plumber? Nowhere to be seen at these things&#8230; Just suck up liberal shit.</p>
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		<title>By: SparkyOne</title>
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		<dc:creator>SparkyOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bamm Bamm administration best get Helen back on her meds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bamm Bamm administration best get Helen back on her meds.</p>
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		<title>By: McCullough</title>
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		<dc:creator>McCullough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16. Too bad Billy Mays is gone, he would have made a great press secretary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16. Too bad Billy Mays is gone, he would have made a great press secretary.</p>
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