Does Fox need Obama in office for good ratings?

Published on August 16th, 2009

Judging by the escalating boos and catcalls, squirting lighter fluid on burning coals would have been wiser. Beck is a hero to many people who are not buying the Age of Obama, and so is Fox. The network was already on pace for its best ratings year even before the health care debate sent viewership jumping during a traditionally slow month for news.

Fox’s viewership is up 11 percent over last year, according to Nielsen Media Research. CNN and MSNBC, which benefited from interest in the campaign last year, are down. O’Reilly, who already had cable news’ most popular show, Beck and Sean Hannity lead the way.

“Who’s that going to help?” O’Reilly said. “Us, that’s who. Our ratings are already soaring because we don’t denigrate the protesters, the way a lot of other TV news organizations do. They’re dying. We’re on fire.”

The US population is generally center-to-right and they are basically the only ones criticizing the government, so this is expected.

I consider myself a pro-liberty conservative, but Fox’s hosts are just nut-cases that contradict themselves.

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# 1 bobbo, its a zero sum game said, on August 16th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

If you don’t read a book or magazine beyond “Guns and Ammo” for the pictures, what else is left?

TV and Radio.

It all makes perfect sense and would be rather sad any other way.

This could all be rationally accounted for: come election time, your vote counts one half less for each year that you have not read a book.

Elitist? Well, yes, but I got the idea from watching Glenn Beck.

# 2 Bob said, on August 16th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

For the most part, the mainstream media contributed in large part to getting Obama elected. Now that he is in, they don’t want to say bad things about him, unless they really, really have to.

So here comes fox news, whos news reporting is to the right of center (and commentary that is right wing), while every other major new media is full on left wing loonys. The result is that the center and right go to the channel that’s not a cheer leader for the current administration, and the other channels are left with the left wingers.

Since their are more Right Wingers and Center’s, then Left Wingers, you have a situation where fox news ratings go up.

# 3 Dall said, on August 16th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

Guilherme, are you new to Dvorak Uncensored? I’m just wondering who’s this person who’s writing so frequently now.

# 4 Mr Diesel said, on August 16th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

Actually I watch several news programs but Fox seems to be the only one where they will actually provide both sides of the issue. Yes, they are skewed to the right but at least they will put both sides up to discuss things. MSM is just one big love fest for Obomba.

I have not seen one of them get a thrill running up their leg………..

# 5 Reganvelter said, on August 16th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

C’mon the last thing these Dipshits need is encouragement.
The only thing that motivates them is the thought of sobering up and finding work.

# 6 BryanP said, on August 16th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

Like them or not, Fox had excellent ratings scores all throughout the Bush presidency. So the answer is no.

#1, If you don’t read a book or magazine beyond “Guns and Ammo” for the pictures, what else is left?

Ah yes, I forgot that anyone who disagrees with the current administration about anything at all is an illiterate boob clinging to their guns & religion.

Okay, I’ll admit to the guns part. Got no use for religion. And I think after the last purge to reclaim space I finally have the book total down under 3000.

Besides, G&A is really only good for the pictures. Like any big magazine they won’t say anything negative about the advertisers, so the reviews aren’t all that useful.

# 7 Howard Beale said, on August 16th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

Of course having Obama in the Whitehouse helps FNC.
Those who don’t want impartial news but just want the shop around to find a channel that will reaffirm what they want to believe only have Fox. Most of the rest have more fair and balance editing but you might have your views challenged. Don’t worry it’s only TV news none of them will ask you to think. If you are on the Left and want your beliefs reaffirm there’s MSNBC but most on the left consider many viewpoints and make up there own minds finding MSNBC to full of them themselves. For some reason Fox viewers are Ok with Fox being patronizing. I guess they like being spoon feed their Kool-Aid

# 8 Ranger007 said, on August 16th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

#4 said “I have not seen one of them get a thrill running up their leg……….”

and then to be fair and balanced

#5 said “C’mon the last thing these Dipshits need is encouragement. The only thing that motivates them is the thought of sobering up and finding work.”

