I’m one of those folks who will not be getting a vaccine under any circumstances, since I’m on a trial immunosuppressant medication (FTY720), made by … Novartis.

Now this “new” strain of swine flu shows up, conveniently, when the economy is very bad, and I’m betting the vaccine makers aren’t doing so well. BAILOUT! This flu germ isn’t proving to be anymore deadly, than regular flu. But since it’s “Swine” related, they got the excuse to go postal on its case. And shot every one up with whatever they can concoct, quickly and cheaply enough, to try and stop it. But more than likely it will end up being the year-round flu, that never leaves.

The problem with the Swine Flu (H1N1) is that it is emerging in the summer. The flu likes to transmit in the closed rooms and areas we have in winter.

a/n1h1 patent is theirs

virri are virulent – some more than others. although not alive, when doing their thing, virii sometimes incorporate snips of host dna, causing mutations that could cause an exponential increase in virulence/lethality. people are more mobile than in the past. the potential exists for a MAJOR pandemic. then a bunch of people die and whoever lives passes on immunity and life goes on.

See? I use the same logic you used on that brainfart of yours.

Good to know you got the point.

Bloomberg “Baxter Sent Bird Flu Virus to European Labs by Error (Update2)” very little coverage.

The contaminated vaccines were discovered and apparently no harm came from it.

Vaccines are a magnificent discovery. Contaminated or rushed vaccines, not so much.

Technocratic dictatorship, very bad news.

P.S. No one plans to forces me to buy Chinese toys.

So to sum up, your reply is “I don’t have any counter arguments, so I’ll just call you stupid”

Nice!

#14 said: “That vaccine is not a version of the virus. It is a sterilized version of the virus…”

I’m not trying to say that vaccines are bad but man, if you wanna say something meaninful, you gotta use your brain.

That brainfart you wrote there puts you right next to Mustard & conFusion in the Biggest Nonesense Writter Dept.

And no, death & sick numbers do not add up for the level of terror the “authorities” are showing.

anyone notice how in about two weeks time, both the CDC and WHO have the essentially stopped updating the statistical data for H1N1 and no longer have it front and center on their websites (they have now all but buried the statistical data)

so far, i cannot find any new stats after July, 6th. it may say the 16th, but the data is from the 3rd or 5th.

At same time, we suddenly get bombarded with pie in the sky stats of 50% jumps in infection rates, possible 4+ million infected by fall and hear of swine flu diagnosis being down over the phone!?

wtf?

To add insult to injury apparently, (like global warmng) the “science” must be settled because the WHO now “says the swine flu pandemic is the fastest-moving of all time and that it is now pointless to count every case.”

Pointless to count??? -someone pinch me.

Did they even say this?? i cannot find it on the WHO website and it does not show up in 10 pages of google searches, nor in a WHO site search, yet i get 1300+ hits on google stating it as such.

Google Search:
http://tinyurl.com/naszh9

How can anyone take any of this seriously?

As of the 6th we have global totals of 94512 infected and mere 429 deaths

This doesn’t even come near approaching standard flu stats for the U.S., let alone global.

(and the H1N1 hyper madness in Argentina.. 2485 infected, 60 dead omg! stop the presses!)

One you could easily find 100 other stats, both viral based and disease/physical injury based yearly stats that would dwarf these numbers.

This whole swine flu farce must be exposed. -if one could get to the root of this, i’d bet good money that the vaccine producers are the ones rattling everyone’s cage.

as it stands now, they (and their co-conspirators are the only ones who look to profit from this..

In addition to all this, to date, i have only seen TWO people on 3 subway lines the past 2months here in NYC actually sneezing/coughing (and only briefly, i might add) on the subway.

The numbers just don’t stand up to the hype.

-s

The problems with all this fluttering about the swine flu is that there is a big lack in understanding about the flu virus, and the nature of vaccines. I can’t be bothered to go into it all now, but a lot of these people are using very pseudo-scientific arguments. Yes right now there are less deaths from the swine flu than the normal flu. However the normal flu is understood, and people are still urged to get vaccinated against it. However it is well known and is in a state of balance with a regularly yearly cycle and accurate estimates of the death rates. However, when a new strain of the flu is discovered it opens the door for the possibilities of it behaving differently. Yes, sometimes it will end up not being very harmful and eventually fizzle out. No doubt people will then use that as the basis for claiming that all future potential epidemic diseases are nothing but hyped up fear mongering from the government. There is also the possibility however that it will mutate into a very contagious and very deadly strain. History has shown that diseases can do this and wipe out millions. This is the possible outcome when a new disease comes out, so yes, we have to monitor it carefully. Hopefully it will fizzle out, but it also might not be, so we buy lots of vaccines incase that does happen.

#7 That vaccine is not a version of the virus. It is a sterilized version of the virus which makes the antibodies come out, but doesnt affect the body as the virus would. Its basically is the virus without the DNA. There is no chance of it breaking out, so containment will not be an issue.

There is just too much conspiracy rubbish on here. I won’t pretend that the vaccine companies and politicians are saints. They can be incompetent, and at worst, corrupt. But there is not big conspiracy to wipe out half the population. Cool your jets people.