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	<title>Comments on: Fox News &#8220;expert&#8221; blatantly lies about government sites&#8217; cookies saying they track your online behavior</title>
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		<title>By: b. brooklyn</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/18/fox-news-expert-blatantly-lies-about-government-sites-cookies-saying-it-tracks-your-online-behaviour/comment-page-5/#comment-1568697</link>
		<dc:creator>b. brooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m not a cookie expert by any means. But that fact that it is so easy to track what a person is doing or has done online these days is kind of scary. I’d like to hear it from people who are confirmed &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.civicplus.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;government website experts&lt;/a&gt;. You can’t believe everything you read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m not a cookie expert by any means. But that fact that it is so easy to track what a person is doing or has done online these days is kind of scary. I’d like to hear it from people who are confirmed <a href="http://www.civicplus.com/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">government website experts</a>. You can’t believe everything you read.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve R.</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/18/fox-news-expert-blatantly-lies-about-government-sites-cookies-saying-it-tracks-your-online-behaviour/comment-page-5/#comment-1568142</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Fox news &quot;interview&quot; was nothing more than a hysterical red-herring concerning the potential for government intervention. It amazes me how Fox news whines about the the government invading your privacy but then is totally silent on private corporations that invade your privacy. 

If our nation is based on equality before the law, private industry should be condemned for its inappropriate actions too. Cookies, no matter where they are left, can be used to track our actions on the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fox news &#8220;interview&#8221; was nothing more than a hysterical red-herring concerning the potential for government intervention. It amazes me how Fox news whines about the the government invading your privacy but then is totally silent on private corporations that invade your privacy. </p>
<p>If our nation is based on equality before the law, private industry should be condemned for its inappropriate actions too. Cookies, no matter where they are left, can be used to track our actions on the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: RobertSiciliano</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/18/fox-news-expert-blatantly-lies-about-government-sites-cookies-saying-it-tracks-your-online-behaviour/comment-page-5/#comment-1567453</link>
		<dc:creator>RobertSiciliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Siciliano character is me:).

johnhattan said, I just twittered that this Siciliano guy is an asshat with no credentials, and he started @replying me back defending himself, claiming that his statement is putting things in “perspective” for the masses. JCD, you have GOT to invite this guy on your show. He’d be a bigger train-wreck than that kid who walked around with a webcam taped to his head. 

John, a mans words in a public forum make up the base of his character. You certainly have character.

Its obvious in this post that the originator of the post took much of what what said out of context only to spark a Perez Hilton like assault. You should be proud of such a profound rag with journalistic integrity. Those who actually watched the clip and understood its premise thoughtfully and correctly fleshed out the actual meaning of it and made sense.

First, Ive never claimed to be anything I&#039;m not. I know more than 90 percent of what the the masses know and less than 10 percent of what the experts know. My game is personal security as it relates to violence and identity theft prevention. And before you all go demonizing a simple 3 minute talk, I was being objective. I was helping the commentator sort this out. I was talking about what privacy advocates fear, not myself. I&#039;m no privacy advocate. Requests to appear in front of a nationwide audience of non-techies generally requires to the commentator to associate an unknown with a known. Most people dont speak the tech language and need something to associate with. I specifically said that cookies aren&#039;t spyware. &quot;They are spywares closest cousin.&quot; Which is what privacy advocates fear. Not me. It may have satisfied you all a bit more if I said spywares 10th cousin, but when you are in this environment and the clock is ticking, sometimes one forgets all their talking points or things don&#039;t always come out exactly correct. So forgive me, forgive my offspring, and forgive the non techies for not knowing what you know. 

Further..I made an analogy that provides perspective to an audience that otherwise has none, pointing out what &quot;privacy advocates fear&quot;. I could give a crap that cookies are in govt websites. I love cookies. Makes my life a lot easier. And their yummy. The ACLU and the Electronic Frontier Foundation are the ones freaking out and maybe suing, not me. I was explaining their concerns, not mine.

Thanks for this post, thanks for setting the record straight and thanks for keeping me and everyone else honest.

Feel free to subscribe to my blog, follow me on Twitter and continually pick me apart like the National Enquirer does every public figure. I promise to give you something to bitch about.

