If there were one Bill I could not like, that would be something. But the fact that there are half a dozen bills multiplies my reasons for not liking it by half a dozen. Obama is just doing that so he can get away with NOT passing what he’s preaching the bill is going to do and can blame congress. Otherwise his team would have actually authored the bill instead of having congress pass a six course pork feast.
I’ll grant you she’s pretty good at it. Her constant ingratiation is nauseating at best.
Fortunately Mr Stewart is the closest thing you see these days to an actual reporter. He’s actually done his homework – and it is truly a great thing to see.
I feel in no way sorry for her – didn’t she see Cramer? Ambition? Arrogance? Madness? How did she think she’d come off well is a mystery.
“I don’t like the bill, but it’s not because of this death panel BS.” -Guilherme Cherman
So this post was for what? Guilherme Cherman, you add nothing to this blog that the most moronic commentors don’t. You fan flames with emotional hyperbolic entries. Please keep your brand of intellectual input on twitter or myspace where it will fit right in.
It’s been my personal opinion for a long while that when given the opportunity to get real answers out of guests, Jon Stewart is one of the best, most well-informed interviewers in the news industry today.
He asks the right questions everyone wants to hear, he, like freddybob said, does his homework, he doesn’t take a fluff answer, and probably the most important reason, is that because the guest is on the Daily Show on Comedy Central, they don’t expect to being actually interviewed.
The only thing I’m sure of is when this is over, insurance companies and congressmen will still be getting rich and millions of Americans (like me) will still be uninsured and have poor quality health care. I expect all aspects of medical care to get worse and more expensive.
Death panels maybe not, but passive euthanasia certainly. Semantic difference to make it easier to swallow. It follows every Govt. run health care system. Recent examples: Canada counting people over 50 who die from refused treatment based on age/disease as dying of natural causes; Britain where ban was just issued on cancer drug that is known to extend life for 6 months, because of cost,…
My personal life examples from country who run such system: My father denied life saving kidney transplant, despite good medical prognosis as he was over 60. He survived until 64 on dialysis; My mother who died from ALS denied basic nursing care at age of 80, not worth spending “Govt.” money on as she should die soon, which she did under our own care. That waits for you too here in USA if you pick socialist path with many promises and nothing for it.
I don’t see what the problem is. If you contributed a LOT to society, then you can probably afford the health care to live forever. If you contributed a good deal to society, you probably have some form of health care with your employer.
If you contribute very little or nothing to society — you are old and sit around all day watching “programs” or you are an unemployed mooch your whole life — then obviously you don’t have health care, because you haven’t contributed anything worth getting health care (a solid quality job) and you live a shorter life.
I’m not saying that’s right or wrong, but that’s how it is and I don’t know anything more capitalistic than that. The more value you have to society, the better your health care. If you’re a useless shrub, you get nothing and I get to keep my taxes.
I had never heard of this woman before watching her on tv last night. I was stunned at her appearance. Despite what the title of the video says, this is not the first part of her interview. This video starts near the end of what they aired last night and leaves out the first 8 minutes. For whatever reason (perhaps because her people called and begged them not to) they don’t have an individual video of that first half of her appearance. I suggest everyone watch it to get the full impression of her appearance. She comes on about 8 minutes in.
I have no idea if what she was claiming was true or not It was amazing to me how unprepared and incoherent she was. For the first 2 minutes she did ok but once Stewart asks her a questions she goes off the rails. Every time Stewart asked her a question she got confused and started looking at the bill and lost the plot and started flipping through the pages again.
Because I had never heard of her I didn’t know her position on the issue and I had an incredibly hard time understanding what she was trying to say until about half way through what they aired. It was almost as if she had never seen a television interview before and had no idea what to do in one. My reaction had nothing to do with the health care issue. It was like watching a train wreck.
JCD dump this Cherman guy…he’s taking this blog further into the weeds than it usually is even on a bad day. Fanning the flamers and feeding the trolls to the point where I’m only checking it once a day and not hanging around long. it’s starting to look like the old Yahoo comment threads.
