Rep. Dean Heller, R-Nev., told colleagues Thursday that members of Congress should be required to join any federal public health benefits plan created by Congress.
“I do not believe the federal government should be running health care in our country and levying massive tax increases on America’s small businesses,” said Heller in urging support for an amendment to the proposed plan. “However, if this administration and the majority party are going to force government-run health care on the American people, then members of Congress should be required to enroll in that plan. “If the government-run ‘public plan’ is good enough for millions of our constituents, then it should be good enough for members of Congress,” he said.
He asked the committee reviewing the America’s Affordable Health Choices Act to adopt the amendment requiring Congress to participate in the plan. The amendment, however, was rejected by the committee 21-18.
Raster, wow! You’re nearly as crazy as Jägermeister.
How about this? If government reps can’t eat the food, make the food edible.
If the government reps won’t take the health insurance, make it better.
If the government reps think they are too good to eat at the same table as the rest of us, then…
Does “Let them eat cake” mean anything to you?
#20 Another “it’s ok if we do it” demagogue, I see.
Ah_Yea, you’re nearly as crazy as Pedro.
Millions of Americans (like our reps) have great insurance, which they pay for, and don’t need anything done.
The ‘government’ portion of this plan is there to get insurance to the millions of under and uninsured Americans (unlike our reps), who do need something done.
BYW: 22,000 Americans die every year because they have no insurance.
Does “Let them eat cake” mean anything to you?
I think “by law” no law applies to Congress unless it expressly states it does? Something like that.
Anyway, why would any self interested corrupt power seeking parasite substitute a better program for a worse program?????
And why should anyone choosing the best they can get be a rationale for providing those lowest on the rung who have nothing with something?
Its like saying unless those in Congress want to eat only food you can get on Food Stamps, they shouldn’t eat at all.
You know, their is a wide and long playing field for conservatives and libs to play on. Why so often a select too many choose to go off the field, into the clubhouse, and argue in the toilet is beyond me.
And yes, in my objective view because it is so jaundiced, the right wing does it almost uniformily over the libs.
Now, where is that turd I saw floating by a few minutes ago?====there it is-arguing about whether or not Bush played politics with the Color Coded Thread System. Hah, hah. Well done. The entire system was created and a creature of playing the terrorist card against we the sheeple. Arguing about specific examples really is hiding the sausage.
I hope you ALL know..
That WE THE PEOPLE, can decide this issue..
raster, said:
“22,000 Americans die every year because they have no insurance.”
Seems I know more about this than you do.
“When Democratic Rep. Bill Pascrell of New Jersey said on July 30 that “as many as 22,000 Americans die each year because they don’t have health insurance,” the number he cited was an updated version of one originally calculated by the federally chartered Institute of Medicine. … The IOM then used annual statistics on insurance rates and deaths to determine an estimate of extra deaths attributable to the lack of insurance.
But a more recent paper raises questions about the IOM’s conclusions. The paper, published online in April in HSR: Health Services Research … which is a part of the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, concludes that the Institute of Medicine’s estimate is ‘almost certainly incorrect.’
In other words, once you compare death rates in an apples-to-apples fashion — comparing insured smokers to uninsured smokers, for instance — the likelihood of dying evens out. This, in turn, would mean that IOM’s estimate of deaths would drop essentially to zero.”
http://tinyurl.com/lnkvkx
Ok, so now you are enlightened. On to other news.
Nowhere do I see Obama stating that his program is specifically targeted to the uninsured or underinsured. He and his ilk is specifically stating that ObamaCare is intended to be competitive with all other insurance plans to “keep them honest”.
Therefore, if this plan is competitive, as has been portrayed, why don’t those backing the plan use it?
Is it a first-rate plan, or is it only for second-class citizens?
Where did Obama say this plan was inferior?
Back up your answer with specific references.
I say we force congress into whatever they crafted for us, and see how well it serves them, in their senior years…if they fare well, then perhaps we can give it another look.
Especially Pelosi, Reid, Obama and his family, must be in Obamacare, and if they try to get medical help elsewhere, it would be under the penalty of impoverishment, just as they plan to do to us when we seek help after bureaucrats death panel decides we are too old to be helped.