Robert Siciliano CEO IDTheftSecurity.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Siciliano character is me:).</p>
<p>johnhattan said, I just twittered that this Siciliano guy is an asshat with no credentials, and he started @replying me back defending himself, claiming that his statement is putting things in “perspective” for the masses. JCD, you have GOT to invite this guy on your show. He’d be a bigger train-wreck than that kid who walked around with a webcam taped to his head. </p>
<p>John, a mans words in a public forum make up the base of his character. You certainly have character.</p>
<p>Its obvious in this post that the originator of the post took much of what what said out of context only to spark a Perez Hilton like assault. You should be proud of such a profound rag with journalistic integrity. Those who actually watched the clip and understood its premise thoughtfully and correctly fleshed out the actual meaning of it and made sense.</p>
<p>First, Ive never claimed to be anything I&#8217;m not. I know more than 90 percent of what the the masses know and less than 10 percent of what the experts know. My game is personal security as it relates to violence and identity theft prevention. And before you all go demonizing a simple 3 minute talk, I was being objective. I was helping the commentator sort this out. I was talking about what privacy advocates fear, not myself. I&#8217;m no privacy advocate. Requests to appear in front of a nationwide audience of non-techies generally requires to the commentator to associate an unknown with a known. Most people dont speak the tech language and need something to associate with. I specifically said that cookies aren&#8217;t spyware. &#8220;They are spywares closest cousin.&#8221; Which is what privacy advocates fear. Not me. It may have satisfied you all a bit more if I said spywares 10th cousin, but when you are in this environment and the clock is ticking, sometimes one forgets all their talking points or things don&#8217;t always come out exactly correct. So forgive me, forgive my offspring, and forgive the non techies for not knowing what you know. </p>
<p>Further..I made an analogy that provides perspective to an audience that otherwise has none, pointing out what &#8220;privacy advocates fear&#8221;. I could give a crap that cookies are in govt websites. I love cookies. Makes my life a lot easier. And their yummy. The ACLU and the Electronic Frontier Foundation are the ones freaking out and maybe suing, not me. I was explaining their concerns, not mine.</p>
<p>Thanks for this post, thanks for setting the record straight and thanks for keeping me and everyone else honest.</p>
<p>Feel free to subscribe to my blog, follow me on Twitter and continually pick me apart like the National Enquirer does every public figure. I promise to give you something to bitch about.</p>
<p>Robert Siciliano CEO IDTheftSecurity.com</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Cain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All these advanced cookie tracking methods can easily be bypassed by the wearing of a tinfoil hat.

Works for republicans, it can work for you too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All these advanced cookie tracking methods can easily be bypassed by the wearing of a tinfoil hat.</p>
<p>Works for republicans, it can work for you too.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#80 Sai Kai Lee

They can only track you on sites that they have trackers on.  They can not track you if you go to a site that doesn&#039;t have their stuff. Site A can&#039;t track you to Site B unless Site B is using the same tracking cookies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#80 Sai Kai Lee</p>
<p>They can only track you on sites that they have trackers on.  They can not track you if you go to a site that doesn&#8217;t have their stuff. Site A can&#8217;t track you to Site B unless Site B is using the same tracking cookies.</p>
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		<title>By: Timuchin</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/18/fox-news-expert-blatantly-lies-about-government-sites-cookies-saying-it-tracks-your-online-behaviour/comment-page-5/#comment-1566484</link>
		<dc:creator>Timuchin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it!  Try to rally the liberals and leftists by getting them to hate the same target.  You need the unity to restore Democratic party cohesion.  Otherwise they will hate each other and destroy the Democratic party.

