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	<title>Comments on: Oblivious Girl Falls Into Sewage Manhole While Texting</title>
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		<title>By: PracticalApplication</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/11/oblivious-girl-falls-into-sewage-manhole-while-texting/comment-page-1/#comment-1564915</link>
		<dc:creator>PracticalApplication</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JimR (#11)is on the right track. (Negligence vs. carelessness)

This silly,seemingly trivial situation has the potential to open up several pretty important issues. Texting while driving, personal resonsibility, frivolous lawsuits, health insurance, entitlement, governmental hiring practices...the list is long.

The workers (not their supervisor)should be reprimanded, not fired. The girl should have her cell phone taken away for some reasonable amount of time, even though it&#039;s unlikely she&#039;ll be deterred from texting at inappropriate times for very long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JimR (#11)is on the right track. (Negligence vs. carelessness)</p>
<p>This silly,seemingly trivial situation has the potential to open up several pretty important issues. Texting while driving, personal resonsibility, frivolous lawsuits, health insurance, entitlement, governmental hiring practices&#8230;the list is long.</p>
<p>The workers (not their supervisor)should be reprimanded, not fired. The girl should have her cell phone taken away for some reasonable amount of time, even though it&#8217;s unlikely she&#8217;ll be deterred from texting at inappropriate times for very long.</p>
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		<title>By: geeiwonder</title>
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		<dc:creator>geeiwonder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sooo what were her sat scores? down the shit hole maybe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sooo what were her sat scores? down the shit hole maybe?</p>
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		<title>By: Laughing our a**es off</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/11/oblivious-girl-falls-into-sewage-manhole-while-texting/comment-page-1/#comment-1552517</link>
		<dc:creator>Laughing our a**es off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sense another blonde joke in the making . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sense another blonde joke in the making . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Laughing our a**es off</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/11/oblivious-girl-falls-into-sewage-manhole-while-texting/comment-page-1/#comment-1552516</link>
		<dc:creator>Laughing our a**es off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait! Hold everything! What color was her hair?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait! Hold everything! What color was her hair?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/11/oblivious-girl-falls-into-sewage-manhole-while-texting/comment-page-1/#comment-1552353</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#35, Ducky,

Are you suggesting the City has no responsibility to protect the public?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#35, Ducky,</p>
<p>Are you suggesting the City has no responsibility to protect the public?</p>
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		<title>By: killer duck</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/11/oblivious-girl-falls-into-sewage-manhole-while-texting/comment-page-1/#comment-1552302</link>
		<dc:creator>killer duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should she bother looking where she is going when she knows that she can sue someone if anything happens to her?  There&#039;s no need to take responsibility for yourself in the US anymore.  A great use of our tax dollars again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should she bother looking where she is going when she knows that she can sue someone if anything happens to her?  There&#8217;s no need to take responsibility for yourself in the US anymore.  A great use of our tax dollars again.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be more worried about her cuts getting infected after being dipped in raw sewage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be more worried about her cuts getting infected after being dipped in raw sewage.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#32, Clancy&#039;s Dad,

You make a good point. This happened in New York however and they are decently paid AND unionized there. 

I live outside of town and supply my own water, septic treatment, and garbage pickup. The only thing the county does for us is take care of the roads and I can&#039;t complain about the job they do. Yes my taxes are low but so are the services.

I don&#039;t have a problem with paying decent living wages to anyone. Just because they happen to work for me is not an excuse to pay minimum wages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#32, Clancy&#8217;s Dad,</p>
<p>You make a good point. This happened in New York however and they are decently paid AND unionized there. </p>
<p>I live outside of town and supply my own water, septic treatment, and garbage pickup. The only thing the county does for us is take care of the roads and I can&#8217;t complain about the job they do. Yes my taxes are low but so are the services.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with paying decent living wages to anyone. Just because they happen to work for me is not an excuse to pay minimum wages.</p>
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		<title>By: clancys_daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>clancys_daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 29 Mr. Fusion said,  on July 12th, 2009 at 10:56 am #27, &quot;chuck, After they are fired the city could hire some people smart enough to erect barricades around open man holes.&quot;  I&#039;m guessing you have never seen what city employees get paid.  To hire good people you have to pay and provide some respect.  Cities don&#039;t do that, they just hire the minimum wage and treat them like dirt.  Who cares if they leave, after all their just cheap labor.  If you drank water from the tap, took a shower, washed clothes or dishes, or flushed a toilet today, thank a city employee for providing the service.  Ok I will get of my soap box now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 29 Mr. Fusion said,  on July 12th, 2009 at 10:56 am #27, &#8220;chuck, After they are fired the city could hire some people smart enough to erect barricades around open man holes.&#8221;  I&#8217;m guessing you have never seen what city employees get paid.  To hire good people you have to pay and provide some respect.  Cities don&#8217;t do that, they just hire the minimum wage and treat them like dirt.  Who cares if they leave, after all their just cheap labor.  If you drank water from the tap, took a shower, washed clothes or dishes, or flushed a toilet today, thank a city employee for providing the service.  Ok I will get of my soap box now.</p>
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		<title>By: AlsoDidThat</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlsoDidThat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually did the same thing, although I was reading my mail on my phone when I did it.  This was in Austin, Texas though.  I fell about 4 feet down, banged up my shin on the way.  Inside the manhole was a gas meter, not crap, thankfully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually did the same thing, although I was reading my mail on my phone when I did it.  This was in Austin, Texas though.  I fell about 4 feet down, banged up my shin on the way.  Inside the manhole was a gas meter, not crap, thankfully.</p>
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		<title>By: Jägermeister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jägermeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24 - RTaylor

Nice observation.</description>
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<p>Nice observation.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#27, chuck,

After they are fired the city could hire some people smart enough to erect barricades around open man holes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#27, chuck,</p>
<p>After they are fired the city could hire some people smart enough to erect barricades around open man holes.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24 - agreed, and what are we doing to get out of the hole? A: dig some more!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24 &#8211; agreed, and what are we doing to get out of the hole? A: dig some more!!</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a thought: after we fire the incompetent worker and the incompetent supervisor, who do we get to fix sewer pipes?

If you ever wondered why you see 9 city workers standing around while the 10th guy digs a hole, it&#039;s because of morans who can&#039;t walk and look in the same direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thought: after we fire the incompetent worker and the incompetent supervisor, who do we get to fix sewer pipes?</p>
<p>If you ever wondered why you see 9 city workers standing around while the 10th guy digs a hole, it&#8217;s because of morans who can&#8217;t walk and look in the same direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24, RT,

I like it.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24, RT,</p>
<p>I like it.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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