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	<title>Comments on: Is The Shroud Of Turin Really A Photo Of Leonardo Da Vinci?</title>
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		<title>By: soundwash</title>
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		<dc:creator>soundwash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8. sargasso said,  

&quot;visit Italy. It’ll all make sense&quot;

I have..

I spent 2 months in &#039;85 driving my blazer
from Le Havre, France, down through Italy and hopped a 1.5 day ferry ride to Greece on up to 
Mani to visit family.

had many opportunities to see why the madness of religion has prevailed. the shear size and beauty (and numbers) of religious structures of all sorts must have awestruck the plebes of the day that were lucky enough to lay eyes on them.

nonetheless, i still see religion, especially The Church, as the biggest money scandal and most harmful thought/concept to ever infect the minds of men &amp; women alike.

never mind the control aspect of it.

even more insulting to humanity is that 
people are fooled by it today, more than 
ever

if one needs to follow an &quot;enlightened path&quot;
i think (in my somewhat uneducated view) the American Indians are the only humans on the planet that got spirituality right. 

so i still affirm my original statement:

why do people still obsess over this &lt;em&gt;nonsense?&lt;/em&gt;

-s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8. sargasso said,  </p>
<p>&#8220;visit Italy. It’ll all make sense&#8221;</p>
<p>I have..</p>
<p>I spent 2 months in &#8216;85 driving my blazer<br />
from Le Havre, France, down through Italy and hopped a 1.5 day ferry ride to Greece on up to<br />
Mani to visit family.</p>
<p>had many opportunities to see why the madness of religion has prevailed. the shear size and beauty (and numbers) of religious structures of all sorts must have awestruck the plebes of the day that were lucky enough to lay eyes on them.</p>
<p>nonetheless, i still see religion, especially The Church, as the biggest money scandal and most harmful thought/concept to ever infect the minds of men &amp; women alike.</p>
<p>never mind the control aspect of it.</p>
<p>even more insulting to humanity is that<br />
people are fooled by it today, more than<br />
ever</p>
<p>if one needs to follow an &#8220;enlightened path&#8221;<br />
i think (in my somewhat uneducated view) the American Indians are the only humans on the planet that got spirituality right. </p>
<p>so i still affirm my original statement:</p>
<p>why do people still obsess over this <em>nonsense?</em></p>
<p>-s</p>
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		<title>By: Improbus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Improbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@peter_m

Where is god today?  The same place he has always been ... in the believers head.  I would rather store something more useful in that head space ... like recipes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@peter_m</p>
<p>Where is god today?  The same place he has always been &#8230; in the believers head.  I would rather store something more useful in that head space &#8230; like recipes.</p>
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		<title>By: jbellies</title>
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		<dc:creator>jbellies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The program in the UK was Revealed, Season 2, Episode 2, and it has been posted on Usenet (the entity, not the dotcom).  The episode title is &quot;Da Vinci Shroud&quot;. 

Because the front and the back are different heights, and the head is too large for the body, they say that the technique involved the use of a camera obscura over several days.  fwiw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The program in the UK was Revealed, Season 2, Episode 2, and it has been posted on Usenet (the entity, not the dotcom).  The episode title is &#8220;Da Vinci Shroud&#8221;. </p>
<p>Because the front and the back are different heights, and the head is too large for the body, they say that the technique involved the use of a camera obscura over several days.  fwiw.</p>
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		<title>By: peter_m</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter_m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if it was authentic... Look around you, look at the world news and ask yourself, where is god today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if it was authentic&#8230; Look around you, look at the world news and ask yourself, where is god today?</p>
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		<title>By: cheese</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I saw Leonardo Da Vinci on a burned piece of toast the other day...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I saw Leonardo Da Vinci on a burned piece of toast the other day&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Winston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on, I painted this thing with a can of gray Krylon primer while I was Turin Italy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on, I painted this thing with a can of gray Krylon primer while I was Turin Italy.</p>
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		<title>By: Eideard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eideard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>K B and I agree the subject of the shroud is Bobby Fischer:

&lt;img width=&quot;220&quot; src=&quot;http://thepotvinreport.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/bobby-fischer.jpg? alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K B and I agree the subject of the shroud is Bobby Fischer:</p>
<p><img width="220" src="http://thepotvinreport.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/bobby-fischer.jpg? alt="" /></p>
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		<title>By: LDA</title>
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		<dc:creator>LDA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 06:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With no evidence whatsoever (except looking at it) I always thought it was produced by the great Leonardo di ser Piero da Vinci as a &#039;relic&#039; for the Vatican and that it was a self portrait (Renaissance sense of humour).

I am only slightly more convinced by this story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With no evidence whatsoever (except looking at it) I always thought it was produced by the great Leonardo di ser Piero da Vinci as a &#8216;relic&#8217; for the Vatican and that it was a self portrait (Renaissance sense of humour).</p>
<p>I am only slightly more convinced by this story.</p>
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		<title>By: t0llyb0ng</title>
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		<dc:creator>t0llyb0ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guy on the right looks vaguely like a non-crazified Charlie Manson.

Wasn&#039;t the Mona Lisa supposed to have portrayed what &#039;Nardo would have looked like as a woman?  Or the sister he never had?  Didn&#039;t hear any mention of that in the story &amp; am somewhat disappointed.  Time to superimpose the shroud image onto the Mona Lisa &amp; see what comparison ye come up with---eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guy on the right looks vaguely like a non-crazified Charlie Manson.</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t the Mona Lisa supposed to have portrayed what &#8216;Nardo would have looked like as a woman?  Or the sister he never had?  Didn&#8217;t hear any mention of that in the story &amp; am somewhat disappointed.  Time to superimpose the shroud image onto the Mona Lisa &amp; see what comparison ye come up with&#8212;eh?</p>
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		<title>By: King of Pap</title>
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		<dc:creator>King of Pap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Tom Hanks did it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Tom Hanks did it.</p>
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		<title>By: JimR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probeee, why are you trying to silence discussions on the validity of religion? It&#039;s a topic of interest for many... like any other. As with the Creationist Museum, if it offends you... don&#039;t look. Perhaps you are frightened from the overwhelming evidence that the god of the Bible is fictitious and you don&#039;t want to hear any more...la,la,la,la,la,la,la?

Keep them coming Uncle Dave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probeee, why are you trying to silence discussions on the validity of religion? It&#8217;s a topic of interest for many&#8230; like any other. As with the Creationist Museum, if it offends you&#8230; don&#8217;t look. Perhaps you are frightened from the overwhelming evidence that the god of the Bible is fictitious and you don&#8217;t want to hear any more&#8230;la,la,la,la,la,la,la?</p>
<p>Keep them coming Uncle Dave.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#4 Don&#039;t mix Mr. Laporte in all this. Although, coming from you, you must have mixed him with Steve Jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#4 Don&#8217;t mix Mr. Laporte in all this. Although, coming from you, you must have mixed him with Steve Jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: sargasso</title>
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		<dc:creator>sargasso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8. visit Italy. It&#039;ll all make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8. visit Italy. It&#8217;ll all make sense.</p>
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		<title>By: sirfelix</title>
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		<dc:creator>sirfelix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old news. New in UK but this info has already aired on either PBS or History Channel many month ago.
Its a unique theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old news. New in UK but this info has already aired on either PBS or History Channel many month ago.<br />
Its a unique theory.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, wasn&#039;t the shroud discovered in the 14th century?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, wasn&#8217;t the shroud discovered in the 14th century?</p>
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