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		<title>By: Randy Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/06/low-budget-airline-to-offer-standing-room-only-transport/comment-page-4/#comment-1645700</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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           My name is Randy Jackson and please quote me the cost for each of the BAR STOOLS below</p>
<p>144 Tubular Wrought Iron 26in backless round seat swivel bar stool Teena</p>
<p>Please i will like to know the cost for each of that and also let me know if you do accept credit card as a form of payment.Kindly get back to me with any similar brand if my request is not available.Your prompt reply will be highly appreciated</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/06/low-budget-airline-to-offer-standing-room-only-transport/comment-page-4/#comment-1623906</link>
		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real issue is not how FAT someone is or what they weigh, the real issue here is too many seats on airplanes.   I&#039;ve seen very small children that looked squashed in coach.  They&#039;re should be laws in regards to seat sizes.   Have you ever noticed how comfortable the seats are at the airports?  Why shouldn&#039;t seats be that comfortable on board the planes?  If you put airplane size seats in airport waiting rooms, people would find that odd, but not on the planes themselves?  Just make the seats larger, more leg room.  Case solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real issue is not how FAT someone is or what they weigh, the real issue here is too many seats on airplanes.   I&#8217;ve seen very small children that looked squashed in coach.  They&#8217;re should be laws in regards to seat sizes.   Have you ever noticed how comfortable the seats are at the airports?  Why shouldn&#8217;t seats be that comfortable on board the planes?  If you put airplane size seats in airport waiting rooms, people would find that odd, but not on the planes themselves?  Just make the seats larger, more leg room.  Case solved.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/06/low-budget-airline-to-offer-standing-room-only-transport/comment-page-4/#comment-1562681</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would think that in a crash this would be much better. having your legs take an impact would be far better than your back. But most people are way too fat to stand for any length of time. It seems logical that plane tickets should be based on your weight plus the weight of your baggage. everyone gets like 400lbs total or some other arbitrary amount any more or less you pay for or get back. It would be easy to do too, just walk across a scale on your way in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think that in a crash this would be much better. having your legs take an impact would be far better than your back. But most people are way too fat to stand for any length of time. It seems logical that plane tickets should be based on your weight plus the weight of your baggage. everyone gets like 400lbs total or some other arbitrary amount any more or less you pay for or get back. It would be easy to do too, just walk across a scale on your way in.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/06/low-budget-airline-to-offer-standing-room-only-transport/comment-page-3/#comment-1550713</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 58 daav0 said, &quot;But, in general, the rudest and most thoughtless people in the world are us citizens of the USA. We need an alternative to air travel. Rail Travel works so well in the rest of the world&quot;

Yes!  NY to LA.  Same as going Moscow to Madrid.  Great way to do business travel.  Or, S.F. to Denver = ~1200 miles on the road + two major mountain ranges... You can&#039;t take rail between most places on this planet, if time has ANY meaning to you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 58 daav0 said, &#8220;But, in general, the rudest and most thoughtless people in the world are us citizens of the USA. We need an alternative to air travel. Rail Travel works so well in the rest of the world&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes!  NY to LA.  Same as going Moscow to Madrid.  Great way to do business travel.  Or, S.F. to Denver = ~1200 miles on the road + two major mountain ranges&#8230; You can&#8217;t take rail between most places on this planet, if time has ANY meaning to you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JimD</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/06/low-budget-airline-to-offer-standing-room-only-transport/comment-page-3/#comment-1550414</link>
		<dc:creator>JimD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuff &#039;em in like SADINES, and KILL MORE WITH EACH CRASH !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuff &#8216;em in like SADINES, and KILL MORE WITH EACH CRASH !!!</p>
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		<title>By: daav0</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/06/low-budget-airline-to-offer-standing-room-only-transport/comment-page-3/#comment-1550292</link>
		<dc:creator>daav0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m actually fat and fly a LOT.  I only fly business class or better, or, when forced to fly coach I buy two seats. We live in a world where it is honorable to be tall, and shameful to be fat, so tall people complain but fat people have the worst of it.

