Comments on: FCC To Investigate Apple’s App Store Practices http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/01/fcc-to-investigate-apples-app-store-practices/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:19:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mr. Fusion http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/01/fcc-to-investigate-apples-app-store-practices/comment-page-2/#comment-1559043 Mr. Fusion Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:27:26 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=54485#comment-1559043 #19, nos, <i>Microsoft got in big trouble for simply including their browser with their OS</i> Not quite. They got into big trouble for including their browser and penalizing any OEM that included Netscape along with Windows. This is called "restraint of trade" and is illegal. People would have to d/l a version of Netscape on their own. D/l a 25+ mb app over dial-up was not a quick, easy endeavor. <i>Imagine if all software on your PC had to be approved by Microsoft, </i> MicroSoft did control who got access to the source code and could tie their apps to Windows. Part of the Trust agreement was to allow more access without restrictions. #19, nos,

Microsoft got in big trouble for simply including their browser with their OS

Not quite. They got into big trouble for including their browser and penalizing any OEM that included Netscape along with Windows. This is called “restraint of trade” and is illegal. People would have to d/l a version of Netscape on their own. D/l a 25+ mb app over dial-up was not a quick, easy endeavor.

Imagine if all software on your PC had to be approved by Microsoft,

MicroSoft did control who got access to the source code and could tie their apps to Windows. Part of the Trust agreement was to allow more access without restrictions.

]]> By: JimD http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/01/fcc-to-investigate-apples-app-store-practices/comment-page-2/#comment-1558836 JimD Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:47:26 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=54485#comment-1558836 This is what happens when you enter Steve's "Reality Distortion Field" and "Drink the Kool-aid" !!! Just remember to HAND OVER YOUR WALLET ON THE WAY IN !!! This is what happens when you enter Steve’s “Reality Distortion Field” and “Drink the Kool-aid” !!! Just remember to HAND OVER YOUR WALLET ON THE WAY IN !!!

]]> By: Mr. Fusion http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/01/fcc-to-investigate-apples-app-store-practices/comment-page-2/#comment-1558820 Mr. Fusion Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:20:57 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=54485#comment-1558820 #21, KMART, Finding another phone is a great idea. Then Apple and AT&T can go find another wave length. Currently, ALL wavelengths belong to the people. They are divided up according to FCC regulations and oversight. If you don't like the FCC regulations for public airwaves, go find your own. #21, KMART,

Finding another phone is a great idea. Then Apple and AT&T can go find another wave length.

Currently, ALL wavelengths belong to the people. They are divided up according to FCC regulations and oversight. If you don’t like the FCC regulations for public airwaves, go find your own.

]]> By: pedro http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/01/fcc-to-investigate-apples-app-store-practices/comment-page-2/#comment-1558746 pedro Sun, 02 Aug 2009 11:16:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=54485#comment-1558746 #21 That's what I say. But there are so many dimwits and masochists around these days that being abused seems a plus rather than an issue. #21 That’s what I say. But there are so many dimwits and masochists around these days that being abused seems a plus rather than an issue.

]]> By: KMFIX http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/01/fcc-to-investigate-apples-app-store-practices/comment-page-2/#comment-1558737 KMFIX Sun, 02 Aug 2009 09:51:43 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=54485#comment-1558737 Their hardware... Their choice. Don't like it.. Choose another phone. Their hardware… Their choice.

Don’t like it.. Choose another phone.

]]> By: Uncle Patso http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/01/fcc-to-investigate-apples-app-store-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-1558691 Uncle Patso Sun, 02 Aug 2009 05:16:00 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=54485#comment-1558691 #9 pecker mentioned "traditional circuit-switched voice" as though it were a dinosaur. Well, I'll say this about that dinosaur: it's about a hundred times more reliable all the rest. I always make sure to have a phone line powered in the house. During the big ice storm last winter and the windstorm last fall (remnants of Hurricane Ike), power was out to hundreds of thousands, cell towers lost power, DSL connections were out, but our phone always worked. When one of our ISP's servers died, when the entire 'net was sluggish, our phone still worked. For the best odds of being able to reach somebody in a time of crisis, keep a wireline connection and a line-powered phone handy. #9 pecker mentioned “traditional circuit-switched voice” as though it were a dinosaur. Well, I’ll say this about that dinosaur: it’s about a hundred times more reliable all the rest. I always make sure to have a phone line powered in the house. During the big ice storm last winter and the windstorm last fall (remnants of Hurricane Ike), power was out to hundreds of thousands, cell towers lost power, DSL connections were out, but our phone always worked. When one of our ISP’s servers died, when the entire ‘net was sluggish, our phone still worked.

For the best odds of being able to reach somebody in a time of crisis, keep a wireline connection and a line-powered phone handy.

]]> By: ahtnos http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/01/fcc-to-investigate-apples-app-store-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-1558603 ahtnos Sun, 02 Aug 2009 00:28:35 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=54485#comment-1558603 Somebody needs to look into the app store. Microsoft got in big trouble for simply including their browser with their OS. Imagine if all software on your PC had to be approved by Microsoft, sold through Microsoft, and Microsoft would get a cut of everything. It would be ridiculous. Granted, Apple doesn't have a hugely dominant market share in the smart phone market. However, that doesn't make what Apple's doing any better. Somebody needs to look into the app store. Microsoft got in big trouble for simply including their browser with their OS. Imagine if all software on your PC had to be approved by Microsoft, sold through Microsoft, and Microsoft would get a cut of everything. It would be ridiculous. Granted, Apple doesn’t have a hugely dominant market share in the smart phone market. However, that doesn’t make what Apple’s doing any better.

