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	<title>Comments on: In Today&#8217;s DIY Corner &#8212; How To Rendition And Interrogate a High Value Detainee</title>
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		<title>By: Dr Dodd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Dodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 16:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18-noname-Don’t use torture to avenge me or in my name!

Although naive, I&#039;m sure your intentions are noble. Naive because you are not the only one that would be killed in an attack. 

One can glean a great deal about someone who would be willing to sacrifice possibly hundreds or even thousands of innocent people so one enemy combatant won&#039;t be made uncomfortable. 

If such an attack did happen that could have been prevented then you may rest easy because I doubt anyone would bother to avenge you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18-noname-Don’t use torture to avenge me or in my name!</p>
<p>Although naive, I&#8217;m sure your intentions are noble. Naive because you are not the only one that would be killed in an attack. </p>
<p>One can glean a great deal about someone who would be willing to sacrifice possibly hundreds or even thousands of innocent people so one enemy combatant won&#8217;t be made uncomfortable. </p>
<p>If such an attack did happen that could have been prevented then you may rest easy because I doubt anyone would bother to avenge you.</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
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		<dc:creator>noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 16 Dr Dodd,

Yes I wondering something like that too, are you worth avenging?

I guess you maybe saying what they are saying in a very circular manner.

Don&#039;t use torture to avenge me or in my name!

Good for you Dr Dodd, I guess, I can agree with that; don&#039;t use torture to avenge me or in my name!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 16 Dr Dodd,</p>
<p>Yes I wondering something like that too, are you worth avenging?</p>
<p>I guess you maybe saying what they are saying in a very circular manner.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t use torture to avenge me or in my name!</p>
<p>Good for you Dr Dodd, I guess, I can agree with that; don&#8217;t use torture to avenge me or in my name!</p>
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		<title>By: Dallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This disgusting policy will forever rank amongst the saddest part of American history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This disgusting policy will forever rank amongst the saddest part of American history.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Dodd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Dodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15-

How interesting - I was wondering what exactly makes a group like this think they are worth avenging?</description>
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<p>How interesting &#8211; I was wondering what exactly makes a group like this think they are worth avenging?</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Patso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Patso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#11 noname:
&quot;When America stops believing in it’s Ideals, America is dead!&quot;

Amen to that, brother, amen to that!

#13 Somebody:
&quot;All kidding aside, if torture is the only way you can save my life, I’ll settle for being avenged. I’d rather that than have the honor of the USA sullied.&quot;

#14 Mr. Fusion
&quot;Put me on that list too.&quot;

Sirs, I salute you! [Salutes.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#11 noname:<br />
&#8220;When America stops believing in it’s Ideals, America is dead!&#8221;</p>
<p>Amen to that, brother, amen to that!</p>
<p>#13 Somebody:<br />
&#8220;All kidding aside, if torture is the only way you can save my life, I’ll settle for being avenged. I’d rather that than have the honor of the USA sullied.&#8221;</p>
<p>#14 Mr. Fusion<br />
&#8220;Put me on that list too.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sirs, I salute you! [Salutes.]</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13,

&lt;i&gt;All kidding aside, if torture is the only way you can save my life, I’ll settle for being avenged. I’d rather that than have the honor of the USA sullied.&lt;/i&gt;

Put me on that list too.

I don&#039;t want you pleasuring your sadistic self in my name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13,</p>
<p><i>All kidding aside, if torture is the only way you can save my life, I’ll settle for being avenged. I’d rather that than have the honor of the USA sullied.</i></p>
<p>Put me on that list too.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want you pleasuring your sadistic self in my name.</p>
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		<title>By: Somebody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Somebody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, no need to get nasty.

If you&#039;re dealing with some poor f__k who thinks wearing a dynamite vest is his best chance to get laid, a few kind words and an offer of privacy with a goat should pretty much cover it.


All kidding aside, if torture is the only way you can save my life, I&#039;ll settle for being avenged.  I&#039;d rather that than have the honor of the USA sullied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, no need to get nasty.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re dealing with some poor f__k who thinks wearing a dynamite vest is his best chance to get laid, a few kind words and an offer of privacy with a goat should pretty much cover it.</p>
<p>All kidding aside, if torture is the only way you can save my life, I&#8217;ll settle for being avenged.  I&#8217;d rather that than have the honor of the USA sullied.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 02:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best I&#039;ve heard on the subject is Matthew Alexander who actually _DID_ break terrorists.

He wrote a book by the name  http://tinyurl.com/67uwok but I&#039;ve just hear him speak. 

He does a fantastic slap-down of these blowhard Jack Bauer wannabees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best I&#8217;ve heard on the subject is Matthew Alexander who actually _DID_ break terrorists.</p>
<p>He wrote a book by the name  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/67uwok" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/67uwok' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/67uwok</a> but I&#8217;ve just hear him speak. </p>
<p>He does a fantastic slap-down of these blowhard Jack Bauer wannabees.</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
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		<dc:creator>noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 01:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 10 Timuchin,

&quot;But we and they should be judged equally on torture on the international scene.&quot;

NO WE SHOULDN&#039;T

That is not what America has historically been about.