Why is the next class of ticket eight or twelve times as much money, and only 3&quot; wider?
Why do some airlines use the same size seat in business class, and charge four times as much money? (this is you, KLM and British Air)
Southwest actually requires me to buy two seats (which I don&#039;t mind at all! in return I get to board first to make sure there are still two adjacent seats available)

The worst is that American Airlines has switched all of it&#039;s one hour flights and most of it&#039;s two hour flights to the Embraer commuter jets, and there is just no way to fit my body into that jet in any way. (I tried once, and got put off the jet for not fitting in the seat)

My company doesn&#039;t allow me to expense the upgrades etc., so that comes out of my own pocket---it&#039;s about twenty five thousand per year. (I use miles and coupons and every dodge there is, but it&#039;s still ten grand round trip to australia) 

Some airlines will not even let you book an empty seat next to you, or will let you book it and then take it back from you and reassign it to sell it twice. (this is you, Malev)

But, in general, the rudest and most thoughtless people in the world are us citizens of the USA.  We need an alternative to air travel.  Rail Travel works so well in the rest of the world (and is always better seating for everyone)

Think about this: Budapest to Prague is a half hour flight, and a three hour train ride. Which method gets you to your actual appointment or hotel room faster?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m actually fat and fly a LOT.  I only fly business class or better, or, when forced to fly coach I buy two seats. We live in a world where it is honorable to be tall, and shameful to be fat, so tall people complain but fat people have the worst of it.</p>
<p>Why is the next class of ticket eight or twelve times as much money, and only 3&#8243; wider?<br />
Why do some airlines use the same size seat in business class, and charge four times as much money? (this is you, KLM and British Air)<br />
Southwest actually requires me to buy two seats (which I don&#8217;t mind at all! in return I get to board first to make sure there are still two adjacent seats available)</p>
<p>The worst is that American Airlines has switched all of it&#8217;s one hour flights and most of it&#8217;s two hour flights to the Embraer commuter jets, and there is just no way to fit my body into that jet in any way. (I tried once, and got put off the jet for not fitting in the seat)</p>
<p>My company doesn&#8217;t allow me to expense the upgrades etc., so that comes out of my own pocket&#8212;it&#8217;s about twenty five thousand per year. (I use miles and coupons and every dodge there is, but it&#8217;s still ten grand round trip to australia) </p>
<p>Some airlines will not even let you book an empty seat next to you, or will let you book it and then take it back from you and reassign it to sell it twice. (this is you, Malev)</p>
<p>But, in general, the rudest and most thoughtless people in the world are us citizens of the USA.  We need an alternative to air travel.  Rail Travel works so well in the rest of the world (and is always better seating for everyone)</p>
<p>Think about this: Budapest to Prague is a half hour flight, and a three hour train ride. Which method gets you to your actual appointment or hotel room faster?</p>
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		<title>By: audion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/06/low-budget-airline-to-offer-standing-room-only-transport/comment-page-3/#comment-1550219</link>
		<dc:creator>audion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand the realities of budgets, etc., but so much of what the airlines do seems so needlessly punitive.

It is like they f&#039;ing resent you for using their service at all.

I&#039;m surprised that the diagram showing the standing room only doesn&#039;t include large steel spikes for holding the chattel, um, passengers, in place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand the realities of budgets, etc., but so much of what the airlines do seems so needlessly punitive.</p>
<p>It is like they f&#8217;ing resent you for using their service at all.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised that the diagram showing the standing room only doesn&#8217;t include large steel spikes for holding the chattel, um, passengers, in place.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/06/low-budget-airline-to-offer-standing-room-only-transport/comment-page-3/#comment-1550201</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jccalhoun, why not have an overhead bin that the seat attaches to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jccalhoun, why not have an overhead bin that the seat attaches to?</p>
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		<title>By: tcc3</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/06/low-budget-airline-to-offer-standing-room-only-transport/comment-page-3/#comment-1550176</link>
		<dc:creator>tcc3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>52 - AGFUN

I read once (I think at halfbakery.com) about an idea for a ninja airline. The night before your flight a ninja creeps into your room and drugs you. When you wake up you and your luggage are at your destination. no fuss, no muss.</description>
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<p>I read once (I think at halfbakery.com) about an idea for a ninja airline. The night before your flight a ninja creeps into your room and drugs you. When you wake up you and your luggage are at your destination. no fuss, no muss.</p>
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		<title>By: Norman Speight</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/06/low-budget-airline-to-offer-standing-room-only-transport/comment-page-3/#comment-1550168</link>
		<dc:creator>Norman Speight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Posted by McCullough??&quot;
I sent you this (to JCD) several days ago.  Don&#039;t you read the stuff I send?