]]> By: deowll http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/01/fcc-to-investigate-apples-app-store-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-1558536 deowll Sat, 01 Aug 2009 20:57:39 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=54485#comment-1558536 # 16 nailed it plus one more factor. When you are a dominant player in any market they start looking to see if you are acting in an anticompetitive manner and if you are they are supposed to kick you in the privates hard enough you change your ways. They almost never do this especially if you are a small player but it looks like Apple just made the big time. Way to go Apple! # 16 nailed it plus one more factor. When you are a dominant player in any market they start looking to see if you are acting in an anticompetitive manner and if you are they are supposed to kick you in the privates hard enough you change your ways.

They almost never do this especially if you are a small player but it looks like Apple just made the big time. Way to go Apple!

]]> By: Special Ed http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/01/fcc-to-investigate-apples-app-store-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-1558491 Special Ed Sat, 01 Aug 2009 20:01:08 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=54485#comment-1558491 FCC? Big whoop, may as well be KFC. FCC? Big whoop, may as well be KFC.

]]> By: Dan McDermott http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/01/fcc-to-investigate-apples-app-store-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-1558486 Dan McDermott Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:46:36 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=54485#comment-1558486 Because the I-Phone is a device that operates on the AT&T wireless network which is licensed by the FCC. If this were a game on a GameBoy it would be a different situation. But there is a limited amount of spectrum available and AT&T has a license for a part of it. There are certain obligations, regulations and responsibilities that come with that. Not everyone can build out a wireless network. This is like the regulation of TV and Radio stations versus the complete non-regulation of newspapers. You can have an unlimited number of newspapers but there are only so many broadcast channels. The FCC wants to know if a dominant wireless phone company is using its power and its percentage of the limited amount of spectrum to keep out innovation and competition. Personally, I hope they get hammered and all their responses are released. Because the I-Phone is a device that operates on the AT&T wireless network which is licensed by the FCC. If this were a game on a GameBoy it would be a different situation. But there is a limited amount of spectrum available and AT&T has a license for a part of it. There are certain obligations, regulations and responsibilities that come with that. Not everyone can build out a wireless network. This is like the regulation of TV and Radio stations versus the complete non-regulation of newspapers. You can have an unlimited number of newspapers but there are only so many broadcast channels.

The FCC wants to know if a dominant wireless phone company is using its power and its percentage of the limited amount of spectrum to keep out innovation and competition.

Personally, I hope they get hammered and all their responses are released.

]]> By: Rich http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/01/fcc-to-investigate-apples-app-store-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-1558484 Rich Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:34:36 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=54485#comment-1558484 Pecker stole my thunder. I don't know why the FCC would have authority here. the F "T" C, possibly. Pecker stole my thunder. I don’t know why the FCC would have authority here. the F “T” C, possibly.

]]> By: pedro http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/01/fcc-to-investigate-apples-app-store-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-1558478 pedro Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:15:22 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=54485#comment-1558478 Great. Pound on mac! The only thing I have to wonder, isn't a Google exec also a mac exec? Just sayin' #8 Wow! You get the fastest dignity loss macfan award. Great. Pound on mac! The only thing I have to wonder, isn’t a Google exec also a mac exec? Just sayin’

#8 Wow! You get the fastest dignity loss macfan award.

]]> By: JimR http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/01/fcc-to-investigate-apples-app-store-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-1558476 JimR Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:09:11 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=54485#comment-1558476 Bottom line...“What are the standards for considering and approving iPhone applications?" If they said that they only consider applications that don't compete with their own business applications, present and future, would that be enough? Bottom line…“What are the standards for considering and approving iPhone applications?”

If they said that they only consider applications that don’t compete with their own business applications, present and future, would that be enough?

]]> By: Jason http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/01/fcc-to-investigate-apples-app-store-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-1558457 Jason Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:11:02 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=54485#comment-1558457 Because as naive or idealistic as it sounds, they MUST be taken to task as what better place to start than Apple. The ultimate crux of this issue is that the old guard are flipping terrified of the fact that data is data is data. Be it SMS, voice on a digital network or TV and internet. Where the cost to route raw data is so low and so much easier to upgrade capacity, they are going to lose their goose of golden eggs and they will be damned if they will walk away without a fight. In a perfect world, we should pay, maybe $100 per month for EVERYTHING (Wireless and wireline, long distance or not) and there should be no limits on usage and no DPI or QoS. Because as naive or idealistic as it sounds, they MUST be taken to task as what better place to start than Apple.

The ultimate crux of this issue is that the old guard are flipping terrified of the fact that data is data is data. Be it SMS, voice on a digital network or TV and internet. Where the cost to route raw data is so low and so much easier to upgrade capacity, they are going to lose their goose of golden eggs and they will be damned if they will walk away without a fight.

In a perfect world, we should pay, maybe $100 per month for EVERYTHING (Wireless and wireline, long distance or not) and there should be no limits on usage and no DPI or QoS.

]]> By: moss http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/01/fcc-to-investigate-apples-app-store-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-1558455 moss Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:51:48 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=54485#comment-1558455 Why should any company have to answer a question like this? Why should any company have to answer a question like this?

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