A new wrinkle in the dispute over his birth – and whether he is eligible to be president under the U.S. Constitution’s requirement that the president be a “natural born” citizen – appeared today when Obama’s official MySpace page declared his age is 52, thus placing his birth year at 1957 instead of 1961 as has been claimed.
That would mean he would have been born during the archipelago’s time as a territory of the U.S., the islands’ status from about 1900 until statehood in 1959. The birth year also conflicts with campaign and other White House information that have discussed his 48th birthday this month.
This is probably a mistake or some intern messing up, but no response yet from the White House. If this is true (which again, I don’t think so), Obama can’t be the president. The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states,
“No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”
We will probably see a lot more of this story this week.
Its ironic we must accept circumstantial evidence Obama was really born in Hawaii, BUT the fact he sat applauding racism in a racist church for 20 years, has dozens of racist “scholars” as personal friends, and refused to prosecute black panther thugs who stopped white people from voting, is to be rejected as proving nothing.
# 101 Alfred1, You don’t have to accept anything. It’s important to us voters that you don’t.
We need to see ALL you BIRTHERS publicly continue your fact-less demonstrations, your protestations. Please entertain us and march in the 100s on Washington. Yell shout…..
I recommend you continue your ranting and ravings.
I wish you would do it on TV.
It’s very important to our democracy, the public can see you leading the republican charge, snorting, stomping your feet, ranting, raving, screaming
“Obama is an alien, Obama is an alien, he is not natural born, he is not natural born, Hawaii’s Republican governor is a bold face liar, Hawaii’s Republican governor is a bold face liar.
Please don’t stop. I need the entertainment.
Alfred1,
Thanks for proving my point.
#102-noname
I see you are a member of the Saul Alinsky school of socialism and community organizing.
What’s the tactic… drag out the charge, humiliate the attackers, accuse them of being ridiculous, and hope the issue dies of its own accord.
Sometimes this is just too easy.
# 9 Dr Dodd,
If what you say in #104 wasn’t the case I would agree with you in your #9 post, I don’t agree. But the charges you BIRTHERS throw at the President are what you want them to be.
I don’t know much about Paul Alinsky, I am more of Procrustes’s bed in Greek legend kind of person, deal with it.
#105-noname-I am more of Procrustes’s bed in Greek legend
Then perhaps I would be the perfect Theseus.
Who ever said I was a birther? But then again since Obama won’t disprove their claims maybe there is more to it than meets the eye.
Deal with it.
#106 Dr Dodd,
I like this FUD stuff you BIRTHERS are desperately peddling.
“since Obama won’t disprove their claims maybe there is more to it than meets the eye.”
I guess in your words, you can claim not to be a BIRTHER, but in deed, you certainly are.
Be honest with yourself, your a BIRTHER, deal with it.
#103 You missed my point entirely…
I am NOT a birther, see my posts on this above.
Nor do I believer Obama is a racist…
MY POINT was YOU lefties rail about those who object to meekly accepting without question the claims about Obama’s birth…you insist the evidence, while circumstantial, results in certainty…so much so, there must be other reasons for birthers doubting the claims…
BUT YOU REJECT the comparatively overwhelming mass of circumstantial evidence that Obama must be a racist…for over 20 years he applauded racist preaching by Rev. Wright…he pals around with racists like B. Gates…when it was time to apply the law, fairly, to black Panther thugs, he does not…
So YOU are inconsistent…while you reject overwhelming circumstantial evidence Obama must be a racist, you accept without question the circumstantial evidence he was born somewhere in Hawaii…maybe.
Inconsistency is characteristic of either overt deception….or irrationality…
Which is true of you?
Whether Obama is a racist or not has nothing to do with his heritage. That is a non-sequitur to the discussion.
To focus on that and not on issues (like your thoughts on his racism) is (ironically) rascist. Otherwise, those who hate him would just focus on what they don’t like about him, not about perceived wild-ass reasons he shouldn’t be President.
#84 I was comenting on the whole subject at hand here, not only birthers.
Are birthers nuts? Indeed. Nuts & desperate. In the conspiracy theory dept. with a pinch of nuttyness found on UFO believers.
Is the subject posted funny? You bet. I have no doubt this story was placed to see reactions in here. And boy, did he manage to get them. This is what’s most amusing to me.
Some of the people you’re refering in here might have racist intentions behind, but not all of them and those that could be labeled as racists are so mild that pointing them out says more from the people crying about it than it does from them.
Thus, my conclusion that there are not as many racists as there are those who see racist remarks where there’s none. People can be easily manipulated by their weaknesses and allowing one self to be affected by those things when they’re not clearly attacks, is a huge weakness to explode. Heck, even when they’re so, although I believe there should not be a place for straight racism
#90 Why am I so low on that list? I demand a revision!
#103 You take time to read his posts?
#104 Trouble with that technique is that it’s filled with projection. #102 it’s a perfect example of that.
