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		<title>By: Uncle Don</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/08/30/indictment-of-coke-pepsi-and-big-business-an-incredible-video/comment-page-4/#comment-1572432</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#53:

The US Gov&#039;t prevented Vernor&#039;s (and other companies) from putting Stevia in their product soon after Ronald Reagan was inaugurated. 

Rumor had it that ADM (big corn company) confronted the FDA head and suggested he&#039;d be out of a job unless he banned Stevia in favor of corn syrup.

Vernor&#039;s was said to have a very unique flavor before the ban. It had nothing to do with what the customer&#039;s wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#53:</p>
<p>The US Gov&#8217;t prevented Vernor&#8217;s (and other companies) from putting Stevia in their product soon after Ronald Reagan was inaugurated. </p>
<p>Rumor had it that ADM (big corn company) confronted the FDA head and suggested he&#8217;d be out of a job unless he banned Stevia in favor of corn syrup.</p>
<p>Vernor&#8217;s was said to have a very unique flavor before the ban. It had nothing to do with what the customer&#8217;s wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: 888</title>
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		<dc:creator>888</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HFCS vs Sugar (or govt subsidized crops vs non-subsidized crops).
Thats the only issue I see here.

What indictment?!
Let our govt subsidize sugar from now on, and all Big Corporations will switch to using sugar in a heartbeat. There&#039;s no indictments, no conspiracies in it. It&#039;s called business (aka PROFIT).
Same goes with &quot;recycling&quot; (note I used quotes because our recucling programs have nothing to do with real recycling, aka reusing).

Costs of 1 day war in Iraq probably would cover entire nation&#039;s recycle costs. Get your priorities straight, Americans, before talking cheap.

I like the old chap in the video, but he says lot of BS there. Still - props to him for bringing a lot of unknown sodas to his local market. Hopefully his business is succesfuil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HFCS vs Sugar (or govt subsidized crops vs non-subsidized crops).<br />
Thats the only issue I see here.</p>
<p>What indictment?!<br />
Let our govt subsidize sugar from now on, and all Big Corporations will switch to using sugar in a heartbeat. There&#8217;s no indictments, no conspiracies in it. It&#8217;s called business (aka PROFIT).<br />
Same goes with &#8220;recycling&#8221; (note I used quotes because our recucling programs have nothing to do with real recycling, aka reusing).</p>
<p>Costs of 1 day war in Iraq probably would cover entire nation&#8217;s recycle costs. Get your priorities straight, Americans, before talking cheap.</p>
<p>I like the old chap in the video, but he says lot of BS there. Still &#8211; props to him for bringing a lot of unknown sodas to his local market. Hopefully his business is succesfuil.</p>
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		<title>By: deowll</title>
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		<dc:creator>deowll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to have store like that near me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to have store like that near me.</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
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		<dc:creator>noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 53 chuck,

Unfortunately that is the current operative definition of marketing.

&quot;It doesn’t mean you have a good product&quot;

Luckily Galco&#039;s doesn&#039;t seem to be an adherent to your definition.

Since it seems, very evidently, that Galco&#039;s customers feel Coke or Pepsi do not have a &quot;good product&quot; thereby Galco is in business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 53 chuck,</p>
<p>Unfortunately that is the current operative definition of marketing.</p>
<p>&#8220;It doesn’t mean you have a good product&#8221;</p>
<p>Luckily Galco&#8217;s doesn&#8217;t seem to be an adherent to your definition.</p>
<p>Since it seems, very evidently, that Galco&#8217;s customers feel Coke or Pepsi do not have a &#8220;good product&#8221; thereby Galco is in business.</p>
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		<title>By: gmknobl</title>
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		<dc:creator>gmknobl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s doing a good job but he&#039;s wrong on a few points.  

One is &quot;big business loves big government.&quot;  Not true.  Big business likes corrupt and fascist government (by definition).  Proper big government won&#039;t ever restrain the little business but will promote it over big business.  That&#039;s a thing most non-historians of government, or people who take their talking points from FOX won&#039;t ever understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s doing a good job but he&#8217;s wrong on a few points.  </p>
<p>One is &#8220;big business loves big government.&#8221;  Not true.  Big business likes corrupt and fascist government (by definition).  Proper big government won&#8217;t ever restrain the little business but will promote it over big business.  That&#8217;s a thing most non-historians of government, or people who take their talking points from FOX won&#8217;t ever understand.</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
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		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#50
the problem goes much deeper if you think about ALL products.
Do you know how many different tomatoes there are?
How about Onions?
FEW stores market more then 3-4 types of apples.

I see more adverts for CEREAL and the price is threw the roof for 10-14oz.  And looking at MALT-O-MEAL, the only reason for the higher price is PROFIT.  And if you read the label, you will wonder where the GRAINS went.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#50<br />
the problem goes much deeper if you think about ALL products.<br />
Do you know how many different tomatoes there are?<br />
How about Onions?<br />
FEW stores market more then 3-4 types of apples.</p>
<p>I see more adverts for CEREAL and the price is threw the roof for 10-14oz.  And looking at MALT-O-MEAL, the only reason for the higher price is PROFIT.  And if you read the label, you will wonder where the GRAINS went.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!</p>
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		<title>By: raddad</title>
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		<dc:creator>raddad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get a kick out of people who prefer &quot;real&quot; sugar.  Cane sugar is sucrose and is no more natural than fructose which is common in most fruit such as apples and bananas.  Sucrose is composed of two sugars, glucose and fructose. 
 