# 9 nospam said, on August 16th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

Nice to see fox and the GOP back to pretending to be for smaller, less intrusive government again. Of course it’s a lie, but then so is most of what obama says.

# 10 vw said, on August 16th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

Seems to me that Fox was dominating ratings even when Bush was in office, so uhhh NO

@nospam: righton brotha.

# 11 Reganvelter said, on August 16th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

I don’t wish to be fair and balanced.
What I meant to say was:

The only thing that motivates them is the fear of sobering up and finding work.

Funny that Palin,the GOP and Blue Dogs were for Corporate Death Panels but started the Government Death Panel myth as a scare tactic to get Grandma off the blue and orange flowered strato lounger and down to the local GOP headquarters to get on the short bus to the townhall meeting.
That is fair and balanced,right?

# 12 Dallas said, on August 16th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

I watch Fox every once in a while to see what brands to avoid.

# 13 Faxon said, on August 16th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

I don’t watch television for news at all. I work for television news, and it is all shit.

# 14 Olo Baggins of Bywater said, on August 16th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

Faxon…then you’re safe watching Fox, no news there, just constant commentary.

# 15 bobbo, the best reason to watch Faux said, on August 16th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

is so that you can understand Olbermann’s rants.

That and the babes. Nice to see well spoken hot young babes on TV giving some version of the news. Also funny to see them go into that 1000 mile stare when not repeating what comes across their ear pieces.

Tv just really doesn’t get any better.

# 16 Guilherme Cherman said, on August 16th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

#3, I am a new editor here.

# 17 bobbo, wisdom comes with age said, on August 16th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

#16–Guilherme==yes, welcome. Only a new editor would respond to criticism regardless of validity. There is a half-life of about 2 weeks before you will Imperiously ignore your readers and then actually intend to mislead.

Enjoy.

# 18 bac said, on August 16th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

Well, now that bobbo has spoken the new editor pattern, there goes the betting pool.

# 19 Dallas said, on August 16th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

I hope Eidard is still around as he had it together. But welcome Guilherme.

Are Eidard and Guilherme real names? Just asking as they sound very mythical in a Jason and the Argonauts sort of way.

# 20 Jim w. said, on August 16th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

no, but MSNBC at least and maybe CNN apparently need a Bush in office to get ratings.

(no puns or sophomoric jokes intended)

# 21 Hugh Ripper said, on August 16th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

Network news is an abomination in all forms. My only interest is in its deconstruction.

# 22 Paul Camp said, on August 16th, 2009 at 6:19 pm

“The US population is generally center-to-right”

And your evidence for that is . . . ?

Certainly not the results of the last two elections. They say center left.

# 23 jbenson2 said, on August 16th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

Fox blew out the competition during the Bush era as well.

The major difference is the public is beginning to see the shoddy and biased reporting done by the other media.

# 24 Olo Baggins of Bywater said, on August 16th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

Probably the only comparison is Limbaugh. His ratings dipped during GWB. They spiked when a black man became president.

# 25 Olo Baggins of Bywater said, on August 16th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

jbenson, I dispute that. The last place in the world you can get accurate information about anything is Fox.

# 26 Jägermeister said, on August 16th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

Does Fox need Obama in office for good ratings?

No, because Fox News cater to simpletons. In other words, they’re just watering down reality and twist it a couple times to fit the average American simpleton. And as many people have already pointed out… They did well during the Bush regime as well.

#17 – bobbo – There is a half-life of about 2 weeks before you will Imperiously ignore your readers and then actually intend to mislead.

LMAO

# 27 jbenson2 said, on August 16th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

#25 – Olo Baggins of Bywater

So you are concerned about accuracy. What media do you rely on?

The Messiah worshippers like MSNBC, CNN, NY Times, ABC, CBS, NBC?

# 28 qb said, on August 16th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

It’s all about the bimbos in miniskirts trying not to flash themselves in front of the camera. It’s a day long college drinking game.

