A new wrinkle in the dispute over his birth – and whether he is eligible to be president under the U.S. Constitution’s requirement that the president be a “natural born” citizen – appeared today when Obama’s official MySpace page declared his age is 52, thus placing his birth year at 1957 instead of 1961 as has been claimed.
That would mean he would have been born during the archipelago’s time as a territory of the U.S., the islands’ status from about 1900 until statehood in 1959. The birth year also conflicts with campaign and other White House information that have discussed his 48th birthday this month.
This is probably a mistake or some intern messing up, but no response yet from the White House. If this is true (which again, I don’t think so), Obama can’t be the president. The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states,
“No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”
We will probably see a lot more of this story this week.
Dumbass Dodd
“The most egregious example is Obama appointing hoards of unaccountable Czars that make it possible to bypass elected representatives.”
Show me the part of the constitution it violates to appoint Czars.
#78 Option 1: You’re just looking for more hits here.
Option 2: you fell flat on your face for the blog post.
One thing is obvious to me, the number of people that are not ready to let go the race handicap/stigma is higher than the actual racists.
>> Smartalix said, on August 23rd, 2009 at 8:52 am
>> To question Obama’s pedigree is not racist.
To ONLY question Obama’s ethnic legitimacy strikes me as racist — especially when the other white candidate was, indeed, not born in America and they didn’t care at all.
But here is the bigger issue:
The GOP desperately needs to undermine a popular war-time president, so they use the conservative media to gin-up a bogus “scandal” to de-legitimize him.
Rank-and-file conservatives are, by nature, followers. The GOP elite, exploit this.
So Republicans dumbly get led around by their noses from one bogus issue to the next.
Fine, some people are always going to be mindless and hysterical. They are wired for it. We can’t change that.
But we shouldn’t let them run the country, either.
pedro,
Please explain your position in a clear, intelligent manner. What do you mean exactly?
I am not bringing up nor am I embracing racism. The birthers are, simply because they refuse to accept facts. You know, facts, those little things that prove something. For example, two newspapers reported Obama’s birth in Hawaii. Unless you ignore reality, to further inquire means that there are other motivators.
In this specific case, the only (otherwise McCain would have gotten the same treatment) reason to pursue the issue is race. Obama doesn’t look “like us” (as a ixed-race American citizen, he does look like me) so he must obviously not be a “real” American.
If this had to do with pollicy, his opposition would attack that. But Obama makes too much sense, so he has to be attacked on a visceral level where intelligent arguments don’t work.
Racist slurs against the President’s citizenship works with morons and racists (and unfortunately most of the fearful and ignorant as well) because it works with their myopic world vision that feels America’s best times are behind her and that the 50′s should never have ended. Fuck them. Honestly, fuck them. I have no time for idiots like that.
Obama’s mother is a citizen, and “Natural Born” means that you have to be a citizen at birth. Being born of a citizen makes you a citizen, especially if it is on American soil. ask John McCain.
To further debate this issue can only be from racist reeasons, so if you continue in this thread, you are the one keeping this distasteful (the world is really grokking our society’s openess to our Hispanic and Black citizens) issue alive.
Obama has lots of issues like this.
He’s confused as to whether he was born in Queen’s Hospital or at Kapriolani Hospital.
He says he met his wife while both were at Harvard law school, except they didn’t attend at the same time.
He’s said his parents conceived him in celebration of the Selma march, which occurred years after his birth and after his parents had divorced.
He says his parents raised him in Hawaii for 2 years after his birth, except that his mom took him to Washington alone the month after he was born, leaving his father in Hawaii for almost a year before he left alone for Harvard.
Obama never lets the facts get in the way of a good story.
Well to the point, since President Hussein is such an open Marxist and has a Racist Preacher where he’s been going to a Racist Church they probably don’t like him. Personally, if he were a Nationalist and Pro-American I’d be for him. But since he’s a Judgmental NAZI Marxist/Commie piece of shit Globalist just like King George Bush, I don’t.
The only racist are the one’s that can’t get past his color which are the one’s like ‘smartalix’. They have no other defense for President Hussein not’s producing his birth certificate that call racist, racist. Oppose Death Care and you’re a racist. Oppose Cap & Trade and you’re a racist. Oppose simultaneous legislation and you’re a racist. Oppose concentration camps and you’re a racist, etc..etc..
A Commie by any color is Red and it’s Better Dead Than Red. What happened to Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death, oh yeah Hussein is giving us Death Care.
Whatever………………………….
Traaxx
I had thought that Obama was a pretty clever guy, but in his utter carelessness, he let the most tightly-held secret of his entire life slip into full public view on his MySpace page.
I never would have believed it, but with MySpace’s spotless record of impenetrable security, it must be true!
#81-J-Show me the part of the constitution it violates to appoint Czars.
I find your choice of complaint interesting. I’m sure it would be beyond fascinating to hear why you don’t have a problem with Obama appointing a hoard of Czars for the expressed purpose of overriding elected representatives.
