Comments on: McAfee founder goes from US$100 Million to US$4 million…Oooops! http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/21/mcafee-founder-goes-from-u100-to-u4-million/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:55:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Alix http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/21/mcafee-founder-goes-from-u100-to-u4-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1609872 Alix Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:23:31 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=56165#comment-1609872 Wow, amazing comments. You people are good-for-nothing jealous scum. You are poor because you lacked either intelligence, creativity, drive, or contacts. My grandfather was dirt poor in Louisiana and came to Marin City, California with his 4 brothers and sister. They used a converted lumber saw to cut rags for contractors and would dry them on the hillside North of the bridge. My great grandpa was run out of Marin by mafiosa for stealing their customers; collecting peoples garbage without charging. After shoot outs, he took a cash payment and started a company in Santa Rosa, Ca. My grandpa and granduncle bought him ought and now run a $20million company. Thats 50 years of hard, honest work. My other great grandpa was orphaned at 15 due to a car accident. He graduated from Columbia and went on to becoming the CEO of International Harvester, Mack Truck, and ran IBM France for a time. His wealth and stock options translated into mostly dissipates. My white grandma lives in a ghetto apartment, my dad is a white-collar criminal, and my aunt has worked not a day in her life. My mom is a self-made land developer. As for assets, now mostly lawsuits and judgements. In total, we are worth more than McAfee. My mum would work until 3 am of caffeine pills to get deals past. We've been ripped off quite a few times but have always managed to rebound. We are survivors and are going through much strife. I may have a live in, but it doesn't mean life is not a chore. Thinking about it, McAfee had an OK deal. He made stupid investments and was conned. I can relate. It reminds me of when that guy took $100million out of Ron Burckle(?. He claimed to be have connections with the Vatican and cheap real estate. He was a fraud and the money was spent at an unimaginable rate. Our attorney, Nick Tehin(currently serving at Lompoc prison for stealing quadriplegic's settlement money among other things) also embezzled money from a number of projects in Marin and ... Point is, McAfee may not have worked hard as my grandpa and great grandparents, or most of you, but he saw a need for something and supplied it. Simple, short and sweet. Working yourself to the bone under the umbrella of someone else will be a waste of your efforts. If you want to make money, start your own business. Find something you're good at. Start a law firm, realty, pastry shop, grocery store, land holding company, farm, biotech, fishing, software, retail, your choice! If you want to criticize others, be able to support your evidence. Wow, amazing comments. You people are good-for-nothing jealous scum. You are poor because you lacked either intelligence, creativity, drive, or contacts.
My grandfather was dirt poor in Louisiana and came to Marin City, California with his 4 brothers and sister. They used a converted lumber saw to cut rags for contractors and would dry them on the hillside North of the bridge. My great grandpa was run out of Marin by mafiosa for stealing their customers; collecting peoples garbage without charging. After shoot outs, he took a cash payment and started a company in Santa Rosa, Ca. My grandpa and granduncle bought him ought and now run a $20million company. Thats 50 years of hard, honest work.

My other great grandpa was orphaned at 15 due to a car accident. He graduated from Columbia and went on to becoming the CEO of International Harvester, Mack Truck, and ran IBM France for a time. His wealth and stock options translated into mostly dissipates. My white grandma lives in a ghetto apartment, my dad is a white-collar criminal, and my aunt has worked not a day in her life.

My mom is a self-made land developer. As for assets, now mostly lawsuits and judgements. In total, we are worth more than McAfee. My mum would work until 3 am of caffeine pills to get deals past. We’ve been ripped off quite a few times but have always managed to rebound. We are survivors and are going through much strife. I may have a live in, but it doesn’t mean life is not a chore.