# 29 Olo Baggins of Bywater said, on August 16th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

jbenson…”messiah worshippers”? Is that code for “everything other than Fox”?

# 30 GetSmart said, on August 16th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

POX Noise is just catering to the 75% on the left side of the Bell Curve.

# 31 Glenn E. said, on August 16th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

All these fans of FNC have to do is wait 3.5 more years, until they can elect a more fascist dictator to their liking. And then all these self-righteous republican conservatives can bask in the glory of having another Hitler in office. Then Fox News and all will truly be proud to call themselves an Amerikkkan.

I believe more republicans have just been so brainwashed to think of any Democratic president as the Anti-Christ, that they wouldn’t accept even the whitest, most god espousing democratic candidate for the office. They’d rather have the devil incarnate, as president. As long as he or she was a true blue Republican. As if what stupid party, any of these clowns happens to below to at the time, makes the least bit difference. But that’s what the American voter has come to. They vote for a label, a brand name. Because real issues, seem to be beyond their understanding. Especially a lot of the elder, who just throw their hands up and vote their party because they always have.

I’ve given up on the whole electoral system, as it’s mostly a pointless waste of time. And whoever gets in office will simply end up doing whatever the most powerful lobbies tell them that they better do (or get wacked!). Right now, Obama is trying to figure out how to get out of all those reforms he promised. By going to a lot of places where they hate his guts, and refute his plans. So he can soon say, “The American people don’t want cheap health care. So I won’t pursue it.” It would be nice if these Town Halls had more of the millions of uninsured, that would like to see some basic coverage, that shouldn’t interfere with the Private Insurance’s bottom line, too much. But it looks like they’re mainly populated by those that have the income and a good private plan, that they can afford the time to show up and scream about others getting a freebie on their backs.

Maybe these idiots ought to get a little history education. It was the untreated poor that spread the plagues of Europe and England. Yeah, do nothing. Oppose everything. And sit back and wait for the next population wipeout, to come our way. Because it will eventually come. And all the super expensive private health care plans won’t stop it. As long as a 20% of the population can’t afford anything.

# 32 Great American said, on August 16th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

#30

The left side of the bell curve would be the lower 50%.

I think you meant “below the 75th percentile”.

# 33 Common_Sense said, on August 16th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

In a country roughly split 50-50 on political bent, when the majority of people can’t be bothered to THINK for themselves and see the world is never as black and white as the zealots on any side would have you believe…

An extreme right-winger has just one news station that is going to represent their views.

An extreme left-winger can pretty much be satisfied with the coverage from any of CNN, MSNBC, BBC… (More and more, the left wing zealots are going to end up at MSNBC though, because Olbie and Maddow are taking cues from the right-wing group on how to spoonfeed your base what it wants to hear.

As a result, FOX viewership is going to beat the others, and probably will for some time, regardless of who is President.

Now, I’ll be honest – my political bent is pretty sympathetic to Olberman and Maddow, but I actually watch FOX news almost as much (and prefer CNN to both). God forbid we challenge ourselves with someone else’s views. I’d watch them both more if they made an attempt at the truth instead of packaging neatly digestible morsels to one side or the other…

Blah, now I’m going to bed depressed.

# 34 Somebody said, on August 16th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

“Are Eidard and Guilherme real names?”

’bout as real as Corbin Dallas.

# 35 eaglescout1998 said, on August 17th, 2009 at 12:08 am

# 22 The reason why Republicans have been defeated in the last few elections is because they have been governing like Democrats. If given the choice between a watered-down version of a Democrat and the genuine article, voters will choose the latter every time.

The other problem with the GOP is that they have been operating on the premise that if they pander the the elusive “independent voter”, they will win more votes. Occasionally commentators will say that to win the primaries a candidate must pander to the extremes — the extreme left for Democrats and the extreme right for Republicans — but that to win in the general election he must move back to the center. This tactic seems to work for Democrats. With the possible exception of Obama, when Democrats ran as liberals, they lost. When they ran as moderates, they won. However, the same cannot be said for Republicans. Republicans have historically lost elections when their nominees ran as moderates (ie. John McCain, Bob Dole). Ronald Reagan was the most conservative candidate in my lifetime and he won the biggest landslide in American political history.

