Comments on: Steve McNair found dead in Nashville http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/04/steve-mcnair-found-dead-in-nashville/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:49:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ridin' the short bus http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/04/steve-mcnair-found-dead-in-nashville/comment-page-2/#comment-1549728 ridin' the short bus Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:14:57 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52379#comment-1549728 The Gun debate will Never End... In the UK it is almost impossible to be the owner of a Gun these days after what happened in Scotland 10 or more years ago, they took 'em away!!! That would not be such a bad thing in America either. I used to own several hand guns, several Rifles and a few shotsguns..was raised on a farm and I admit, sure it feels good in your hand amaybe a bit manly to hold and fire a gun...but after re-evaluating what matters to me and after having children I have decided to be rid of all the guns and I have done so.. I do believe the Framers of the US Constitutuion and Bill of Rights would be turining in their grave today, if they were able to see what our country has turned into... we peaked in 1953 (or about) and have been going down hill ever since.. just look we are the 114th hapiest nation on earth... WAKE UP SHEEPLE!! No one even wants ro immigrate to the US any more... Its all canada and Austrailia or Europe!!! The Gun debate will Never End… In the UK it is almost impossible to be the owner of a Gun these days after what happened in Scotland 10 or more years ago, they took ‘em away!!! That would not be such a bad thing in America either. I used to own several hand guns, several Rifles and a few shotsguns..was raised on a farm and I admit, sure it feels good in your hand amaybe a bit manly to hold and fire a gun…but after re-evaluating what matters to me and after having children I have decided to be rid of all the guns and I have done so.. I do believe the Framers of the US Constitutuion and Bill of Rights would be turining in their grave today, if they were able to see what our country has turned into… we peaked in 1953 (or about) and have been going down hill ever since.. just look we are the 114th hapiest nation on earth… WAKE UP SHEEPLE!! No one even wants ro immigrate to the US any more… Its all canada and Austrailia or Europe!!!

]]> By: Mr. Fusion http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/04/steve-mcnair-found-dead-in-nashville/comment-page-2/#comment-1549608 Mr. Fusion Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:30:11 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52379#comment-1549608 Either Alphie has a twin or is now posting under a new name. And yes, I am also very interested in how many people have been killed with bicycles, gas stoves, knives, and what have you, compared to guns. I would also like to know the number of people killed compared to the number of people saved by handguns. The last time I looked, there were a few hundred self defense killings compared to 16,000 or something murdered by guns. No, I don't plan on scouring the CDC or FBI sites to find those numbers again. Either Alphie has a twin or is now posting under a new name.

And yes, I am also very interested in how many people have been killed with bicycles, gas stoves, knives, and what have you, compared to guns.

I would also like to know the number of people killed compared to the number of people saved by handguns.

The last time I looked, there were a few hundred self defense killings compared to 16,000 or something murdered by guns. No, I don’t plan on scouring the CDC or FBI sites to find those numbers again.

]]> By: Chuck Zero http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/04/steve-mcnair-found-dead-in-nashville/comment-page-2/#comment-1549584 Chuck Zero Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:20:23 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52379#comment-1549584 Ahhh, the predictable gun debate. McNair had a handgun permit. There are pretty good odds that this was just a fight that turned into a murder / suicide because there was a gun handy. Here's the thing. Guns turn disagreements and fights into murders. They cost people their lives. Guns also save lives and property. From the perspective of someone who lives in New Orleans, I have no doubt that there are more lives lost than saved. Ahhh, the predictable gun debate. McNair had a handgun permit. There are pretty good odds that this was just a fight that turned into a murder / suicide because there was a gun handy.

Here’s the thing. Guns turn disagreements and fights into murders. They cost people their lives. Guns also save lives and property. From the perspective of someone who lives in New Orleans, I have no doubt that there are more lives lost than saved.

]]> By: soundwash http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/04/steve-mcnair-found-dead-in-nashville/comment-page-2/#comment-1549554 soundwash Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:16:11 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52379#comment-1549554 -not to worry, given the current trend, i'd bet a dollar that there will be at least 5 more celebrity types to die before summers end for you all to pick at. -his death is irrelevant. a distraction. get over it find something that might actually effect your existence to ponder. lord knows there is plenty to choose from. -s -not to worry, given the current trend, i’d bet a dollar that there will be at least 5 more celebrity types to die before summers end for you all to pick at.

-his death is irrelevant. a distraction. get over it find something that might actually effect your existence to ponder.

lord knows there is plenty
to choose from.

-s

]]> By: Cap'nKangaroo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/04/steve-mcnair-found-dead-in-nashville/comment-page-2/#comment-1549442 Cap'nKangaroo Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:58:24 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52379#comment-1549442 #24 Where did a liberal, or anyone, say it was the gun's fault? #24 Where did a liberal, or anyone, say it was the gun’s fault?

]]> By: contempt http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/04/steve-mcnair-found-dead-in-nashville/comment-page-2/#comment-1549428 contempt Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:55:21 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52379#comment-1549428 What is it with liberals that it's always the gun's fault? Could it be what killed McNair is that he decided to run around on his wife? I'm sure he would still be walking around if he had been home watching Sports Center or even Scooby Doo - with his wife. What is it with liberals that it’s always the gun’s fault?

Could it be what killed McNair is that he decided to run around on his wife? I’m sure he would still be walking around if he had been home watching Sports Center or even Scooby Doo – with his wife.