“I don’t like the bill, but it’s not because of this death panel BS” /// Well, thats a start. Maybe you should consider just presenting the material neutrally, or providing one or two bullets to support what point you decide to make??
Why don’t you like the bill? Sources and links are always nice and you would be challenged if you ever post in such a manner.
#8 has my vote. What Obama and company are saying has little to do with the real world.
In the real world when you move resources from senior care to others care seniors die sooner. If that is what you want for reasons that seem good to you say so but don’t bother to lie about it.
The PM of England had to apologize for one hospital that so for as can be told goofed to the point that 400 people died over the span of few years that should not have died at least at that time.
Many of you think this isn’t par for the course for government run programs but it sounds about normal to me.
I also don’t expect the government to spend an unlimited amount of money on anybody. Every health care system in the world has its death panels. Anyone who thinks ours won’t is delusional.
The teenager will get the kidney/heart transplant every time, all things being equal, unless the senior can pay for it themselves in which case the kidney may come from the teenager.
If you want me to support the government taking over 1/5th of the US economy tell me what I and those I love are going to get for the money, how much money it will cost, and how it will be run fairly and efficiently.
If you leave me with “you and those you love will be worse off”. We don’t have a clue where the money is coming from other than a tax on the “rich” and small business during a depression and by the way all the major social spending programs are frankly financial disasters that we can’t sustain as things stand now, I’m not going to support it.
Yeah I know, Socialist can’t or won’t do math nor are they worried about probable negative outcomes of their efforts to forge a new world order in which all people everywhere will live together in peace and harmony and universal brotherhood, which means everyone that worries about such trivial issues is a stupid, evil person who shouldn’t be allowed to vote or express their opinions in public.
#16–do-ill==You are driving in a car at 60 mph at night and can’t see more than 20 feet ahead of you. You know that if you keep going striaght, you will run off a cliff. You don’t know what is to the left or right of you and you can’t slow down.
Now, do you continue forward or wait to be told what might be out there to the left or right?
It would be nice to have “all the facts” before making decisions. But it is a FALSE position because it is rare we ever have the all the facts. Still, deicisons have to be made. The fact you are comfortable in your car right now is not even relevant to your own best interest.
Omg! what she says about the medicare requirement for doctors is so fracking true! I love Jon Stewart. While I get my news media from several sources the only TV “news” I watch is the Daily show. But Jon just doesn’t have the decades of context on this issue.
Medicare does pay Hospitals and Doctors differently depending upon whatever criteria is the flavor of the quarter. In the last decade and a half we have seen the creation of an entirely new filed in Health care: Billing.
In hospitals there is a separate department just for Billing. Medicare is the reason because they change their codes every few months without revealing what codes pay. Private insurance does the same but they lag behind Medicare.
The latest big carrot on a stick, the ones you hear hospital advertising about is Chest Pain Accreditation. If a person with chest pain comes in and we don’t get a ekg, a chest x-ray, and cardiac enzymes done in ten minutes then the hospital eats the cost! Doesn’t sound like a bad idea right? In practice though, government funded holders, they’ve been sitting an hour or two waiting to be seen, Bam! instant chest pain. It was even on “Hiding in Plain Sight” on USA a few weeks ago.
I have twenty-nine years in health care. Something does need to be done, I have two sons who can’t afford health care, hell, I can’t afford health care if either my wife or I lost our job, but slamming something, or as Obama seems willing to do, anything through in just a few months? I call B.S.
You don’t like “the bill”? Since there is as yet no bill but a series of bills, which “the bill” is it that you don’t like?
Honestly Mr. Cherman, your posts on a wide variety of subjects leave me with the impression that you more often than not have no idea what it is that you are talking about.
If there were one Bill I could not like, that would be something. But the fact that there are half a dozen bills multiplies my reasons for not liking it by half a dozen. Obama is just doing that so he can get away with NOT passing what he’s preaching the bill is going to do and can blame congress. Otherwise his team would have actually authored the bill instead of having congress pass a six course pork feast.
Betsy McCaughey is a loser and a bitch. She was Pataki’s Lieutenant Governor, and was just a figurehead while in office.