# 36 bobbo, forever trapped in the Scouts said, on August 17th, 2009 at 12:17 am

#35–eagle==what badge are you working towards?

Being able to handle more than one variable per issue? Recall your fire starting badge? You needed two sticks but then you had to rub real fast. That was TWO variables. Most issues have more than one variable.

Keep working. That sash looks good on you.

# 37 Perwinkle said, on August 17th, 2009 at 3:38 am

I make a point of watching both Fox and MSNBC in the morning hoping between them I would get some of kind the truth. However if you want to see a one sided, biased, brain dead, biased liberal rant, watch MSNBC at night. It is state owned television at its best. There is no alternative views allowed. There is a constant bashing of Fox and middle America to the point it makes me laugh. I hope GE gets its Obama blood money for selling their integrity,they deserve it.

# 38 Mr. Fusion said, on August 17th, 2009 at 3:43 am

FOX SPEWS appeals to those who don’t like to think, those who need their hatred stoked periodically. Does FOX even have any reporters on staff?

CNN presents balanced news coverage, but then they bog down with too many pundits who don’t know any other type of work than trying to explain something with a different twist than the jerk beside them.

MSNBC is similar to CNN only they use babes to present their news.

CNBC and FBC are keep flipping spots on the TV guide.

The Major TV News reports are all pretty good, although the best is FOX doesn’t have one.

# 39 Olo Baggins of Bywater said, on August 17th, 2009 at 4:32 am

#37 periwinkle…I’m curious…what do you think of the Dumb and Dumber and Dumberer show on Fox in the mornings?

# 40 bobbo, we'll never get an answer but, said, on August 17th, 2009 at 6:45 am

#37–periwinkle==I’ll be shocked if you can respond at all, but being fair and balanced and all: can you give an example of a rant that you thought was brain dead?

On the other hand, I agree with you that several rants I have seen were one sided, liberal, and biased. I recall the subjects were torture is bad, tax cuts aren’t the answer to every issue, and religion should not be substituted for science. What opposing view do you think should have been added to approach “the truth.”

Hmmmmmmm?

# 41 BigBoyBC said, on August 17th, 2009 at 8:28 am

Fox must be doing something right, they have all you jerk-offs watching them…

What? You don’t watch them? Then you’re not qualified to judge them ARE YOU!!!

# 42 gmknobl said, on August 17th, 2009 at 10:31 am

I don’t believe your statement that the U.S. population is generally center to right. By whose biased polls?

Fox sucks rotten eggs for all the lies they tell and promulgate and to a lesser extent, so do other media outlets since the age of the fairness doctrine went away and yellow journalistic sensationalist seeking owners got to do what they wanted but that doesn’t excuse inaccurate or incorrect claims such as this one.

# 43 GetSmart said, on August 17th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

#32
There’s at least 75% percent of the population on the left side of the curve’s peak.
That bell is looking a tad deformed these days.

# 44 Angel H. Wong said, on August 17th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

Hahaw! I was right all along. The best thing that could happen to conservative media was for Obama to win the presidential election. Everyone at the end of the Bush Jr. was tired of listening conservative TV/Radio hosts treating people who disagreed with Cheney/Rove as traitors to the U.S. nation.

# 45 Gawdmachine said, on August 18th, 2009 at 9:06 am

To think that Fox or MSNBC (or anyone else on MSM) will give you factual reporting is to live a lie.

I’m having trouble finding one talking head anywhere that isn’t deserving of the label, “traitor.”

# 46 Uncle Patso said, on August 18th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

Dallas asks: “Are Eidard and Guilherme real names?”

I have no idea about Eideard, but Guilherme looks to me like a form of William. In Spanish there is Guillermo, in Italian Guglielmo and so on.

So Welcome, Bill!

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