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	<title>Comments on: Pentagon Study: Smoking is Hazardous to Soldiers Health</title>
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		<title>By: Rick's Cafe</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/12/pentagon-study-smoking-is-hazardous-to-soldiers-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1552919</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick's Cafe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next thing you know, they&#039;ll make being fat illegal too.   Oh wait, that a different post about the Surgeon General.</description>
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		<title>By: sea lawyer</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/12/pentagon-study-smoking-is-hazardous-to-soldiers-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1552635</link>
		<dc:creator>sea lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#48, &lt;i&gt;Soldiers have no rights until they leave service. Tell them what they will or won’t do and punish them if they break the rules.
&lt;/i&gt;

good to see clueless assholes like you still view the military as being a gang of dumb conscripts from the 18th century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#48, <i>Soldiers have no rights until they leave service. Tell them what they will or won’t do and punish them if they break the rules.<br />
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<p>good to see clueless assholes like you still view the military as being a gang of dumb conscripts from the 18th century.</p>
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		<title>By: sea lawyer</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/12/pentagon-study-smoking-is-hazardous-to-soldiers-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1552632</link>
		<dc:creator>sea lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sure why not? They can already be court martialed for being gay or smoking pot, two things guaranteed to be less harmful to their health.
&lt;/i&gt;

Speaking of gays. There is a reason why there exists a general resentment within the military of the civilian population, and a lot of it has to do with things like gay men flamboyently parading down the street in leather chaps, while a Marine corporal is told he can&#039;t wear flip-flops on liberty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Sure why not? They can already be court martialed for being gay or smoking pot, two things guaranteed to be less harmful to their health.<br />
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<p>Speaking of gays. There is a reason why there exists a general resentment within the military of the civilian population, and a lot of it has to do with things like gay men flamboyently parading down the street in leather chaps, while a Marine corporal is told he can&#8217;t wear flip-flops on liberty.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Cain</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/12/pentagon-study-smoking-is-hazardous-to-soldiers-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1552566</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The military isn&#039;t a democracy.  Smokers will just have to deal with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The military isn&#8217;t a democracy.  Smokers will just have to deal with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/12/pentagon-study-smoking-is-hazardous-to-soldiers-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1552560</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#47, SL,

&lt;i&gt;So what are you going to do, start courtmartialling privates for smoking cigarettes?

Sure why not? They can already be court martialed for being gay or smoking pot, two things guaranteed to be less harmful to their health.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#47, SL,</p>
<p><i>So what are you going to do, start courtmartialling privates for smoking cigarettes?</p>
<p>Sure why not? They can already be court martialed for being gay or smoking pot, two things guaranteed to be less harmful to their health.</i></p>
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		<title>By: notbush</title>
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		<dc:creator>notbush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soldiers have no rights until they leave service. Tell them what they will or won&#039;t do and punish them if they break the rules.

We&#039;ve seen in Iraq that soldiers are just in it for the killing and bullying, or bullshit Repuke &quot;patriotism&quot;.

I don&#039;t give a damn if they are jittery or not. Should have gotten a real job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soldiers have no rights until they leave service. Tell them what they will or won&#8217;t do and punish them if they break the rules.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve seen in Iraq that soldiers are just in it for the killing and bullying, or bullshit Repuke &#8220;patriotism&#8221;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t give a damn if they are jittery or not. Should have gotten a real job.</p>
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		<title>By: Sea Lawyer</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/12/pentagon-study-smoking-is-hazardous-to-soldiers-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1552500</link>
		<dc:creator>Sea Lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#44, Ralph

So what are you going to do, start courtmartialling privates for smoking cigarettes? Too harsh? I guess we can just NJP them with 45 days confinement to the barracks, so they can think about how much their smoking affects the taxpayers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#44, Ralph</p>
<p>So what are you going to do, start courtmartialling privates for smoking cigarettes? Too harsh? I guess we can just NJP them with 45 days confinement to the barracks, so they can think about how much their smoking affects the taxpayers.</p>
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		<title>By: JimD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tobacco Companies got started in WWI giving out FREE CIGARETES - WITH THE WAR DEPT&#039;S APPOROVAL !!!  Poisoning soldiers for a VERY LONG TIME !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tobacco Companies got started in WWI giving out FREE CIGARETES &#8211; WITH THE WAR DEPT&#8217;S APPOROVAL !!!  Poisoning soldiers for a VERY LONG TIME !!!</p>
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		<title>By: BdgBill</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/12/pentagon-study-smoking-is-hazardous-to-soldiers-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1552394</link>
		<dc:creator>BdgBill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all seriousness, I think we need a law that prevents any more federal money from being spent on tobacco studies. The question has been answered. Tobacco will kill you - we get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all seriousness, I think we need a law that prevents any more federal money from being spent on tobacco studies. The question has been answered. Tobacco will kill you &#8211; we get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph, the Bus Driver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph, the Bus Driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#42, Mike,

&lt;i&gt;If you did not serve you have no say – period. Pay taxes – so what? You pay your taxes to employ someone else to fight your battles and ensure your freedom.&lt;/i&gt;

Wrong. The military work for Americans, not for themselves. The military does and goes when, what, and where we tell them to. They wear the uniform they are given. They act in accordance with the policies given. 

Anyone wishing to set their own agenda is NOT doing their sworn duty and is subject to court martial. Step too far over the line and you risk the label of traitor.