HFCS is sucrose that has been partially separated into fructose and glucose (because it is sweeter than sucrose).  This is the identical thing that happens when bees make honey and what happens when we digest sucrose.  When we consume &quot;real&quot; sugar we are consuming fructose.

//Am a chemist.
//Science spoils all the fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get a kick out of people who prefer &#8220;real&#8221; sugar.  Cane sugar is sucrose and is no more natural than fructose which is common in most fruit such as apples and bananas.  Sucrose is composed of two sugars, glucose and fructose. </p>
<p>HFCS is sucrose that has been partially separated into fructose and glucose (because it is sweeter than sucrose).  This is the identical thing that happens when bees make honey and what happens when we digest sucrose.  When we consume &#8220;real&#8221; sugar we are consuming fructose.</p>
<p>//Am a chemist.<br />
//Science spoils all the fun.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#52 - successful marketing means that people buy your product and that you have convinced many other people to sell your product. It doesn&#039;t mean you have a good product, or that you have given people a choice. (i.e MS-Windows)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#52 &#8211; successful marketing means that people buy your product and that you have convinced many other people to sell your product. It doesn&#8217;t mean you have a good product, or that you have given people a choice. (i.e MS-Windows)</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to taste Vernor&#039;s Ginger Ale again with Stevia as its sweetener -- like it used to be sweetened with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to taste Vernor&#8217;s Ginger Ale again with Stevia as its sweetener &#8212; like it used to be sweetened with.</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
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		<dc:creator>noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 50 chuck

&quot;successful at marketing a product that many people seem to like.&quot;

To the un-initiated, successful marketing implys people (the market) experienced all others competitors products and choose Coke or Pepsi.  

We know that is false.

As this stores shows, in it&#039;s simple, people way, when the American freedom of choice is allowed to flourish, people (the market) will not chuse Coke or Pepsi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 50 chuck</p>
<p>&#8220;successful at marketing a product that many people seem to like.&#8221;</p>
<p>To the un-initiated, successful marketing implys people (the market) experienced all others competitors products and choose Coke or Pepsi.  </p>
<p>We know that is false.</p>
<p>As this stores shows, in it&#8217;s simple, people way, when the American freedom of choice is allowed to flourish, people (the market) will not chuse Coke or Pepsi.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see this as an indictment of Coke or Pepsi. Both have been successful at marketing a product that many people seem to like.

It &lt;b&gt;is&lt;/b&gt; an indictment of the corn syrup lobby, and the corn-growers lobby. These are the same people who have convinced Congress that ethanol (from corn) is a good idea - even though it costs more than gasoline and uses more energy than gasoline to produce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see this as an indictment of Coke or Pepsi. Both have been successful at marketing a product that many people seem to like.</p>
<p>It <b>is</b> an indictment of the corn syrup lobby, and the corn-growers lobby. These are the same people who have convinced Congress that ethanol (from corn) is a good idea &#8211; even though it costs more than gasoline and uses more energy than gasoline to produce.</p>
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		<title>By: BoroTech</title>
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		<dc:creator>BoroTech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JCD,
I&#039;m sorry to see the Deli is closed.  I wish your family the best.
-- Thomas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JCD,<br />
I&#8217;m sorry to see the Deli is closed.  I wish your family the best.<br />
&#8211; Thomas</p>
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		<title>By: Salvatori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salvatori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#33 Cavities are caused by bacteria that eat various carbohydrates on your teeth, not just sugar alone. Processed breads and other starchy products can be just as bad for your teeth. Just brush your teeth after eating/drinking.

Sprecher&#039;s Root Beer (haven&#039;t had their others so I can&#039;t say) contains HFCS. Very flat flavor, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33 Cavities are caused by bacteria that eat various carbohydrates on your teeth, not just sugar alone. Processed breads and other starchy products can be just as bad for your teeth. Just brush your teeth after eating/drinking.</p>
<p>Sprecher&#8217;s Root Beer (haven&#8217;t had their others so I can&#8217;t say) contains HFCS. Very flat flavor, too.</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
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		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#46..
You got 1/2 of it..

The body is interesting.
It KNOWS what it wants, and will FORCE you to find it.  The problem is That it CANT GET you to EAT IT...so you eat everything you can...

Then comes the funny FATS..(not REAL/Natuaral fats)  there IS&#039; on the market a frying material called Liquid plastic...FULLY digestible PLASTIC.
NOT REALLY, it just dont STICK to anything internally, and is SUPPOSED to exit the body and leave nothing behind..Interesting, AS the body WANTS something but got NOTHING..so we EAT MORE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#46..<br />
You got 1/2 of it..</p>
<p>The body is interesting.<br />
It KNOWS what it wants, and will FORCE you to find it.  The problem is That it CANT GET you to EAT IT&#8230;so you eat everything you can&#8230;</p>
<p>Then comes the funny FATS..(not REAL/Natuaral fats)  there IS&#8217; on the market a frying material called Liquid plastic&#8230;FULLY digestible PLASTIC.<br />
NOT REALLY, it just dont STICK to anything internally, and is SUPPOSED to exit the body and leave nothing behind..Interesting, AS the body WANTS something but got NOTHING..so we EAT MORE.</p>
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