Thinking about it, McAfee had an OK deal. He made stupid investments and was conned. I can relate. It reminds me of when that guy took $100million out of Ron Burckle(?. He claimed to be have connections with the Vatican and cheap real estate. He was a fraud and the money was spent at an unimaginable rate. Our attorney, Nick Tehin(currently serving at Lompoc prison for stealing quadriplegic’s settlement money among other things) also embezzled money from a number of projects in Marin and …

Point is, McAfee may not have worked hard as my grandpa and great grandparents, or most of you, but he saw a need for something and supplied it. Simple, short and sweet. Working yourself to the bone under the umbrella of someone else will be a waste of your efforts. If you want to make money, start your own business. Find something you’re good at. Start a law firm, realty, pastry shop, grocery store, land holding company, farm, biotech, fishing, software, retail, your choice! If you want to criticize others, be able to support your evidence.

]]> By: al boulos http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/21/mcafee-founder-goes-from-u100-to-u4-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1572765 al boulos Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:42:04 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=56165#comment-1572765 hey john,i would like to work for you. im retired so dont need much. can relocate. alboulos@hotmail.com. hey john,i would like to work for you. im retired so dont need much. can relocate. alboulos@hotmail.com.

]]> By: arros http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/21/mcafee-founder-goes-from-u100-to-u4-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1569611 arros Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:43:39 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=56165#comment-1569611 I'm glad to see i'm not the only one who has seen first hand how badly his software SUX! I suspect The same Geniuses behind McAfee are the ones CREATING the viruses that plague us! NO SERIOUSLY! Does this scenario sound familiar? We buy the "trusted McAfee" software to protect us from all the evil viruses out there. If we choose not to pay 40 bucks again after the initial 6 months, all of the sudden we're hit by a bunch of viruses out of nowhere! And, of course, the neverending "your computer is not protected! Act now and give us more money so we can protect you!" The software works same as the Mob, "pay up, we'll protect you. We wouldn't want anything BAD to happen to you now would we..." And like the Mob, once you agree once... you can never get rid of that stupid software ever again... i tried. Anyway, enough of my ranting :P (ps my computers are now both happily running McAfee AND Virus free :D) I’m glad to see i’m not the only one who has seen first hand how badly his software SUX! I suspect The same Geniuses behind McAfee are the ones CREATING the viruses that plague us! NO SERIOUSLY!
Does this scenario sound familiar? We buy the “trusted McAfee” software to protect us from all the evil viruses out there. If we choose not to pay 40 bucks again after the initial 6 months, all of the sudden we’re hit by a bunch of viruses out of nowhere! And, of course, the neverending “your computer is not protected! Act now and give us more money so we can protect you!”
The software works same as the Mob, “pay up, we’ll protect you. We wouldn’t want anything BAD to happen to you now would we…”
And like the Mob, once you agree once… you can never get rid of that stupid software ever again… i tried.

Anyway, enough of my ranting :P
(ps my computers are now both happily running McAfee AND Virus free :D )

]]> By: Weary Reaper http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/21/mcafee-founder-goes-from-u100-to-u4-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1567876 Weary Reaper Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:09:35 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=56165#comment-1567876 NO COMMENT NO COMMENT

]]> By: blanchefemme http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/21/mcafee-founder-goes-from-u100-to-u4-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1567616 blanchefemme Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:05:52 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=56165#comment-1567616 My daddy always said. Keep 25% in cash. You got to be pretty stupid to get that leveraged. Real estate is expensive to maintain. But long term will retain value. I am talking 10 to 20 years. My daddy always said.
Keep 25% in cash.
You got to be pretty stupid to get that leveraged.
Real estate is expensive to maintain. But long term will retain value. I am talking 10 to 20 years.

]]> By: Angel H. Wong http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/21/mcafee-founder-goes-from-u100-to-u4-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1567604 Angel H. Wong Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:35:05 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=56165#comment-1567604 He should have done it like Symantec: Make his software slow down to a crawl even the fastest machines to make people believe they're actually running a well built, robust Antivirus software. He should have done it like Symantec: Make his software slow down to a crawl even the fastest machines to make people believe they’re actually running a well built, robust Antivirus software.