O&#039;Leary is determined to leave a legacy of hatred behind him when he eventually leaves this business. Pity the poor bugger who follows him into the nest of hatred he&#039;s spent years and years generating.
Of course, he is worth about £200 million, so, in the way of things he couldn&#039;t give a shit.
He&#039;shated more in Ireland than anywhere else judging by the conversations I&#039;ve had from those he has taken money off - some under highly questionable circumstances - me included.Irish law (it&#039;s where the business is registered) is highly lax for people who behave like him.  Read the Irish press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Posted by McCullough??&#8221;<br />
I sent you this (to JCD) several days ago.  Don&#8217;t you read the stuff I send?</p>
<p>O&#8217;Leary is determined to leave a legacy of hatred behind him when he eventually leaves this business. Pity the poor bugger who follows him into the nest of hatred he&#8217;s spent years and years generating.<br />
Of course, he is worth about £200 million, so, in the way of things he couldn&#8217;t give a shit.<br />
He&#8217;shated more in Ireland than anywhere else judging by the conversations I&#8217;ve had from those he has taken money off &#8211; some under highly questionable circumstances &#8211; me included.Irish law (it&#8217;s where the business is registered) is highly lax for people who behave like him.  Read the Irish press.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/06/low-budget-airline-to-offer-standing-room-only-transport/comment-page-3/#comment-1550151</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 52 AGuyFromUpNorth said,  &quot;Also, they should use weight as a way of determining the cost of the ticket.&quot;

I agree but if that were to happen, liberal nut jobs like the American Communist Liberal Union would scream like stuck pigs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 52 AGuyFromUpNorth said,  &#8220;Also, they should use weight as a way of determining the cost of the ticket.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree but if that were to happen, liberal nut jobs like the American Communist Liberal Union would scream like stuck pigs.</p>
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		<title>By: AGuyFromUpNorth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AGuyFromUpNorth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think the best way to haul people is to find a safe method of putting people to sleep and putting them into a casket-like shipping container that has two compartment for the luggage.  Then people can just be shipped/flown to their destinations.  Once they arrive, a reading of the barcode of the casket will initiate a wake up sequence.  People will arrive at their destinations rested and refreshed plus it will save money on flight attendants, food, etc.  Also, they should use weight as a way of determining the cost of the ticket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think the best way to haul people is to find a safe method of putting people to sleep and putting them into a casket-like shipping container that has two compartment for the luggage.  Then people can just be shipped/flown to their destinations.  Once they arrive, a reading of the barcode of the casket will initiate a wake up sequence.  People will arrive at their destinations rested and refreshed plus it will save money on flight attendants, food, etc.  Also, they should use weight as a way of determining the cost of the ticket.</p>
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/06/low-budget-airline-to-offer-standing-room-only-transport/comment-page-3/#comment-1550138</link>
		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many times has this story appeared on DU in the last 12 months????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many times has this story appeared on DU in the last 12 months????</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/06/low-budget-airline-to-offer-standing-room-only-transport/comment-page-3/#comment-1550126</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it works, good for them.  Unless, you live in a socialist/communist country, you can choose what you want to purchase, or not purchase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it works, good for them.  Unless, you live in a socialist/communist country, you can choose what you want to purchase, or not purchase.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a short run flight this actually sounds like a good idea to me.  I&#039;m tall and my knees end up in severe pain after sitting with my knees bent unable to move around at all.  Standing up is actually far more comfortable.  I wouldn&#039;t want to ride SRO on a long domestic or international flight but for &quot;commuter&quot; flights I think it could work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a short run flight this actually sounds like a good idea to me.  I&#8217;m tall and my knees end up in severe pain after sitting with my knees bent unable to move around at all.  Standing up is actually far more comfortable.  I wouldn&#8217;t want to ride SRO on a long domestic or international flight but for &#8220;commuter&#8221; flights I think it could work.</p>
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