She’s trying to gain points, now that Caribou Barbie has hit the crapper.
She thinks shes the master of FUD!
I’ll grant you she’s pretty good at it. Her constant ingratiation is nauseating at best.
Fortunately Mr Stewart is the closest thing you see these days to an actual reporter. He’s actually done his homework – and it is truly a great thing to see.
I feel in no way sorry for her – didn’t she see Cramer? Ambition? Arrogance? Madness? How did she think she’d come off well is a mystery.
So this post was for what? Guilherme Cherman, you add nothing to this blog that the most moronic commentors don’t. You fan flames with emotional hyperbolic entries. Please keep your brand of intellectual input on twitter or myspace where it will fit right in.
The Democrats have moved to the right, and the Republicans have moved to a mental hospital.
Bill Maher
It’s been my personal opinion for a long while that when given the opportunity to get real answers out of guests, Jon Stewart is one of the best, most well-informed interviewers in the news industry today.
He asks the right questions everyone wants to hear, he, like freddybob said, does his homework, he doesn’t take a fluff answer, and probably the most important reason, is that because the guest is on the Daily Show on Comedy Central, they don’t expect to being actually interviewed.
The only thing I’m sure of is when this is over, insurance companies and congressmen will still be getting rich and millions of Americans (like me) will still be uninsured and have poor quality health care. I expect all aspects of medical care to get worse and more expensive.
Death panels maybe not, but passive euthanasia certainly. Semantic difference to make it easier to swallow. It follows every Govt. run health care system. Recent examples: Canada counting people over 50 who die from refused treatment based on age/disease as dying of natural causes; Britain where ban was just issued on cancer drug that is known to extend life for 6 months, because of cost,…
My personal life examples from country who run such system: My father denied life saving kidney transplant, despite good medical prognosis as he was over 60. He survived until 64 on dialysis; My mother who died from ALS denied basic nursing care at age of 80, not worth spending “Govt.” money on as she should die soon, which she did under our own care. That waits for you too here in USA if you pick socialist path with many promises and nothing for it.
Small correction of my post: Canada counting system counts those not as natural causes but “OLD AGE”…
I don’t see what the problem is. If you contributed a LOT to society, then you can probably afford the health care to live forever. If you contributed a good deal to society, you probably have some form of health care with your employer.
If you contribute very little or nothing to society — you are old and sit around all day watching “programs” or you are an unemployed mooch your whole life — then obviously you don’t have health care, because you haven’t contributed anything worth getting health care (a solid quality job) and you live a shorter life.
I’m not saying that’s right or wrong, but that’s how it is and I don’t know anything more capitalistic than that. The more value you have to society, the better your health care. If you’re a useless shrub, you get nothing and I get to keep my taxes.
Who ever BRIEFED/couched this lady, should be shot.
Jon, wont let her get AWAY from the Question. and SHE hasnt read ANYTHING or doesnt comprehend WHAT IT SAYS, or what Jons asking.
And I LOVE FUTURE facts from politicians..
POLL a group, separate them in 2, then ASK the 1 group that AGREES with you, all the questions.
I had never heard of this woman before watching her on tv last night. I was stunned at her appearance. Despite what the title of the video says, this is not the first part of her interview. This video starts near the end of what they aired last night and leaves out the first 8 minutes. For whatever reason (perhaps because her people called and begged them not to) they don’t have an individual video of that first half of her appearance. I suggest everyone watch it to get the full impression of her appearance. She comes on about 8 minutes in.
I have no idea if what she was claiming was true or not It was amazing to me how unprepared and incoherent she was. For the first 2 minutes she did ok but once Stewart asks her a questions she goes off the rails. Every time Stewart asked her a question she got confused and started looking at the bill and lost the plot and started flipping through the pages again.
Because I had never heard of her I didn’t know her position on the issue and I had an incredibly hard time understanding what she was trying to say until about half way through what they aired. It was almost as if she had never seen a television interview before and had no idea what to do in one. My reaction had nothing to do with the health care issue. It was like watching a train wreck.
