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	<title>Comments on: Suppressed 60 Minutes Report from 1977-1978 on Swine Flu Fiasco</title>
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		<title>By: wesuydam</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/11/suppressed-60-minutes-report-from-1977-1978-on-swine-flu-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-1575232</link>
		<dc:creator>wesuydam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That whole segment of the show is available &lt;a href=&quot;http://healthspectator.com/the-60-minutes-swine-flu-vaccination-video-with-mike-wallace/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;here&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. Unfortunately, the new swine flu vaccine(s) look to be as bad as the 1976 version. The new vaccines are just as hastily produced and contain thimerosal and risky, non-FDA-approved adjuvants.

So it&#039;s a crap shoot. If you don&#039;t get the shot, you might get the flu and there&#039;s a chance if you do that it will be severe, even fatal.

If you do get the shot, all the above apply, plus the shot itself could cripple or kill you. I&#039;ll take a chance with the flu, personally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That whole segment of the show is available <a href="http://healthspectator.com/the-60-minutes-swine-flu-vaccination-video-with-mike-wallace/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>. Unfortunately, the new swine flu vaccine(s) look to be as bad as the 1976 version. The new vaccines are just as hastily produced and contain thimerosal and risky, non-FDA-approved adjuvants.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s a crap shoot. If you don&#8217;t get the shot, you might get the flu and there&#8217;s a chance if you do that it will be severe, even fatal.</p>
<p>If you do get the shot, all the above apply, plus the shot itself could cripple or kill you. I&#8217;ll take a chance with the flu, personally.</p>
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		<title>By: TwoToTheHead</title>
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		<dc:creator>TwoToTheHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Can I just say that by buying into conspiracy theories and scare-mongering&quot;

Yeah, because 60 Minutes has stayed on the air for 40 years pretty much by perpetuating &#039;conspiracy therories&#039; and &#039;scare-mongering.&#039; 