Is the Democratic party a hate group?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s it!  Try to rally the liberals and leftists by getting them to hate the same target.  You need the unity to restore Democratic party cohesion.  Otherwise they will hate each other and destroy the Democratic party.</p>
<p>Is the Democratic party a hate group?</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/18/fox-news-expert-blatantly-lies-about-government-sites-cookies-saying-it-tracks-your-online-behaviour/comment-page-5/#comment-1566383</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#83 Yes, but they use faux cookies ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#83 Yes, but they use faux cookies <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: FRAGaLOT</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/18/fox-news-expert-blatantly-lies-about-government-sites-cookies-saying-it-tracks-your-online-behaviour/comment-page-5/#comment-1566366</link>
		<dc:creator>FRAGaLOT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t foxnews.com use cookies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t foxnews.com use cookies?</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo, I really hate to say this but</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo, I really hate to say this but</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It depends on how you define simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends on how you define simple.</p>
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		<title>By: qb</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/18/fox-news-expert-blatantly-lies-about-government-sites-cookies-saying-it-tracks-your-online-behaviour/comment-page-5/#comment-1566312</link>
		<dc:creator>qb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#81 And the real world is simple. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#81 And the real world is simple. <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bobbo, quibbling is for losers</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo, quibbling is for losers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#76--qb--you can imagine killer bunnies with chainsaws?  I can&#039;t.  But then my days are not filled by watching and believing the Cartoon Channel.

Sorry to have used a colloquialism you could quibble with.

Dolt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#76&#8211;qb&#8211;you can imagine killer bunnies with chainsaws?  I can&#8217;t.  But then my days are not filled by watching and believing the Cartoon Channel.</p>
<p>Sorry to have used a colloquialism you could quibble with.</p>
<p>Dolt.</p>
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		<title>By: Sai Kai Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sai Kai Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Third party cookies that get pulled from advertising sites CAN track where you go on the web, and more.

Cookies lie somewhere between the ridiculous extremes of &quot;totally benign&quot; and &quot;track everything you do&quot;. Just like most things in life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Third party cookies that get pulled from advertising sites CAN track where you go on the web, and more.</p>
<p>Cookies lie somewhere between the ridiculous extremes of &#8220;totally benign&#8221; and &#8220;track everything you do&#8221;. Just like most things in life.</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
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		<dc:creator>noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cookies are safe and &lt;a href=&quot;http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:Z3ItZ9NEhfQJ:crack0hack.wetpaint.com/page/Hacking%2BWeb%2BApplications%2BUsing%2BCookie%2BPoisoning+cookies+hack&amp;cd=5&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us&amp;client=firefox-a&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cookies&lt;/a&gt; are particularly good with milk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cookies are safe and <a href="http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:Z3ItZ9NEhfQJ:crack0hack.wetpaint.com/page/Hacking%2BWeb%2BApplications%2BUsing%2BCookie%2BPoisoning+cookies+hack&amp;cd=5&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us&amp;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Cookies</a> are particularly good with milk.</p>
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		<title>By: John Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What people don&#039;t realize is that companies use cookies to track what people do on that particular site. Seems harmless, but then the information is sold to companies who compile and link such information. 

Yes cookies only work to identify a user throughout a particular site, but by working across sites and compiling this information, advertisers do track more than you want.

Ie: time accessed page, time left page. Two sites share the info, make connection between two users. (ie, between google search, and a site using google ads).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What people don&#8217;t realize is that companies use cookies to track what people do on that particular site. Seems harmless, but then the information is sold to companies who compile and link such information. </p>
<p>Yes cookies only work to identify a user throughout a particular site, but by working across sites and compiling this information, advertisers do track more than you want.</p>
<p>Ie: time accessed page, time left page. Two sites share the info, make connection between two users. (ie, between google search, and a site using google ads).</p>
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		<title>By: johnhattan</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnhattan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just twittered that this Siciliano guy is an asshat with no credentials, and he started @replying me back defending himself, claiming that his statement is putting things in &quot;perspective&quot; for the masses.

JCD, you have GOT to invite this guy on your show. He&#039;d be a bigger train-wreck than that kid who walked around with a webcam taped to his head.

And he&#039;ll probably bring his own microphone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just twittered that this Siciliano guy is an asshat with no credentials, and he started @replying me back defending himself, claiming that his statement is putting things in &#8220;perspective&#8221; for the masses.</p>
<p>JCD, you have GOT to invite this guy on your show. He&#8217;d be a bigger train-wreck than that kid who walked around with a webcam taped to his head.</p>
<p>And he&#8217;ll probably bring his own microphone!</p>
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