]]> By: curmudgeon http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/21/mcafee-founder-goes-from-u100-to-u4-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1567601 curmudgeon Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:17:26 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=56165#comment-1567601 #42 Mr Fusion #29 bobbo those are simply direct quotes from the NYT piece, the points it is trying to make. McAfee's story is just an example the reporters used. Their graphics http://tinyurl.com/lxru23 McAfee's response: http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/21/mcafee-responds/ #42 Mr Fusion
#29 bobbo
those are simply direct quotes from the NYT piece, the points it is trying to make.
McAfee’s story is just an example the reporters used.
Their graphics http://tinyurl.com/lxru23
McAfee’s response:
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/21/mcafee-responds/

]]> By: ZZman http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/21/mcafee-founder-goes-from-u100-to-u4-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1567548 ZZman Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:15:47 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=56165#comment-1567548 This just crossed my mind. How many guys like him we will have when the Win7 comes out and the antivirus software will not be needed anymore. Or am I dreaming again? This just crossed my mind. How many guys like him we will have when the Win7 comes out and the antivirus software will not be needed anymore. Or am I dreaming again?

]]> By: Mr. Fusion http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/21/mcafee-founder-goes-from-u100-to-u4-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1567502 Mr. Fusion Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:04:38 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=56165#comment-1567502 #28, curmudgeon, Great post, a big thumbs up. Facts trump opinions any day! (y) #28, curmudgeon,

Great post, a big thumbs up.

Facts trump opinions any day!

(y)

]]> By: Alfred1 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/21/mcafee-founder-goes-from-u100-to-u4-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1567493 Alfred1 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:49:03 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=56165#comment-1567493 #38 Jesus Christ, my LORD, of course. I wasn't always an angel...I once lived by the adage...only the strong survive... No longer. Now I help the weak. #38 Jesus Christ, my LORD, of course.

I wasn’t always an angel…I once lived by the adage…only the strong survive…

No longer. Now I help the weak.

]]> By: Alfred1 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/21/mcafee-founder-goes-from-u100-to-u4-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1567490 Alfred1 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:45:17 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=56165#comment-1567490 He should cut expenses and lay low...see if the statists win, or free market. It would be stupid to invest in the US till its certain property rights will be respected, and whether profits will be taxed so high the risk is not worth taking. Despite the present euphoria, the deception the recession is over will be short lived, nothing real has changed...and there will be a severe correction in Stocks in October...the dead cat bounce will then be clearly manifest. He should cut expenses and lay low…see if the statists win, or free market. It would be stupid to invest in the US till its certain property rights will be respected, and whether profits will be taxed so high the risk is not worth taking.

Despite the present euphoria, the deception the recession is over will be short lived, nothing real has changed…and there will be a severe correction in Stocks in October…the dead cat bounce will then be clearly manifest.

]]> By: bobbo, over time, all things become clear http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/21/mcafee-founder-goes-from-u100-to-u4-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1567485 bobbo, over time, all things become clear Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:26:37 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=56165#comment-1567485 Hey Alfie===what else beside potential jail time keeps you in check? Hey Alfie===what else beside potential jail time keeps you in check?

]]> By: Alfred1 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/21/mcafee-founder-goes-from-u100-to-u4-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1567482 Alfred1 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:24:28 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=56165#comment-1567482 #33 Thanks...very interesting... Never would have guessed not one line of code did he write...Peter, however, did write disk doctor and a few other tools, and bought into AV later, right? I recall arguing with a Norton Rep...what do you mean I gotta buy a license...I've been using bootleg copies of Norton's disk doctor since the 80's...I was serious...till I realize what I was saying. #33 Thanks…very interesting… Never would have guessed not one line of code did he write…Peter, however, did write disk doctor and a few other tools, and bought into AV later, right?