America has been about breaking from the old world and starting anew.  We don&#039;t judge ourselves by their standards, we judge our self by our American ideals.

Exactly who did George Washington compare himself to, when President?

Because everything America did was new, America set the standard, not Europe, not China or any other country.

America still has much of that attitude today, but it&#039;s being attacked and diminished.

When America stops believing in it&#039;s Ideals, America is dead!

Saying what you do (I guess for convenience)::
&quot;But we and they should be judged equally on torture on the international scene.&quot;

Is saying American Ideals are dead!

What you said, sounds like George Bush, and what a looser he was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 10 Timuchin,</p>
<p>&#8220;But we and they should be judged equally on torture on the international scene.&#8221;</p>
<p>NO WE SHOULDN&#8217;T</p>
<p>That is not what America has historically been about.</p>
<p>America has been about breaking from the old world and starting anew.  We don&#8217;t judge ourselves by their standards, we judge our self by our American ideals.</p>
<p>Exactly who did George Washington compare himself to, when President?</p>
<p>Because everything America did was new, America set the standard, not Europe, not China or any other country.</p>
<p>America still has much of that attitude today, but it&#8217;s being attacked and diminished.</p>
<p>When America stops believing in it&#8217;s Ideals, America is dead!</p>
<p>Saying what you do (I guess for convenience)::<br />
&#8220;But we and they should be judged equally on torture on the international scene.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is saying American Ideals are dead!</p>
<p>What you said, sounds like George Bush, and what a looser he was.</p>
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		<title>By: Timuchin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timuchin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you had asked these men what their comrades did for torture the Red Cross agents would have thrown up.  But just because they are barbaric doesn&#039;t meant that we should reduce our standards down to theirs.  But we and they should be judged equally on torture on the international scene.

Bush exported a minority of the interrogation and torture to barbaric third world countries that could exclude the news media.  Obama intends to export a majority to these countries for secret barbaric treatment.

Now maybe as a Muslim and a Kenyan he was an eyewitness to brutalities and became jaded to it.  Thus he would have no civilized barrier from doing the same to others.  Not even to fellow leftists, much like Stalin and Robespierre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you had asked these men what their comrades did for torture the Red Cross agents would have thrown up.  But just because they are barbaric doesn&#8217;t meant that we should reduce our standards down to theirs.  But we and they should be judged equally on torture on the international scene.</p>
<p>Bush exported a minority of the interrogation and torture to barbaric third world countries that could exclude the news media.  Obama intends to export a majority to these countries for secret barbaric treatment.</p>
<p>Now maybe as a Muslim and a Kenyan he was an eyewitness to brutalities and became jaded to it.  Thus he would have no civilized barrier from doing the same to others.  Not even to fellow leftists, much like Stalin and Robespierre.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Dodd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Dodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Obama has created a situation where it is no longer advantageous to take prisoners. Now maybe we can fight wars using the Spartan technique of taking no prisoners.

This could work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Obama has created a situation where it is no longer advantageous to take prisoners. Now maybe we can fight wars using the Spartan technique of taking no prisoners.</p>
<p>This could work.</p>
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		<title>By: deowll</title>
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		<dc:creator>deowll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama has stopped the CIA from leaning on prisoners. 

He farmed it out. That way if the prisoners end up dead it isn&#039;t our fault is it? I mean they weren&#039;t in American custody so how can we be be at fault? Of course there&#039;s nothing to prevent these guys from using methods the CIA  wouldn&#039;t have touched with a stick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has stopped the CIA from leaning on prisoners. </p>
<p>He farmed it out. That way if the prisoners end up dead it isn&#8217;t our fault is it? I mean they weren&#8217;t in American custody so how can we be be at fault? Of course there&#8217;s nothing to prevent these guys from using methods the CIA  wouldn&#8217;t have touched with a stick.</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
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		<dc:creator>noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 4 Benjamin, fair enough, your are correct about the interment camps.

I am outraged by us becoming an overly brutish form of government.  America appears to have no concerns for any one or thing except protecting wealth of it&#039;s wealthy citizens.

I know you repugnatons like that, I don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 4 Benjamin, fair enough, your are correct about the interment camps.</p>
<p>I am outraged by us becoming an overly brutish form of government.  America appears to have no concerns for any one or thing except protecting wealth of it&#8217;s wealthy citizens.</p>
<p>I know you repugnatons like that, I don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Mary Hand Grenade of Quiet Reflection</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sister Mary Hand Grenade of Quiet Reflection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should make them attend church and torture them slowly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should make them attend church and torture them slowly.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, I am not using the bad behavior of FDR to justify the rendition program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I am not using the bad behavior of FDR to justify the rendition program.</p>
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