#105 No. #104 was spot-on.
#110-pedro-You take time to read his posts?
Yes, I afraid so. I’m not proud of it, but I was bored and he amuses me.
#109 Your reply proves your inconsistency is best explained by a desire to deceive others…to smear your opposition as being racist, when they act like you and dispute circumstantial evidence, as it is circumstantial.
It is likely you are the racist…hence you hurl that accustaion at others, for the most flimsly of reasons.
Just as a thief believers everyone is a thief, regardless of evidence to the contrary, so you cry “racist” because in your heart of hearts, that is what you know you are.
#88 Dr Dumbass
Lets recap shall we?
Post #32 Dr. Dumbass
“#31-noname-site an example regarding Obama shredding the Constitution…
Let see, so many examples – so little time.
The most egregious example is Obama appointing hoards of unaccountable Czars that make it possible to bypass elected representatives.”
My response to your post #32
“Show me the part of the constitution it violates to appoint Czars.”
Your response to my post #81
“I find your choice of complaint interesting. I’m sure it would be beyond fascinating to hear why you don’t have a problem with Obama appointing a hoard of Czars for the expressed purpose of overriding elected representatives. ”
Now my response to your post #88
I bet you would find that interesting. Too bad my post was “Show me the part of the constitution it violates to appoint Czars.” I assume you can not and are now trying to avoid that burden of proof.
Unless you can back up your argument with facts I will dismiss you as another stupid fuck that simply spews crap for the sake of thinking they something important to say.
This was probably an intentional “mistake” made by the administration to whip up the birthers so that they can point fingers and say, “see, the opposition is full of nuts!”
Alphie, the budding Nazi,
the fact he sat applauding racism in a racist church for 20 years,
Hey, you told us that Reverend Wright was right! So please explain how this came to be, he is right one day and then wrong just a couple of days later.
Maybe all those statist beliefs you have been swallowing are effecting your brain.
#112, Alphie, the Budding Nazi,
Your reply proves your inconsistency is best explained by a desire to deceive others…to smear your opposition as being racist, when they act like you and dispute circumstantial evidence, as it is circumstantial.
I have asked you and others on several occasions, what has the Reverend Wright ever preached that was incorrect. You idiots never answer. Instead you come with garbage like that above.
You are a racist and don’t care. You have to be to keep your incoherent tone and rambling nonsense.
Typical Nazi fascist.
#116 I won’t allow your budding Nazi tactic of misdirection, change of subject, to work.
Birthers rightly point out the proof of Obama’s birth is CIRCUMSTANTIAL, at best. Testimony of someone other than the midwife or physician is accepted…no personal appearance is necessary so signatures on the request can be forged…no one checks.
I agree the announcement of Obama’s birth in print dating back to the time, collaborates the cert of live birth…however, it also is CIRCUMSTANTIAL…
For “birthers” so point this out, is no more irrational than moonbats disbelieving the circumstantial evidence that exists indicating Obama is a racist.
Circumstantial evidence is not a “smoking gun.”
When smartalex points to doubting circumstantial evidence, as proof of racism, he thereby accuses our entire legal system, which does not judge circumstantial proof as sufficient proof beyond reasonable doubt.
Reasonable doubt is not racist.
So smartalex, by charging racism, proves more than he wishes…as the charge of racism would not arise come to most minds, we must suspect the mind of smartalex is special, different from most of us.
As it is incontrovertible thieves believe everyone is a thief, homosexuals like yourself, that everyone are also homosexual, it follows his charge of racism arises because he is a racist.
It is a common tactic of a thief to misdirect everyone’s attention away from themselves, by accusing others of being a thief.
A fair and honest evaluation of the premises upon which smartalex concluded others are racist, results in the conclusion it is smaralex who is the racist, and he is defecting attention from himself, lest he be ostracised by his fellow moonbats.
You may now resume your limp wristed nazi goostepping in those campy uniforms, in the moonlight.
# 117 Alfred1
Your post is the lamest attempt, at the use of logic, I have ever seen.
Alfred1,
You are either very stupid or just clumsy at being disingenuous. The question is a simple one: do you believe Obama is an American citizen?
There is no “maybe”. There is “yes, here is why”, or “no, here is why”. Then you have to produce proof. If there is no proof, you have to drop the issue.
If you try and keep the issue open by bringing in non-sequiturs, you are either an idiot or a racist.
So I aoplogize for calling “birthers” racist, I really do. Some of them may be just idiots.
See? It’s simple. If you want to discuss anything under the sun about Obama’s policies, personalities, or principles, feel free to do so. I will even add counter-arguments if I disagree with you. But this issue is done. That’s all. Keeping it open only makes you look foolish.
#68 — Uncle Patso
I’m just saying it’s more likely that he went to a Bilderburg meeting that that he was born in Kenya.
Oh, FYI: Inappropriate laughter is a sign of mental instability.