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	<title>Comments on: Why DRM is not a good idea&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: GetSmart</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/17/why-drm-is-not-a-good-idea/comment-page-3/#comment-1554443</link>
		<dc:creator>GetSmart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you haven&#039;t got it figured out, &lt;i&gt;Stallman has been right all along.&lt;/i&gt; This shit will just get worse as time marches on. And this sort of thing is the least of the abuses we&#039;ll see.
But for the moment our sacred history is safe. Why, where would we be without the morally uplifting story about how Andrew Carnegie chopped down the cherry tree and sold the lumber for a profit and how Jesus and John the Baptist used Tang to baptize the Knights Templar at the War of the Rose bowl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you haven&#8217;t got it figured out, <i>Stallman has been right all along.</i> This shit will just get worse as time marches on. And this sort of thing is the least of the abuses we&#8217;ll see.<br />
But for the moment our sacred history is safe. Why, where would we be without the morally uplifting story about how Andrew Carnegie chopped down the cherry tree and sold the lumber for a profit and how Jesus and John the Baptist used Tang to baptize the Knights Templar at the War of the Rose bowl.</p>
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		<title>By: newrepublican</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/17/why-drm-is-not-a-good-idea/comment-page-3/#comment-1554367</link>
		<dc:creator>newrepublican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.

When you finish with the &quot;maybes&quot; and &quot;what-ifs&quot;, read this:

http://tinyurl.com/mwdasg

It was done poorly - at the request of the publisher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn.</p>
<p>When you finish with the &#8220;maybes&#8221; and &#8220;what-ifs&#8221;, read this:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/mwdasg" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/mwdasg' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/mwdasg</a></p>
<p>It was done poorly &#8211; at the request of the publisher.</p>
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		<title>By: The0ne</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/17/why-drm-is-not-a-good-idea/comment-page-2/#comment-1554289</link>
		<dc:creator>The0ne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazon IS going to feel the heat. Their the ones that advertised and sold the goods. That&#039;s what most customers will come back to complain to. The publisher is probably just laughing at the whole thing :)

Seriously, would you complain to Amazon or the publisher? And who will you most likely get a response from and in return allow you to rant and vent? AMAZON :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazon IS going to feel the heat. Their the ones that advertised and sold the goods. That&#8217;s what most customers will come back to complain to. The publisher is probably just laughing at the whole thing <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously, would you complain to Amazon or the publisher? And who will you most likely get a response from and in return allow you to rant and vent? AMAZON <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: smartalix</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/17/why-drm-is-not-a-good-idea/comment-page-2/#comment-1554261</link>
		<dc:creator>smartalix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Capitalist America the Book orders YOU!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Capitalist America the Book orders YOU!</p>
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		<title>By: Improbus</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/17/why-drm-is-not-a-good-idea/comment-page-2/#comment-1554260</link>
		<dc:creator>Improbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@iskander

In the New World Order YOU are the property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@iskander</p>
<p>In the New World Order YOU are the property.</p>
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		<title>By: iskander</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/17/why-drm-is-not-a-good-idea/comment-page-2/#comment-1554254</link>
		<dc:creator>iskander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will soon need to re-define the words &quot;buy&quot; and &quot;own&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will soon need to re-define the words &#8220;buy&#8221; and &#8220;own&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kjackman</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/17/why-drm-is-not-a-good-idea/comment-page-2/#comment-1554236</link>
		<dc:creator>kjackman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude... I have a Kindle (gen 2).  I bought 1984 a few weeks ago and have been reading it off and on, along with several other books.  I had no idea this had happened until I read it here. 

So I grabbed the Kindle and took a look... it&#039;s gone.  No announcement, no explanation, no warning, no nothing, just... gone.  So, if I hadn&#039;t read about it here, I&#039;d be wondering what the hell happened to the book I bought... or &lt;i&gt;thought&lt;/i&gt; I&#039;d bought, but... maybe I didn&#039;t, maybe it never really happened, I only &lt;i&gt;imagined&lt;/i&gt; it did...

In other words, 1984 went down the freakin&#039; &lt;i&gt;memory hole!&lt;/i&gt;  

Geez, Orwell, how can you even &lt;i&gt;sleep&lt;/i&gt; at night now!?  &gt;:-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude&#8230; I have a Kindle (gen 2).  I bought 1984 a few weeks ago and have been reading it off and on, along with several other books.  I had no idea this had happened until I read it here. </p>
<p>So I grabbed the Kindle and took a look&#8230; it&#8217;s gone.  No announcement, no explanation, no warning, no nothing, just&#8230; gone.  So, if I hadn&#8217;t read about it here, I&#8217;d be wondering what the hell happened to the book I bought&#8230; or <i>thought</i> I&#8217;d bought, but&#8230; maybe I didn&#8217;t, maybe it never really happened, I only <i>imagined</i> it did&#8230;</p>
<p>In other words, 1984 went down the freakin&#8217; <i>memory hole!</i>  </p>
<p>Geez, Orwell, how can you even <i>sleep</i> at night now!?  &gt;:-(</p>
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		<title>By: kywrite</title>
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		<dc:creator>kywrite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On further thought, Amazon sells books via subcontractors as well in an automated vendor system. Maybe what happened is one of these vendors scarfed up the gutenberg.au books, formatted them nicely, and put them up for sale w/o permission, knowingly or unknowingly.