I recall arguing with a Norton Rep…what do you mean I gotta buy a license…I’ve been using bootleg copies of Norton’s disk doctor since the 80’s…I was serious…till I realize what I was saying.

]]> By: bobbo, found another solution http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/21/mcafee-founder-goes-from-u100-to-u4-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1567472 bobbo, found another solution Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:34:05 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=56165#comment-1567472 but it really comes from Larry Flint in his short article on Huff Post. Really quite good. Here's the bottom line and teaser with which I agree: "As Thomas Jefferson famously quipped in regard to the insurrection: "A little rebellion now and then is a good thing. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Perhaps it's time to consider that option once again. I'm calling for a national strike, one designed to close the country down for a day. The intent? Real campaign-finance reform and strong restrictions on lobbying. Because nothing will change until we take corporate money out of politics. Nothing will improve until our politicians are once again answerable to their constituents, not the rich and powerful. Let's set a date. No one goes to work. No one buys anything. And if that isn't effective -- if the politicians ignore us -- we do it again. And again. And again. The real war is not between the left and the right. It is between the average American and the ruling class. If we come together on this single issue, everything else will resolve itself. It's time we took back our government from those who would make us their slaves." http://huffingtonpost.com/larry-flynt/common-sense-2009_b_264706.html So, we have a growing menu: 1. 2 Election Term Limits 2. National Strikes 3. VOTE ALL INCUMBENTS OUT OF OFFICE. but it really comes from Larry Flint in his short article on Huff Post. Really quite good. Here’s the bottom line and teaser with which I agree:

“As Thomas Jefferson famously quipped in regard to the insurrection: “A little rebellion now and then is a good thing. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

Perhaps it’s time to consider that option once again.

I’m calling for a national strike, one designed to close the country down for a day. The intent? Real campaign-finance reform and strong restrictions on lobbying. Because nothing will change until we take corporate money out of politics. Nothing will improve until our politicians are once again answerable to their constituents, not the rich and powerful.

Let’s set a date. No one goes to work. No one buys anything. And if that isn’t effective — if the politicians ignore us — we do it again. And again. And again.

The real war is not between the left and the right. It is between the average American and the ruling class. If we come together on this single issue, everything else will resolve itself. It’s time we took back our government from those who would make us their slaves.”

http://huffingtonpost.com/larry-flynt/common-sense-2009_b_264706.html

So, we have a growing menu:
1. 2 Election Term Limits
2. National Strikes
3. VOTE ALL INCUMBENTS OUT OF OFFICE.

]]> By: bobbo, a troll? How now brown cow? http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/21/mcafee-founder-goes-from-u100-to-u4-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1567471 bobbo, a troll? How now brown cow? Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:24:21 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=56165#comment-1567471 #34--pyrite==hah, hah. All definitional. A troll as you please. How you label me with what you PLAINLY post yourself. C'mon--just a little effort. Make just one sentence that makes sense. Strike youf own whiny BS and we are left with: "If you think life sucks and you die, it and you will." /// The danger of a compound subject as we all die whether or not life sucks. ((An aside, forgive me editor.)) YOU sound just like a LIEBERTARIAN. Think you can change things by the magnificence of your own will as proven by how successful you are all on your own merit. Sorry. BS. You are an idiot and a dolt. Several giant steps another a troll. I pass gas in your general direction. #34–pyrite==hah, hah. All definitional. A troll as you please.

How you label me with what you PLAINLY post yourself.

C’mon–just a little effort. Make just one sentence that makes sense.

Strike youf own whiny BS and we are left with: “If you think life sucks and you die, it and you will.” /// The danger of a compound subject as we all die whether or not life sucks.

((An aside, forgive me editor.)) YOU sound just like a LIEBERTARIAN. Think you can change things by the magnificence of your own will as proven by how successful you are all on your own merit.

Sorry. BS. You are an idiot and a dolt. Several giant steps another a troll. I pass gas in your general direction.

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