Comments on: CIA chose to lie to Congress starting in 2001

By: MikeN

MikeN — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:22:36 +0000

So was that quail hunting a test-run, or a successful operation that was covered up?

By: Mr. Fusion

Mr. Fusion — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:38:04 +0000

Well, it’s out now. The unknown program was an assassination squad, directly led by Vice-President Cheney that tried to assassinate foreign dignitaries. It seems to be his private army.

No wonder the CIA kept this secret and Congress is upset they weren’t told.

The bigger question is will we ever really know the truth?

By: Patrick

Patrick — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:13:20 +0000

# 48 MikeN said, “You know, I guess you guys are right. This means that Nancy Pelosi was right. The CIA called a briefing to tell her about a torture method they weren’t using, you bercha.”

This is why she quashed the proposed investigation of the CIA “lying” to her.

By: Mr. Fusion

Mr. Fusion — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:54:29 +0000

#46, Thomas,

I see your point but have grave difficulties with it. Closed hearing don’t tell us, the people, much. There will still be those who will wail and whine about the closed door aspect, guilty politicians, etc.

Don’t get me wrong. I would prefer this to nothing. I’m only commenting on the actualities.

I think the members of the Intelligence Committees know enough that THEY don’t think a deep investigation will tell them much. The problem is how do you control such a large agency that must remain secret?

By: Comacho for President

Comacho for President — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:48:11 +0000

It is okay to lie to congress – It is authorized by some law passed by Congress or order signed by Clinton. Forgot the name.

By: MikeN

MikeN — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:50:18 +0000

You know, I guess you guys are right. This means that Nancy Pelosi was right. The CIA called a briefing to tell her about a torture method they weren’t using, you bercha.

By: Buzz

Buzz — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:58:41 +0000

It’s a LIE! All that stuff about lying to Congress is, itself, a lie. They’re just lying to promote support for the Obama Administration by having appeared to have lied about things in the Bush Administration in such a way that when Pelosi lied about not having been informed of the waterboarding, the CIA said …yeah, that’s the ticket! We were lying all along.

Now they really are lying. But that just goes to show you, they’re liars.

By: Thomas

Thomas — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:21:50 +0000

#45
Au contraire. That would only prevent a public investigation. According to you and others in this thread, Congress can be trusted, so there shouldn’t be any problem to a full closed door Congressional investigation should there?

By: Mr. Fusion

Mr. Fusion — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:50:55 +0000

#36, Cow-Patty,

If the House decided to hold hearings on Pelosi’s claim, you wouldn’t know about it. Simply because there are too many secrets that simply CAN NOT be told.

That the right wing nuts howling for Pelosi’s head fail to see that is not without precedent. Even the Republican Ranking member of the Intelligence Committee claimed last year the CIA was not being totally forthcoming.

But then all you care about is scoring political points, and you ain’t doing too well.

By: Greg Allen

Greg Allen — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:22:34 +0000

>> allstar said, on July 9th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
>> What better people to lie to than congress? The way they leak sensitive information the CIA might as well brief the New York Times and cut out the middle man.

You mean the way the Bush Whitehouse committed treason by leaking directly to the New York Times the identity of an active CIA agent because her husband opposed their bogus war?

By: Greg Allen

Greg Allen — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:20:16 +0000

>> Mr. Fusion said, on July 9th, 2009 at 10:15 am
>> #28, Greg Allen
>> I would still like to see one these conservatives tell us of one instance where a Democrat reported what happened during one of these top secret briefings.

I have not heard of a case. In contrast, didn’t Jay Rockefeller send a letter stating his concern about about waterboarding being torture? But, to my knowledge, he never leaked the briefing. The Bush administration, just blew him off and used “secrecy” as a way to avoid public debate.

I CERTAINLY don’t buy this conservative view that potential leaks in congress mean that the CIA needs to be a rogue agency accountable to no one.

However, I’m not naive. Of course congress leaks. But the Bush Administration leaked like crazy, too. And they leaked for the most shameless self-serving reasons. The treasonous outing of Valerie Plame was only one such instance.

By: Dallas

Dallas — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:59:43 +0000

The Cheney regime tried but failed in facist government overthrow. We now need to prosecute and set an example for others. Something this serious calls for capital punishment such as war treason.

By: zeke

zeke — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:42:09 +0000

#16 “here it turns out that a Republican leaked a confidential letter and briefing”

Holt is a Democrat. Though the example of Scooter Libby means both sides leak everything.

By: allstar

allstar — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:19:48 +0000

What better people to lie to than congress? The way they leak sensitive information the CIA might as well brief the New York Times and cut out the middle man.

What are they complaining about anyway? Congress lies to us all the time – if lies are good enough for us then lies are good enough for them.

By: RSweeney

RSweeney — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:36:05 +0000

Concealed is an interesting word.

It’s not the same as lie… which is an act of commission, not omission.

Not healthy, but considering the blabbermouths involved, understandable.