In that case, then, Amazon should not have removed the books from Kindles. Instead, they should have replaced that unauthorized version with the correct, legal version THAT THEY STILL SELL on Amazon. 1984 is one of their featured Kindle titles, for $9.99. Sure, they would have had to pay the license cost to the publisher -- but they should also have taken precautions with their vendors to ensure books sold via Amazon, using Amazon&#039;s good name and resources, were legally the vendors&#039; to sell. They should make good and offer these customers a new copy of the deleted books for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On further thought, Amazon sells books via subcontractors as well in an automated vendor system. Maybe what happened is one of these vendors scarfed up the gutenberg.au books, formatted them nicely, and put them up for sale w/o permission, knowingly or unknowingly.</p>
<p>In that case, then, Amazon should not have removed the books from Kindles. Instead, they should have replaced that unauthorized version with the correct, legal version THAT THEY STILL SELL on Amazon. 1984 is one of their featured Kindle titles, for $9.99. Sure, they would have had to pay the license cost to the publisher &#8212; but they should also have taken precautions with their vendors to ensure books sold via Amazon, using Amazon&#8217;s good name and resources, were legally the vendors&#8217; to sell. They should make good and offer these customers a new copy of the deleted books for free.</p>
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		<title>By: kywrite</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/17/why-drm-is-not-a-good-idea/comment-page-2/#comment-1554224</link>
		<dc:creator>kywrite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it was an unauthorized version? Does this mean Amazon is picking up books on public-domain sites like gutenberg.au (which uses a different copyright law system and, yes, has all Orwell&#039;s works available for free), reformatting them for Kindle, then SELLING them? That would explain the sudden &quot;oops, we can&#039;t sell this unauthorized version in the US&quot; realization, and the seemingly sneaky removal in the middle of the night.

What a rip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it was an unauthorized version? Does this mean Amazon is picking up books on public-domain sites like gutenberg.au (which uses a different copyright law system and, yes, has all Orwell&#8217;s works available for free), reformatting them for Kindle, then SELLING them? That would explain the sudden &#8220;oops, we can&#8217;t sell this unauthorized version in the US&#8221; realization, and the seemingly sneaky removal in the middle of the night.</p>
<p>What a rip.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Cain</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/17/why-drm-is-not-a-good-idea/comment-page-2/#comment-1554223</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got to use a kindle.  I&#039;m still mystified why this is considered better than a book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got to use a kindle.  I&#8217;m still mystified why this is considered better than a book.</p>
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		<title>By: deowll</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/17/why-drm-is-not-a-good-idea/comment-page-2/#comment-1554214</link>
		<dc:creator>deowll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do buy ebooks in RTF format. They work on all my computers. Even my little net book has a 10 inch screen and I&#039;ve got a 9 cell battery pack. I do have to plug it in more often but it costs about the same and is rather more flexible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do buy ebooks in RTF format. They work on all my computers. Even my little net book has a 10 inch screen and I&#8217;ve got a 9 cell battery pack. I do have to plug it in more often but it costs about the same and is rather more flexible.</p>
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		<title>By: Animby</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/17/why-drm-is-not-a-good-idea/comment-page-2/#comment-1554199</link>
		<dc:creator>Animby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want a Kindle so bad I an taste it. But, I&#039;m waiting to see what PlasticLogic comes out with (soon?) so I can read PDfs and other formats. 

As for the iPhone? Sheesh! My reading glasses need reading glasses to get through a newspaper on one of those screens...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want a Kindle so bad I an taste it. But, I&#8217;m waiting to see what PlasticLogic comes out with (soon?) so I can read PDfs and other formats. </p>
<p>As for the iPhone? Sheesh! My reading glasses need reading glasses to get through a newspaper on one of those screens&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RBG</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/17/why-drm-is-not-a-good-idea/comment-page-2/#comment-1554189</link>
		<dc:creator>RBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I digress:

Just purchased over 30 Bonanza episodes for $5. This was entirely due to the fact that the copyright owners screwed up and forgot to extend the copyright for these particular years, pushing it into public domain.

Had to laugh that it was marketed as &quot;The Best of Bonanza&quot;

They couldn&#039;t use the iconic Bonanza theme likely due to the fact that it has it&#039;s own separate copyright.

Instead they use a piece of lame stock music.

No way sez I and I insist upon synching a Bonanza theme CD cut with the opening credits for my young kids to properly enjoy &quot;the classics.

Didn&#039;t help. They thought Bonanza was boring. What is the world coming to?

RBG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I digress:</p>
<p>Just purchased over 30 Bonanza episodes for $5. This was entirely due to the fact that the copyright owners screwed up and forgot to extend the copyright for these particular years, pushing it into public domain.</p>
<p>Had to laugh that it was marketed as &#8220;The Best of Bonanza&#8221;</p>
<p>They couldn&#8217;t use the iconic Bonanza theme likely due to the fact that it has it&#8217;s own separate copyright.</p>
<p>Instead they use a piece of lame stock music.</p>
<p>No way sez I and I insist upon synching a Bonanza theme CD cut with the opening credits for my young kids to properly enjoy &#8220;the classics.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t help. They thought Bonanza was boring. What is the world coming to?</p>
<p>RBG</p>
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		<title>By: KarmaBaby</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/17/why-drm-is-not-a-good-idea/comment-page-2/#comment-1554156</link>
		<dc:creator>KarmaBaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People read?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People read?</p>
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		<title>By: Oinky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if I had bought that book  on my Kindle, and it was deleted, Amazon certainly will credit my account, right?  And, if I had finished reading the book, I will have read it for free. Just like a library, but more to the point, the publisher lost a sale, didn&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if I had bought that book  on my Kindle, and it was deleted, Amazon certainly will credit my account, right?  And, if I had finished reading the book, I will have read it for free. Just like a library, but more to the point, the publisher lost a sale, didn&#8217;t they?</p>
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