U.S. citizens wrongly detained, deported by ICE — It’s not that hard to find illegals. I can do it. But apparently these guys cannot. And I wonder what sort of lawsuits ensue over this sort of incompetence?

The son of a decorated Vietnam veteran, Hector Veloz is a U.S. citizen, but in 2007 immigration officials mistook him for an illegal immigrant and locked him in an Arizona prison for 13 months.

Veloz had to prove his citizenship from behind bars. An aunt helped him track down his father’s birth certificate and his own, his parents’ marriage certificate, his father’s school, military and Social Security records.

After nine months, a judge determined that he was a citizen, but immigration authorities appealed the decision. He was detained for five more months before he found legal help and a judge ordered his case dropped.




  1. jbenson2 says:

    The B.S. meter should be used here. A very one-sided report from a San Francisco paper. Is there anything in San Francisco that is not?

    No mention of what the mistake was that caused Veloz to be considered an illegal immigrant.

    9 months to get his birth certificate and papers? Come on! A letter to the town officials along with money for the fee and one week later you’ve got the paperwork.

    No reporting on what the ICE folks had to say about the case?

    Yup, this smells very fishy.

  2. jbenson2 says:

    Time to eat some crow. After plowing further through the story, I found the reasons for the detention.

    Before his birth, Veloz’s U.S.-born father was sent to Vietnam, so his pregnant mother stayed with relatives in Mexico and Veloz was born there. Months later, the family returned to the United States and has lived here since.

    Veloz was automatically a citizen at birth, though his parents never obtained his certificate of citizenship.

    In 2006, Veloz was convicted of receiving stolen property after purchasing a car that had been stolen. He served eight months and was about to be released from prison when he was turned over to ICE.

    This still smells very fishy.

  3. Dale says:

    See next comment.

  4. Dale says:

    Thanks for the background research jbenson2. Sad DU is crowdsourcing to get both sides of an issue posted.

  5. chuck says:

    In a related story, after months of failing to produce a genuine birth certificate, President Obama will be deported to Kenya next week.

  6. Oscar says:

    I can understand why he was in prison for failure to produce proof of being a natural born citizen. What I cannot understand is why Obama STILL cannot produce documentation proving his status as a natural born citizen.

  7. Raff says:

    Born in East L.A.

  8. Benjamin says:

    There ought to be a way to fast track US Citizens out of ICE courts. Reading into the article one woman found it easier just to be deported to Honduras and get a US Passport to come back at the embassy then to sit in jail until she got a chance to prove she was a US citizen in an ICE court.

  9. Jägermeister says:

    #4 – chuck

    Wishful thinking. Use your brain… even 25% of it… Do you think that the Democratic Party would jeopardize their entire future on such a basic thing as eligibility of their presidential candidate?

  10. Jim says:

    #4 #5, it’s been proven, multiple times, and stated by the governor of Hawaii not to mention several independent HI newspapers that had the birth announcement.

    So shut the hell up. Get a life. All that stuff we say to idiots.

  11. chuck says:

    #8,9, etc – It was a joke.

  12. dcphill says:

    I firmly believe that this could happen to any one of us. What is it about a birthcertificate
    that guarantees citizenship? How do you prove it is yours? Everything is built on trust, but
    ICE does not act on trust.Maybe we should all have a ID microchip implanted at birth. But I think even that can be faked. Not everybody has
    verifiable citizenship records readily available. Think about it….if you have an accent, are slightly off color or look foreign
    you could be an easy target. What can you do to prove unequivagbly your citizenship?

  13. jbenson2 says:

    #12 I agree. This could happen to anyone who is born in Mexico and stays there with relatives while his father is in Vietnam and his mother doesn’t bother to get a certificate of citizenship. And then later on in life, he steals a car and spends almost a year in prison. And then takes 9 months to get the paperwork.

    Yup, this could happen to anyone.

  14. Grandpa says:

    Of course. Further proof that we shouldn’t deport good people trying to provide for their families.

  15. Jimilu says:

    That is what happen when you detain people just because the way the look. I am sure mister Veloz doesn’t has blue eyes.

  16. Angel H. Wong says:

    For some strange reason I doubt this will ever happen to white people.

  17. Publius says:

    Quit yer lying birthers. You sound like the dogs you are, barking at each other’s phantoms. If you were any more intelligent, you would be my bitch.

    111th CONGRESS
    1st Session

    H. RES. 593

    Passed on July 27 2009 by full US House of Representatives

    RESOLUTION
    Recognizing and celebrating the 50th Anniversary of the entry of Hawaii into the Union as the 50th State.

    Whereas August 21, 2009, marks the 50th Anniversary of President Dwight D. Eisenhower’s signing of Proclamation 3309, which admitted Hawaii into the Union in compliance with the Hawaii Admission Act, enacted by the United States Congress on March 18, 1959;

    Whereas Hawaii is `a place like no other, with a people like no other’ and bridges the mainland United States to the Asia-Pacific region;

    Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii;

  18. Mr. Fusion says:

    And the right wing nuts still don’t believe the police ever lie. If a cop said it, then it must be so, regardless of any other evidence.

  19. Cap'nKangaroo says:

    #18 And what if a cop said O.J. was innocent? Cranial meltdowns would ensue.

  20. Mr. Fusion says:

    #19, Cap’n

    Then you would have Boss Limpdick telling us how that cop is a CINO. Cop In Name Only.



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