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JCD dump this Cherman guy…he’s taking this blog further into the weeds than it usually is even on a bad day. Fanning the flamers and feeding the trolls to the point where I’m only checking it once a day and not hanging around long. it’s starting to look like the old Yahoo comment threads.
“I don’t like the bill, but it’s not because of this death panel BS” /// Well, thats a start. Maybe you should consider just presenting the material neutrally, or providing one or two bullets to support what point you decide to make??
Why don’t you like the bill? Sources and links are always nice and you would be challenged if you ever post in such a manner.
Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.
#8 has my vote. What Obama and company are saying has little to do with the real world.
In the real world when you move resources from senior care to others care seniors die sooner. If that is what you want for reasons that seem good to you say so but don’t bother to lie about it.
The PM of England had to apologize for one hospital that so for as can be told goofed to the point that 400 people died over the span of few years that should not have died at least at that time.
Many of you think this isn’t par for the course for government run programs but it sounds about normal to me.
I also don’t expect the government to spend an unlimited amount of money on anybody. Every health care system in the world has its death panels. Anyone who thinks ours won’t is delusional.
The teenager will get the kidney/heart transplant every time, all things being equal, unless the senior can pay for it themselves in which case the kidney may come from the teenager.
If you want me to support the government taking over 1/5th of the US economy tell me what I and those I love are going to get for the money, how much money it will cost, and how it will be run fairly and efficiently.
If you leave me with “you and those you love will be worse off”. We don’t have a clue where the money is coming from other than a tax on the “rich” and small business during a depression and by the way all the major social spending programs are frankly financial disasters that we can’t sustain as things stand now, I’m not going to support it.
Yeah I know, Socialist can’t or won’t do math nor are they worried about probable negative outcomes of their efforts to forge a new world order in which all people everywhere will live together in peace and harmony and universal brotherhood, which means everyone that worries about such trivial issues is a stupid, evil person who shouldn’t be allowed to vote or express their opinions in public.
#16–do-ill==You are driving in a car at 60 mph at night and can’t see more than 20 feet ahead of you. You know that if you keep going striaght, you will run off a cliff. You don’t know what is to the left or right of you and you can’t slow down.
Now, do you continue forward or wait to be told what might be out there to the left or right?
It would be nice to have “all the facts” before making decisions. But it is a FALSE position because it is rare we ever have the all the facts. Still, deicisons have to be made. The fact you are comfortable in your car right now is not even relevant to your own best interest.
And thats why you do-ill.
Omg! what she says about the medicare requirement for doctors is so fracking true! I love Jon Stewart. While I get my news media from several sources the only TV “news” I watch is the Daily show. But Jon just doesn’t have the decades of context on this issue.
Medicare does pay Hospitals and Doctors differently depending upon whatever criteria is the flavor of the quarter. In the last decade and a half we have seen the creation of an entirely new filed in Health care: Billing.
In hospitals there is a separate department just for Billing. Medicare is the reason because they change their codes every few months without revealing what codes pay. Private insurance does the same but they lag behind Medicare.
The latest big carrot on a stick, the ones you hear hospital advertising about is Chest Pain Accreditation. If a person with chest pain comes in and we don’t get a ekg, a chest x-ray, and cardiac enzymes done in ten minutes then the hospital eats the cost! Doesn’t sound like a bad idea right? In practice though, government funded holders, they’ve been sitting an hour or two waiting to be seen, Bam! instant chest pain. It was even on “Hiding in Plain Sight” on USA a few weeks ago.
I have twenty-nine years in health care. Something does need to be done, I have two sons who can’t afford health care, hell, I can’t afford health care if either my wife or I lost our job, but slamming something, or as Obama seems willing to do, anything through in just a few months? I call B.S.
Please notice that talking points radical rightwingers offer no solutions themselves!
You don’t like “the bill”? Since there is as yet no bill but a series of bills, which “the bill” is it that you don’t like?
Honestly Mr. Cherman, your posts on a wide variety of subjects leave me with the impression that you more often than not have no idea what it is that you are talking about.