Comments on: Coppers Taser perp – he bursts into flames http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/21/coppers-shoot-man-with-taser-%e2%80%93-he-bursts-into-flames/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:40:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: gumchewr http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/21/coppers-shoot-man-with-taser-%e2%80%93-he-bursts-into-flames/comment-page-2/#comment-1555507 gumchewr Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:37:08 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=53659#comment-1555507 "I hadn’t realized that police departments are down to only two choices when it comes to conflict with a suspect: taser – or shoot ‘em?" Couple these two options with a "need for speed" in conflict resolution and it's a recipe for tragedy. Why is it that a man with a knife is considered so dangerous that he needs to be shot and killed rather than spending whatever amount of time it takes to get the advantage and disarm him? I believe today's policeman is psychologically predisposed to resorting to violence during conflict resolution. He has a gun and by god he's going to use it! “I hadn’t realized that police departments are down to only two choices when it comes to conflict with a suspect: taser – or shoot ‘em?”

Couple these two options with a “need for speed” in conflict resolution and it’s a recipe for tragedy. Why is it that a man with a knife is considered so dangerous that he needs to be shot and killed rather than spending whatever amount of time it takes to get the advantage and disarm him?

I believe today’s policeman is psychologically predisposed to resorting to violence during conflict resolution. He has a gun and by god he’s going to use it!

]]> By: BdgBill http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/21/coppers-shoot-man-with-taser-%e2%80%93-he-bursts-into-flames/comment-page-2/#comment-1555505 BdgBill Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:29:23 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=53659#comment-1555505 <blockquote>ran at them carrying a container of petrol and a cigarette lighter</blockquote> The cop should be given a medal for bravery for resisting the urge to put a bullet between this guys eyes. I don't see anything wrong with a society where, if you walk around threatening police officers with a painful death, you just may get messed up yourself.

ran at them carrying a container of petrol and a cigarette lighter

The cop should be given a medal for bravery for resisting the urge to put a bullet between this guys eyes.

I don’t see anything wrong with a society where, if you walk around threatening police officers with a painful death, you just may get messed up yourself.

]]> By: Number6 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/21/coppers-shoot-man-with-taser-%e2%80%93-he-bursts-into-flames/comment-page-2/#comment-1555483 Number6 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:13:10 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=53659#comment-1555483 There is one other option that never seems to occur to cops. Leave the guy alone. All to often they interfere in situations where no one it in danger or being threatened and turn them into situations where people are hurt. And of course it's always the fault of the people they whose lives they were budding into. If they had left the man to sniff his gas in peace this wouldn't have happened. There is one other option that never seems to occur to cops. Leave the guy alone.

All to often they interfere in situations where no one it in danger or being threatened and turn them into situations where people are hurt. And of course it’s always the fault of the people they whose lives they were budding into.

If they had left the man to sniff his gas in peace this wouldn’t have happened.

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/21/coppers-shoot-man-with-taser-%e2%80%93-he-bursts-into-flames/comment-page-2/#comment-1555469 ECA Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:03:45 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=53659#comment-1555469 26, OR THROW the gas at the cop.. 26, OR THROW the gas at the cop..

]]> By: RS http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/21/coppers-shoot-man-with-taser-%e2%80%93-he-bursts-into-flames/comment-page-2/#comment-1555466 RS Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:35:11 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=53659#comment-1555466 If my parents taught me one thing its never get confrontational with somebody armed with a taser while your holding a can of gasoline. At least drop the can before you advance. If my parents taught me one thing its never get confrontational with somebody armed with a taser while your holding a can of gasoline. At least drop the can before you advance.

]]> By: Hugh Ripper http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/21/coppers-shoot-man-with-taser-%e2%80%93-he-bursts-into-flames/comment-page-2/#comment-1555465 Hugh Ripper Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:30:05 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=53659#comment-1555465 Here in Victoria, the police shoot you with real guns then cover it up. Those WA cops are just plain soft. Here in Victoria, the police shoot you with real guns then cover it up. Those WA cops are just plain soft.

]]> By: Mr. Fusion http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/21/coppers-shoot-man-with-taser-%e2%80%93-he-bursts-into-flames/comment-page-2/#comment-1555447 Mr. Fusion Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:44:54 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=53659#comment-1555447 While the police reaction is fairly lazy, I am more amazed that Benson once again decides to blame Obama for what happened in Australia. Benson, you're an idiot AND a troll. Not to mention you really should see a dentist, your breath stinks. Either is it a serious gum infection or you spew to much shit. While the police reaction is fairly lazy, I am more amazed that Benson once again decides to blame Obama for what happened in Australia.

Benson, you’re an idiot AND a troll. Not to mention you really should see a dentist, your breath stinks. Either is it a serious gum infection or you spew to much shit.