Question Authority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Can I just say that by buying into conspiracy theories and scare-mongering&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, because 60 Minutes has stayed on the air for 40 years pretty much by perpetuating &#8216;conspiracy therories&#8217; and &#8217;scare-mongering.&#8217; </p>
<p>Question Authority.</p>
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		<title>By: seriously?</title>
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		<dc:creator>seriously?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I just say that by buying into conspiracy theories and scare-mongering and doing the &quot;trendy&quot; thing by refusing to have your vaccines, it&#039;s not only your own health (or your childrens) that you put at risk... The whole population suffers.. 
In a way, it&#039;s fair enough to play so fast and loose with your own health if you are so inclined, but when you&#039;re risking the health of the population (and therefore the health of my children), it&#039;s difficult to just roll my eyes and dismiss you..
Number 11&#039;s comment is just beyond comprehension in my eyes.. As difficult as it was to single out one exceedingly ill-informed comment to correct in that rant, I would just like to clarify one point.. Yes, viruses are non-living entities (in that they need a living host to reproduce).. The vaccines that are commercially available are either killed (meaning that they are rendered safe by inactivation) or simply consist of the important bits for immune recognition (meaning that there is no actual virus there).. 
In reply to Number 14, polio was on the decline anyway when the vaccine was introduced, due to better sanitation practices.. Being a disease which is transmitted by ingestion of sewage, as society evolved and sewage treatment got better, it naturally declined.. The polio vaccine has saved countless people from death and disfigurement..
If vaccines are so dreadful for our health and completely ineffective, then why has there been a huge increase in cases of measles and mumps since people were terrified by the media&#039;s portrayal of the MMR scare and started refusing their children the jab (the underlying &quot;research&quot;, by the way, was based on almost nothing... but that&#039;s another rant altogether..)
For everyone out there, I would tentatively suggest sourcing your information from peer-reviewed medical studies, rather than a celebrity, hearsay or a natural health newsletter... It&#039;s the only way to get yourself fairly informed with no bias.. 
Sometimes things don&#039;t work, but independent researchers don&#039;t lie.. If you are really concerned, learn something about evidence based medicine and critically appraise the studies yourself... Don&#039;t listen to anyone uncritically; even me.. Find out for yourself and make your own informed choices...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I just say that by buying into conspiracy theories and scare-mongering and doing the &#8220;trendy&#8221; thing by refusing to have your vaccines, it&#8217;s not only your own health (or your childrens) that you put at risk&#8230; The whole population suffers..<br />
In a way, it&#8217;s fair enough to play so fast and loose with your own health if you are so inclined, but when you&#8217;re risking the health of the population (and therefore the health of my children), it&#8217;s difficult to just roll my eyes and dismiss you..<br />
Number 11&#8217;s comment is just beyond comprehension in my eyes.. As difficult as it was to single out one exceedingly ill-informed comment to correct in that rant, I would just like to clarify one point.. Yes, viruses are non-living entities (in that they need a living host to reproduce).. The vaccines that are commercially available are either killed (meaning that they are rendered safe by inactivation) or simply consist of the important bits for immune recognition (meaning that there is no actual virus there)..<br />
In reply to Number 14, polio was on the decline anyway when the vaccine was introduced, due to better sanitation practices.. Being a disease which is transmitted by ingestion of sewage, as society evolved and sewage treatment got better, it naturally declined.. The polio vaccine has saved countless people from death and disfigurement..<br />
If vaccines are so dreadful for our health and completely ineffective, then why has there been a huge increase in cases of measles and mumps since people were terrified by the media&#8217;s portrayal of the MMR scare and started refusing their children the jab (the underlying &#8220;research&#8221;, by the way, was based on almost nothing&#8230; but that&#8217;s another rant altogether..)<br />
For everyone out there, I would tentatively suggest sourcing your information from peer-reviewed medical studies, rather than a celebrity, hearsay or a natural health newsletter&#8230; It&#8217;s the only way to get yourself fairly informed with no bias..<br />
Sometimes things don&#8217;t work, but independent researchers don&#8217;t lie.. If you are really concerned, learn something about evidence based medicine and critically appraise the studies yourself&#8230; Don&#8217;t listen to anyone uncritically; even me.. Find out for yourself and make your own informed choices&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kellstr</title>
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		<dc:creator>kellstr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no problem with getting flu shots. I am usually the first to recommend them to friends. But in this case the public was lied to about the vaccine given out. If there is a similar campaign for the current flu I will not get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with getting flu shots. I am usually the first to recommend them to friends. But in this case the public was lied to about the vaccine given out. If there is a similar campaign for the current flu I will not get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Cain</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/11/suppressed-60-minutes-report-from-1977-1978-on-swine-flu-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-1552568</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This doesn&#039;t mean flu shots are bad, its just that corporations and governments are corrupt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This doesn&#8217;t mean flu shots are bad, its just that corporations and governments are corrupt.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendal</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/11/suppressed-60-minutes-report-from-1977-1978-on-swine-flu-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-1552453</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me whilst I take this chip out of the back of my neck...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me whilst I take this chip out of the back of my neck&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Timuchin</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/11/suppressed-60-minutes-report-from-1977-1978-on-swine-flu-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-1552162</link>
		<dc:creator>Timuchin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a story by Salon about the Thimerasol they use in many vaccines including influenza:
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/06/16/thimerosal/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a story by Salon about the Thimerasol they use in many vaccines including influenza:<br />
<a href="http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/06/16/thimerosal/index.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/06/16/thimerosal/index.html' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/06/16/thimerosal/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: JOe</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/11/suppressed-60-minutes-report-from-1977-1978-on-swine-flu-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-1552109</link>
		<dc:creator>JOe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was an illegal immigrant posing as a doctor in Houston 2 years ago and charged people 20 bucks for a &quot;flu shot&quot; that was water and sugar. He convinced a major company there that he could do the shots for it&#039;s workers and they let him do it and he got busted. But since Houston is a &quot;sanctuary city&quot; for illegal immigrants....he disappeared with the money to Mexico after he posted &quot;bond&quot;. He made about $200,000 U.S. in a week and split.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was an illegal immigrant posing as a doctor in Houston 2 years ago and charged people 20 bucks for a &#8220;flu shot&#8221; that was water and sugar. He convinced a major company there that he could do the shots for it&#8217;s workers and they let him do it and he got busted. But since Houston is a &#8220;sanctuary city&#8221; for illegal immigrants&#8230;.he disappeared with the money to Mexico after he posted &#8220;bond&#8221;. He made about $200,000 U.S. in a week and split.</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
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		<dc:creator>noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some things just never change.  They had butt-covering bureaucrats and politicians then too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some things just never change.  They had butt-covering bureaucrats and politicians then too.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/11/suppressed-60-minutes-report-from-1977-1978-on-swine-flu-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-1552074</link>
		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Canada there was an similar &lt;a href=&quot;http://statismwatch.ca/2009/05/01/lessons-of-1976-swine-flu-fear-mass-vaccinations-wasted-millions/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;hysterical reaction&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt; from the government.