So this Guilherme posts an over month old article as proof the current plans being negotiated “suck”? Nice try passing off old news as something relevant.
Rep. Heller was just toeing the Rushpublican line and parroting back the talking points dictated to him in a further attempt to spread more of the misinformation and fear instead of proposing an actual solution other than tax cuts for the rich and keeping the status quo for his insurance industry masters.
Glad I live here in Vegas and will be able to help vote him and Ensign out come next election cycle.
Thank you #10. It isn’t good enough for Obama or Congress. That much is obvious but then they are better than the people they work for or maybe they see having a better plan as being their just due for the fine job they are doing running the nation? Cough.
Congress doesn’t want to participate for the same reason the top-level corporate bigwigs don’t participate in the same 401k as their employees.
Actually, the 401K laws forbid larger income executives from participating. For those of us in upper middle management, the 401K limits are always painfully close.
Republicans want to have it both ways, from the C-street cultists like Tom Coburn to the fake fiscal conservatives, they want to enjoy federal single-payer insurance they already get, but deny americans the same thing.
Harry Truman said “The Buck Stops Here.” Anyone remember what he meant by that?
Why in the hell do you think that anyone in government is inherently more valuable than me or my family? Come on, you said it, give me facts, facts you suckbag as to why some bottom feeding professional rhetoric is better than anyone who lives in my neighborhood you buttwipe?
Truman said that he would be making a step up! from president to Citizen. Sure am glad to know that some of us anyway are holding to the original intent of the office as a place of servant, as opposed to a place of privilege for the self appointed royalty.
“This” health care bill sucks? Same point as in my post in the other thread. Given that there is no bill as yet, which “this bill” is it you are (not) talking about? GEEZ!
#30 You lost me. Which one were you trying to say was better, the sleazy corp. heads or the sleazy politicos. Not to mention that nice fail with the 401k example.
#32 And demagogues don’t?
#34 So people should not avoid a bad bill to be created before it gets approved. Lame!
i still cant believe anyone can even THINK of allowing the feds to have one more ounce of control over ANYTHING, let alone our well-being. especially given the rampant corruption that has been going on on the hill for over a century now.
This bloody health care NON-ISSUE is being used as a distraction to keep us from taking a magnifying glass to congress’s complicity in the current wholesale raping of our country and it’s people.
if you people think the current lunatics controlling the debate give two shits about “affordable health care” well then, your bigger morons than i give you credit for.
As Guilherme has pointed out, they want no
part of this “wonderful plan” -other than to fulfill their vision of having a boot stamping on your face – forever.
only a blithering, mind-numbed idiot cannot see this.
-s
If Congress was enacting a mandatory health care plan for all that was eliminating private insurance, sure, the argument would be valid. This is not the case. They are trying to insure those who have no health care. Thus they and many millions of others have continued freedom of choice which is what America is supposed to be about.
At this point, after watching the Fox gang members and all the selfish pigs vomiting and farting in everyone’s faces, I am getting sick of the drama, and unfortunately, if I need treatment, I will have to go to the emergency room which costs about 12x what it would cost if I could be treated by a local doctor who accepted the National Health Care reimbursement. Fortunately, the hospital will bill your insurance or your tax dollars anyway.
They also tried to let the public into Congress’s health plan. That didn’t pass either.
Hell, those jackasses won’t even read the bill and now you expect them to eat their own dog food?
36,
common error.
HOW do you get capitalism to WORK as capitalism.
COMPETE.
When a corp controls ALL(dont mind the names, they are all the same) how to you kick them in the shins, and MAKE them do the job they ASKED to do.
You really dont want to SUE them, that is only transferred to those PAYING for the health plan.
Everyone thinks this will cost FORTUNES..
But look at what is SHOULD DO.
1. medicaid and medicare?? gone
2. Companies dont have to pay it anymore, they charge the employee 8% to PAY IT
3. force prices on Major medical supplies IN 1/2 if not lower.
4. testing facilities should be able to spread out and have more locations rather then 1 for an entire state.
5. proper record keeping, IF’ they can get their act together.