]]> By: The0ne http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/21/coppers-shoot-man-with-taser-%e2%80%93-he-bursts-into-flames/comment-page-2/#comment-1555396 The0ne Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:35:54 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=53659#comment-1555396 "I hadn’t realized that police departments are down to only two choices when it comes to conflict with a suspect: taser – or shoot ‘em?" When you're lazy and fat there aren't many things you can do to defend yourself. You can't chase them, you can't kung-fu them, you probably can't even aim the taser and gun properly to hit the person, but they are the easiest and requires the most minimal amount of energy to do. “I hadn’t realized that police departments are down to only two choices when it comes to conflict with a suspect: taser – or shoot ‘em?”

When you’re lazy and fat there aren’t many things you can do to defend yourself. You can’t chase them, you can’t kung-fu them, you probably can’t even aim the taser and gun properly to hit the person, but they are the easiest and requires the most minimal amount of energy to do.

]]> By: Roger http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/21/coppers-shoot-man-with-taser-%e2%80%93-he-bursts-into-flames/comment-page-2/#comment-1555336 Roger Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:18:59 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=53659#comment-1555336 Was the cop whistling the Doors? Was the cop whistling the Doors?

]]> By: soundwash http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/21/coppers-shoot-man-with-taser-%e2%80%93-he-bursts-into-flames/comment-page-2/#comment-1555333 soundwash Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:00:44 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=53659#comment-1555333 see, now THAT is something we need a video clip of. I'm thinking maybe basic physics should be course police should be made to take as well. how about this: -new rule, for every 4 "perps" a cop tasers, he must be tasered twice--for 30seconds each time, or lose a months pay. maybe that will slow down the free for all going on with law enforcement & tasers these days. lets just hope nobody in congress ever gets it in their head that maybe law enforcement should use hand held microwave ADS guns instead..because you know, they're "safer" -2 see, now THAT is something we need a video clip of.

I’m thinking maybe basic physics should be
course police should be made to take as well.

how about this:

-new rule, for every 4 “perps” a cop tasers, he must be tasered twice–for 30seconds each time, or lose a months pay.

maybe that will slow down the free for all going on with law enforcement & tasers
these days.

lets just hope nobody in congress ever gets
it in their head that maybe law enforcement should use hand held microwave ADS guns instead..because you know, they’re “safer”

-2

]]> By: deowll http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/21/coppers-shoot-man-with-taser-%e2%80%93-he-bursts-into-flames/comment-page-1/#comment-1555316 deowll Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:04:07 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=53659#comment-1555316 "Police say they used the Taser on Ronald Mitchell, 36, when he ran at them carrying a container of petrol and a cigarette lighter." "I hadn’t realized that police departments are down to only two choices when it comes to conflict with a suspect: taser – or shoot ‘em?" The poster is welcome to wrestle him to the ground and subdue him. Other, saner, people are going to keep their distance. “Police say they used the Taser on Ronald Mitchell, 36, when he ran at them carrying a container of petrol and a cigarette lighter.”

“I hadn’t realized that police departments are down to only two choices when it comes to conflict with a suspect: taser – or shoot ‘em?”

The poster is welcome to wrestle him to the ground and subdue him. Other, saner, people are going to keep their distance.

]]> By: breeai http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/21/coppers-shoot-man-with-taser-%e2%80%93-he-bursts-into-flames/comment-page-1/#comment-1555315 breeai Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:01:38 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=53659#comment-1555315 fire fire fire

fire

]]> By: RTaylor http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/21/coppers-shoot-man-with-taser-%e2%80%93-he-bursts-into-flames/comment-page-1/#comment-1555314 RTaylor Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:58:13 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=53659#comment-1555314 To use nightstick, ASP, or kuhbotan you are in hand to hand combat range. Bad things can happen in close contact. Holsters has safety devices to prevent grabbing the weapon, but if the aggressor knows about it, they can defeat it. Also there's strict guideline where you can strike with a baton, aimed at pressure points. A hard strike across the nose can be deadly. Remember the cops usually only go through combat training once a year for a few hours. To use nightstick, ASP, or kuhbotan you are in hand to hand combat range. Bad things can happen in close contact. Holsters has safety devices to prevent grabbing the weapon, but if the aggressor knows about it, they can defeat it. Also there’s strict guideline where you can strike with a baton, aimed at pressure points. A hard strike across the nose can be deadly. Remember the cops usually only go through combat training once a year for a few hours.

]]> By: be thinkin http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/21/coppers-shoot-man-with-taser-%e2%80%93-he-bursts-into-flames/comment-page-1/#comment-1555309 be thinkin Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:36:45 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=53659#comment-1555309 #5 "So, he thinks that a policeman should have a sitdown quiet discussion when a madman charges with the equivalent of a firebomb. Sounds like something Obama will come up with." Obama? Quite kid, grownups are talking. #5

“So, he thinks that a policeman should have a sitdown quiet discussion when a madman charges with the equivalent of a firebomb. Sounds like something Obama will come up with.”

Obama? Quite kid, grownups are talking.

]]> By: brm http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/07/21/coppers-shoot-man-with-taser-%e2%80%93-he-bursts-into-flames/comment-page-1/#comment-1555307 brm Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:32:34 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=53659#comment-1555307 I'd rather be shot than burned to death. Srsly. I’d rather be shot than burned to death. Srsly.

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