]]> By: Cap'nKangaroo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/04/steve-mcnair-found-dead-in-nashville/comment-page-2/#comment-1549378 Cap'nKangaroo Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:56:18 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52379#comment-1549378 #15 Perhaps you did not understand the point I was making. You started the post asking did OJ use a gun to murder two people. Then you threw in the other crap about bicycles, swimming pools, electricity, cars, and gas appliances killing people. Yes, these things may kill you accidentally but their use as a means of murder are a tiny fraction of the number of murders committed using a handgun. #15 Perhaps you did not understand the point I was making. You started the post asking did OJ use a gun to murder two people. Then you threw in the other crap about bicycles, swimming pools, electricity, cars, and gas appliances killing people. Yes, these things may kill you accidentally but their use as a means of murder are a tiny fraction of the number of murders committed using a handgun.

]]> By: John Paradox http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/04/steve-mcnair-found-dead-in-nashville/comment-page-2/#comment-1549339 John Paradox Sun, 05 Jul 2009 07:49:07 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52379#comment-1549339 <i>LAW ABIDING citizens murder people? </i> The error here is pretty obvious J/P=? LAW ABIDING citizens murder people?

The error here is pretty obvious

J/P=?

]]> By: King of Pap http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/04/steve-mcnair-found-dead-in-nashville/comment-page-2/#comment-1549300 King of Pap Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:43:13 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52379#comment-1549300 The woman was DUI Thursday night, in an "Escalade" (of course), registered to both McNair and HER. I guess he didn't spend a whole bunch of time with his old lady. Oops. Murder/Suicide. Pop goes the weasel. The woman was DUI Thursday night, in an “Escalade” (of course), registered to both McNair and HER. I guess he didn’t spend a whole bunch of time with his old lady. Oops. Murder/Suicide. Pop goes the weasel.

]]> By: Delphi http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/04/steve-mcnair-found-dead-in-nashville/comment-page-1/#comment-1549298 Delphi Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:34:06 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52379#comment-1549298 To clarify: The Bill of Rights does not GRANT rights. It affirms them. The rights EXIST whether or not they were codified into the Constitution. The Framers were much, much wiser than the yokels running around now. The Bill of Rights was not some afterthought. It was a definition of the rights of the people of the newly formed United States of America. England has no 1st Amendment. Maybe some of you folks who love posting here should go live there, where there are plenty of "nice people". To clarify:
The Bill of Rights does not GRANT rights. It affirms them. The rights EXIST whether or not they were codified into the Constitution. The Framers were much, much wiser than the yokels running around now. The Bill of Rights was not some afterthought. It was a definition of the rights of the people of the newly formed United States of America. England has no 1st Amendment. Maybe some of you folks who love posting here should go live there, where there are plenty of “nice people”.

]]> By: Dribbleglass http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/04/steve-mcnair-found-dead-in-nashville/comment-page-1/#comment-1549296 Dribbleglass Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:28:11 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52379#comment-1549296 I agree. Murder suicide. No hood leaves the gun at the scene of the crime. They are valuable. I agree. Murder suicide. No hood leaves the gun at the scene of the crime. They are valuable.

]]> By: Scattergun http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/04/steve-mcnair-found-dead-in-nashville/comment-page-1/#comment-1549295 Scattergun Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:27:17 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52379#comment-1549295 Back to the topic: Obviously, this was a murder/suicide. The woman was shot once in the head, and the gun was at the scene. She was described as "a friend". Some friend. Sahel Kazemi. Shouldn't have pissed her off. Back to the topic:

Obviously, this was a murder/suicide. The woman was shot once in the head, and the gun was at the scene. She was described as “a friend”. Some friend. Sahel Kazemi. Shouldn’t have pissed her off.

]]> By: Dufus http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/04/steve-mcnair-found-dead-in-nashville/comment-page-1/#comment-1549291 Dufus Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:14:39 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52379#comment-1549291 #13 And, if you're not a lucky US citizen, I am afraid our wonderful Second Amendment does not apply to you. So quit worrying about it, and go back to your own country. You have no conception of why there IS a Second Amendment, like others on this blog. #13
And, if you’re not a lucky US citizen, I am afraid our wonderful Second Amendment does not apply to you. So quit worrying about it, and go back to your own country. You have no conception of why there IS a Second Amendment, like others on this blog.

]]> By: Dufus http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/04/steve-mcnair-found-dead-in-nashville/comment-page-1/#comment-1549290 Dufus Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:11:56 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52379#comment-1549290 #13- "I've met many nice people in the US over the years and they all hate guns." Well, I've met many nice people in the US who don't hate guns. Gee. How can that be? #13- “I’ve met many nice people in the US over the years and they all hate guns.”

Well,

I’ve met many nice people in the US who don’t hate guns. Gee. How can that be?

]]> By: Gilfoil http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/04/steve-mcnair-found-dead-in-nashville/comment-page-1/#comment-1549288 Gilfoil Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:59:51 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=52379#comment-1549288 #12. You don't understand the argument. Death is an acceptable risk we all condone and with which we have no problem, and we utilize those things. Same with firearms. Misuse by hoodlums is an acceptable risk for the decent majority to be able to defend themselves if they choose to. But anti gun zealots will never allow others to make up their own mind and that is the problem. Yeah, I know all about how my owning a gun makes me a bad person. Right. Just like Teddy Roosevelt was evil. Even that jerk John Kerry borrowed somebody's shotgun to prove he was a real man and went hunting for one day. #12. You don’t understand the argument. Death is an acceptable risk we all condone and with which we have no problem, and we utilize those things. Same with firearms. Misuse by hoodlums is an acceptable risk for the decent majority to be able to defend themselves if they choose to. But anti gun zealots will never allow others to make up their own mind and that is the problem. Yeah, I know all about how my owning a gun makes me a bad person. Right. Just like Teddy Roosevelt was evil. Even that jerk John Kerry borrowed somebody’s shotgun to prove he was a real man and went hunting for one day.

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