Please enlighten us as to why you are fine with Obama’s end-run.
I’ve had enough of this rubbish. I’ve read this blog for over a year, but it’s just getting too stupid. Bye, bye Dvorak dot org slash blog.
Obama hateniks are turning DU into an Aryan dating chat room.
But, this is a good thing, because; like all hate groups, they will publicly self-implode and further the reason not to vote RePUCKaTon ever again.
Here is the Aryan hatenik dating menu. What will their children look like??????
# 4 Somebody
# 5 Guilherme Cherman
# 9 Dr Dodd
# 10 Iskios
# 16 Amsterdamned
# 26 pedro
# 33 Animby
# 35 bmcaffee
# 38 kindred
# 74 Alfred1
# 85 RSweeney
# 86 Traaxx
I don’t understand the issue — Obama was born on U.S. soil (doesn’t matter if it’s a territory or state) and is also the son of an American citizen. So how would he not be considered a natural born citizen? Please explain, because it is not clear.
That’s the point, Cuyler. That’s the entire point. To chase this issue any further can only be attributed to blind hatred on a visceral level.
This stupid trivial argument never came up when Obama ran for the Senate. So why now? Just because the Republican party are a bunch of sore losers. And they’ve got nothing better (aka no one better) to compete with Obama. McCain & Palin? Were they serious?! Yeah, they picked one of the oldest Senators, who was a bit dirty from that old “Keating Five” debacle. Ya know, that Real Estate fraud, in Arizona. I guess Jeb and Neil Bush just weren’t interested. Or were still too “HOT” from their prior bad business dealings, or political fiascoes (ya know, Silverado S&L and Floridah?), to pass the scratch test with the public.
Frankly, I think the GOP secretly wanted Obama to win. Because they didn’t want to deal with the economic mess that Bush II, left behind. And then blame everything they can think of on Obama. Apparently they stopped counting on real assassinations, and have taken to character assassinations, since Bill Clinton.
390–noname==cracks me up. But where are the leather clad nice Aryan ladies–or are the Boys from Brazil ((nice Guilherme connection by chance)) just salivating for the time Alaska Barbie twitters here?
Just for fun–I don’t know if Animby should be on that list. Far as I know, a one-off thread that he really hasn’t confirmed. Ego in the way I suspect.
It is fun/sad to see the Repugs go all contorted but the fan club here takes it all ditto head in. “Bush mispeaks too much on a tee-shirt” is thought to be treacherous evil hatred, when its just the truth while “Obama is a Socialist from Kenya trying to subvert America born by gun wielding zealots” is speaking truth to power.
Ditto-heads. What are they good for?
#88 Dr Dodd:
“I’m sure it would be beyond fascinating to hear why you don’t have a problem with Obama appointing a hoard of Czars for the expressed purpose of overriding elected representatives.” [Emphasis addded.]
President Obama actually expressed that purpose? Huh. Musta missed that press conference…
(BTW, I think you meant HORDE.)
#95-Uncle Patso-I think you meant HORDE
Quite right – hate it when that happens.
Obama’s horde of Czars should trouble everyone especially Obama supporters. I know there must be some fair minded Democrats out there somewhere who are troubled with this unnatural installation of power.
I would also hope that this is one issue Republicans and Democrats could agree. After all it’s a presidential abuse of power that if allowed to continue will eventually bring the hammer down on every citizen.
Obama’s birth a non-issue. The original debate was whether he was born in Kenya or not. Well, no one has been able to prove he was, so that issue is dead.
Not to mention Hawaii has been a US territory since 1896. I’m pretty sure Obama isn’t over 113 years old…
McCain. Also a non-issue. For everyone who knows basic US history, that is.
McCain was born in Panama. OH NO!
Wait!! McCain was born in a US hospital in the Panama Canal Zone, which at the time was a US territory until good’ole Pres. Carter gave it to Panama.
Non-issue.
96,
Abuse of power is a completely different issue, I suggest that discussion be pursued elsewhere.
# 94 bobbo, I love this blog,
“390–noname==cracks me up. But where are the leather clad nice Aryan ladies–or are the Boys from Brazil ((nice Guilherme connection by chance)) just salivating for the time Alaska Barbie twitters here?”
I know I haven’t been as productive in my number of blog posts, I ‘ll try to work my way back up to over a 1K posts. It’s difficult when you have to work and sleep. I know, those are just excuses.
I’ll be sure to take Animby off the list. I don’t want him to appear on the governments no-fly list with the other Aryan boys.
#99–noname==your list, your choice. If it were my list, I would annotate it with “This contributor’s qualifications for this list have been contested but it will remain until “x” explains a post that standing alone makes him sound like an Aryan.”
I would do better, but I’d have to go find the post. Obama as Joker I think, but====not much fun if he isn’t going to play. Unlike Alfie who I enjoy giving a “Hey” to so that he gets to “choose” to avoid me for my budding Nazi name calling.
I always pick my flowers on the sunny side of the slope.