&lt;b&gt;Marc Lalonde, who as federal health minister in 1976 ordered some 10 million doses of vaccine.

“Ah, mon Dieu, that was the time I threw away $10-million,” &lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Canada there was an similar <a href="http://statismwatch.ca/2009/05/01/lessons-of-1976-swine-flu-fear-mass-vaccinations-wasted-millions/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><u>hysterical reaction</u></a> from the government.</p>
<p><b>Marc Lalonde, who as federal health minister in 1976 ordered some 10 million doses of vaccine.</p>
<p>“Ah, mon Dieu, that was the time I threw away $10-million,” </b></p>
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		<title>By: MoreGruelPlease</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/11/suppressed-60-minutes-report-from-1977-1978-on-swine-flu-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-1551960</link>
		<dc:creator>MoreGruelPlease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re not a person who knows how to download videos from youtube, now is a great time to become one - it&#039;s easy!  Just google around and you&#039;ll find a complete line of free utilities that allow you to do it.  

Then, save these two videos.  

And then we&#039;ll all just keep finding places to repost &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re not a person who knows how to download videos from youtube, now is a great time to become one &#8211; it&#8217;s easy!  Just google around and you&#8217;ll find a complete line of free utilities that allow you to do it.  </p>
<p>Then, save these two videos.  </p>
<p>And then we&#8217;ll all just keep finding places to repost &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: poopsushi</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/11/suppressed-60-minutes-report-from-1977-1978-on-swine-flu-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-1551959</link>
		<dc:creator>poopsushi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 05:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah...this is also when they went ahead and introduced HIV in the United States as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah&#8230;this is also when they went ahead and introduced HIV in the United States as well.</p>
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		<title>By: eduardo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/11/suppressed-60-minutes-report-from-1977-1978-on-swine-flu-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-1551886</link>
		<dc:creator>eduardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will take it once it is proven safe and effective by a randomize clinical trial (usually takes a couple of years to complete).  So may be it will be save to take in 2011.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will take it once it is proven safe and effective by a randomize clinical trial (usually takes a couple of years to complete).  So may be it will be save to take in 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: dcphill</title>
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		<dc:creator>dcphill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not get an inoculation unless it is personnaly prescribed by a person who is licensed to practice medicine. Be skeptical of assertions
that this is for your own good. If your doctor
can&#039;t give you a straight answer about efficacy
or adverse effects then seek advice from someone who is competent to first do no harm.
Our government is not licensed to practice medicine!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not get an inoculation unless it is personnaly prescribed by a person who is licensed to practice medicine. Be skeptical of assertions<br />
that this is for your own good. If your doctor<br />
can&#8217;t give you a straight answer about efficacy<br />
or adverse effects then seek advice from someone who is competent to first do no harm.<br />
Our government is not licensed to practice medicine!!</p>
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		<title>By: deowll</title>
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		<dc:creator>deowll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19 has it. We don&#039;t know what we are talking about so it&#039;s like politics. You pick somebody you trust and natural selection removes the losers who believed the wrong person. 

I take flue shots and haven&#039;t had the flue in decades. There may not even be a connection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19 has it. We don&#8217;t know what we are talking about so it&#8217;s like politics. You pick somebody you trust and natural selection removes the losers who believed the wrong person. </p>
<p>I take flue shots and haven&#8217;t had the flue in decades. There may not even be a connection.</p>
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