My wife didn&#039;t serve. Are you suggesting she has no right to have a voice in setting policy? Fuck you poser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#42, Mike,</p>
<p><i>If you did not serve you have no say – period. Pay taxes – so what? You pay your taxes to employ someone else to fight your battles and ensure your freedom.</i></p>
<p>Wrong. The military work for Americans, not for themselves. The military does and goes when, what, and where we tell them to. They wear the uniform they are given. They act in accordance with the policies given. </p>
<p>Anyone wishing to set their own agenda is NOT doing their sworn duty and is subject to court martial. Step too far over the line and you risk the label of traitor.</p>
<p>My wife didn&#8217;t serve. Are you suggesting she has no right to have a voice in setting policy? Fuck you poser.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/12/pentagon-study-smoking-is-hazardous-to-soldiers-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1552310</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#23, SL,

Nice link, but unfortunately, disputed by later studies.

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/extract/338/7/470
http://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/8/3/290</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#23, SL,</p>
<p>Nice link, but unfortunately, disputed by later studies.</p>
<p><a href="http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/extract/338/7/470" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/extract/338/7/470' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/extract/338/7/470</a><br />
<a href="http://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/8/3/290" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/8/3/290' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/8/3/290</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unbelievable

It is very obvious who served and who is a clueless armchair critic.

Healthcare costs, productivity; tell you what. We&#039;ll give you a uniform and send you to the front lines. Survive a tour-no need to worry because we&#039;ll send you back, again and again. Oh, not your style, too much effort, bad hair day?
The country made a promise to the veterans – when I was in. Serve honorably and all healthcare will be provided for life free, plus other benefits. That was part of the deal. You’re putting your life on the line. No qualifiers, no income test, nothing. Well it seems the country shafted the vets on this one – liars! If you are not going to honor an agreement, then don’t make it. See how many takers you have on your new and “better” offer. What does this have to do with smoking – everything. Before even considering banning anything, provide a real – tangible alternative. Either way this is part of the price you and I pay, and will continue to pay.
Let&#039;s see you dodge the sniper fire, shrapnel, IEDs, etc., day after day. It tends to get on ones nerves. Stress relief is a must, but we must be socially correct because of armchair know nothings. Don&#039;t believe me - go visit a National Cemetery - read about the suicides, both deployed and after returning. Live with the hell you have witnessed and participated in. Smokes are a stress relief here and now. Sorry, but yoga and meditation are not very conducive to living another day in the wonderful adventure land environment. It’s real. Make a mistake and you die. There is no reset button. I have seen many non-smokers pick up the habbit when deployed. Gee, I can’t imagine why.
If you did not serve you have no say - period. Pay taxes – so what? You pay your taxes to employ someone else to fight your battles and ensure your freedom.
The Pentagon’s political correctness in some areas is very disturbing. Perhaps the staff needs re-education on the front lines, for extended periods, to refresh their memories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbelievable</p>
<p>It is very obvious who served and who is a clueless armchair critic.</p>
<p>Healthcare costs, productivity; tell you what. We&#8217;ll give you a uniform and send you to the front lines. Survive a tour-no need to worry because we&#8217;ll send you back, again and again. Oh, not your style, too much effort, bad hair day?<br />
The country made a promise to the veterans – when I was in. Serve honorably and all healthcare will be provided for life free, plus other benefits. That was part of the deal. You’re putting your life on the line. No qualifiers, no income test, nothing. Well it seems the country shafted the vets on this one – liars! If you are not going to honor an agreement, then don’t make it. See how many takers you have on your new and “better” offer. What does this have to do with smoking – everything. Before even considering banning anything, provide a real – tangible alternative. Either way this is part of the price you and I pay, and will continue to pay.<br />
Let&#8217;s see you dodge the sniper fire, shrapnel, IEDs, etc., day after day. It tends to get on ones nerves. Stress relief is a must, but we must be socially correct because of armchair know nothings. Don&#8217;t believe me &#8211; go visit a National Cemetery &#8211; read about the suicides, both deployed and after returning. Live with the hell you have witnessed and participated in. Smokes are a stress relief here and now. Sorry, but yoga and meditation are not very conducive to living another day in the wonderful adventure land environment. It’s real. Make a mistake and you die. There is no reset button. I have seen many non-smokers pick up the habbit when deployed. Gee, I can’t imagine why.<br />
If you did not serve you have no say &#8211; period. Pay taxes – so what? You pay your taxes to employ someone else to fight your battles and ensure your freedom.<br />
The Pentagon’s political correctness in some areas is very disturbing. Perhaps the staff needs re-education on the front lines, for extended periods, to refresh their memories.</p>
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		<title>By: RTaylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>RTaylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some posters understand the culture of the military, others that never served do not. That said society has change greatly since WWII.  Tobacco is a stress reliever. K rations contained matches and three cigarettes.  Sometimes you have to live for the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some posters understand the culture of the military, others that never served do not. That said society has change greatly since WWII.  Tobacco is a stress reliever. K rations contained matches and three cigarettes.  Sometimes you have to live for the day.</p>
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		<title>By: I'm fuming</title>
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		<dc:creator>I'm fuming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want to take away smokes from people who are willing to give their lives up for someone else&#039;s democracy?  LOL good luck, they are trained to fight.  They will fight to the death for freedom to smoke.  I think the pentagon knows better and are simply conducting the study to appease all the no-smoke freaks.  The pentagon is full of a lot of smart people, thank God!  Cripes, 95% of those who enlist join the military now because it&#039;s the only way they can smoke without being fined by the Nazi smoke police in free-country-America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want to take away smokes from people who are willing to give their lives up for someone else&#8217;s democracy?  LOL good luck, they are trained to fight.  They will fight to the death for freedom to smoke.  I think the pentagon knows better and are simply conducting the study to appease all the no-smoke freaks.  The pentagon is full of a lot of smart people, thank God!  Cripes, 95% of those who enlist join the military now because it&#8217;s the only way they can smoke without being fined by the Nazi smoke police in free-country-America.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather have a smoke than get shipped to Iraq.</description>
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