Rasmussen Reports – August 28, 2009:

Fifty-one percent (51%) of American adults say alcohol is more dangerous than marijuana, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Just 19% disagree and say pot is worse.

But 25% say both are equally dangerous. Just two percent (2%) say neither is dangerous.

Younger adults are more likely than their elders to view alcohol as the more dangerous of the two.

Nationally, 41% of likely voters think the United States should legalize and tax marijuana, but 49% are opposed.

President Obama’s new drug czar Gil Kerlikowske has signaled a shift away from the decades-old war on drugs toward more emphasis on health treatment for drug users. However, 54% of voters say illegal drug use is primarily a criminal justice issue rather than a matter of public health.




  1. Sister Mary Hand Grenade of Quiet Reflection says:

    From experience I find that there is really nothing worse than having to stomp the shit out of some obnoxious drunk when you are stoned off your ass and merely looking for pizza.

    We had a drunk stumble in off the street banging into the pews and finally went into the confessional. After a few minutes the Father entered the other side and asked, “can I help you my son.” And the drunk replied, “yeah, where the hell is the toilet paper?”

  2. Jägermeister says:

    While you guys gets stoned, the country is being raped by the politicians and their overlords.

    #32 – Sister Mary Hand Grenade of Quiet Reflection

    Why not introduce the alcoholic to some good ol’ fashioned stoning?

  3. spsffan says:

    Well, Hearst, yes, but the Mexicans were just a tool. The real reason was that they had recently come up with a process to turn hemp cheaply into paper. (Previously, it was costly.)

    Hearst owned large tracts of forest form which trees were cut to make newsprint, which his business used a whole lot of.

    Cheap hemp paper was about to undermine his tree-newsprint business.

    None of which is to say that Hearst wasn’t the Lou Dobbs of his day.

  4. green says:

    Everything in moderation, including moderation.

  5. Qon Quixote says:

    Neither one is bad in moderation. But when was the last time an American did anything in moderation.

    Driving down the freeway at 15 mph and going wow at every passing light pole is just as bad as 90 mph and feeling you are in control, disregarding the basic laws of physics..

  6. bill says:

    Is there a place where both are legal and readily available to anyone?

    What happens there?

    Eventually the abusers will go extinct right?

  7. Steve S says:

    Robots VS Werewolves.
    Who would win?

  8. Rich says:

    Which is more dangerous- herpes or gonorrhea? Gasoline or diesel? Tigers or hyenas? You get what I mean.

  9. cYaSK8 says:

    Pot cured my friends alcoholism. He’s sober now just a little high sometimes……

  10. bobbo, its so clear to me says:

    That would be gonorrhea, gasoline, and hyenas as the more dangerous in the pairing you present.

    Now, let me ask you: Which is more dangerous:

    herpes or Gasoline
    Tigers or diesel
    gonorrhea or hyenas?

    You know what I mean? I hope so because I don’t have a clue.

  11. AAAAAAAAAAA says:

    Fifty-one percent (51%) of American adults say
    “blah blah blah”. So it MUST be so!!! Who could disagree? Why it would be like arguing with the 47.9% of Americans who elected W in 2000.
    🙂

  12. RBG says:

    ‘Course, like you, the poll-takers have all the facts such as:

    “Their findings challenge the conventional wisdom that smoking marijuana is less harmful to health than inhaling tobacco smoke.

    The study, to be published in the journal Chemical Research in Toxicology Marijuana, found marijuana smoke caused significantly more damage to cells and DNA than tobacco smoke.”
    UPI
    http://tinyurl.com/kljggv

    “Experts have found one marijuana joint is equal to the effects (on lungs) of 2.5 to five cigarettes. But while there is well-established evidence of lung damage from cigarettes, research has shown conflicting results on marijuana use.”

    “Innately, it seems logical that marijuana would be a risk factor for COPD (chronic obstructive lung disease). The noxious fumes are identical except for the THC in marijuana and the nicotine in tobacco,” said (Lead author and respirologist Dr. Wan C.) Tan
    (via Canadian Medical Association Journal.)

    http://tinyurl.com/ckrs3r
    The Vancouver Sun

    Wonder what the poll numbers would be for:
    Which is more dangerous: Cigarettes or alcohol?

    RBG

  13. Wretched Gnu says:

    Oh RBG, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

    If a single joint = 2.5 cigarettes (in terms of lung damage), then the lungs of pot smokers are *far* healthier than those of tobacco smokers.

    For every 10 cigarettes the average smoker smokes, a pot smoker smokes 1 — if he’s a heavy user. And most heavy users use some water filtration.

    But even if cancer deaths to pot were anywhere close to those of cigarette smokers, that number wouldn’t even begin to approach the number of drunk driving deaths alone. And that’s ignoring all the other alcohol-related deaths…

    For those of you who don’t know that criminalization of marijuana was based entirely on racial fear, I suggest you look in any history book.

  14. Jägermeister says:

    More people dies from guns than RPGs, so RPGs should be legalized.

  15. BigBoyBC says:

    You guys can argue the virtue and the evils of pot, but you’re ignoring one unpredictable factor, people.

    We are people driven by our addictions. Physical, chemical or emotional, an addiction is an addiction.

    We need to really think this issue through before we act. Will the potential income from taxing pot, offset the potential cost from treating its abuse? I don’t know? Could legalizing pot contribute to the obesity problem? Maybe?

  16. hhopper says:

    I’ve seen thousands of people smoke pot and not one ever got into so much as a mean spirited argument.

    I’ve seen thousands of people drink alcohol and they either get mean, nasty and violent or incredibly stupid.

  17. Jägermeister says:

    #48 – hhopper

    Watch the first 39 seconds of this clip with James Randi. But then again… reality sucks for some.

  18. Number6 says:

    I’ve been in a room full of drunks, and I’ve been in a room full of pot heads.

    No contest, the pot head may be boring but never dangerous. The drunks are boring, boorish and sometimes dangerous.

  19. eaze says:

    Its an insult to cannabis to even put them in the same category. This poll only furthers the stereotype that the two can be compared in any way.

    Cannabis is not even an intoxicant as no component of it is toxic.

  20. ECA says:

    can I add a SUB, subject to this?

    deregulation of HEMP.
    would create markets NOT CONTROLLED by paper/wood products owners, Clothing manufacturers as well as open up a market for Wall board and such that would drive prices down Across the board.
    these 3 MAJOR markets would have to compete.
    Hemp can be used to create clothing, Building products(wall board) to replace SHEET ROCK type products, PAPER and books.
    Building homes and clothing and replacing MOST of the products made with WOOD and Pulp.
    renewable and re-grow-able, and TOTALLY uncontrolled.
    Synthetic cloths could be set aside for CHEAPER fibers..
    Paper products that we wouldnt need to worry about killing TREES..TP from HEMP would be nicer then using OLD GROWTH timber.

    this product could replace a good 1/3 of products in the USA. Including hemp oils for CARS and cooking and FUEL.

  21. Dennis says:

    While watching “The Policewomen of Broward County” I heard them refer to Reefer as a ‘Narcotic’. It is no such thing. It is a Class lebeled drug, but in no way should it be referred to as ‘Narcotic’. This type of ignorance is rampant though, especially in the folks who feel they know better than others.
    Why not let people make their own decisions, for better or worse, as that is what it used to mean to be ‘free’…..oh, wait….free now costs $300.00.

  22. amodedoma says:

    The land of the who and the home of the what?! Consensus, is there anything more ignorant? Being part of the majority has more to do with sociology than with truth. It’s democracy’s fallacy. In general people who adapt a consensus view have little or no intellect. They need consensus to justify the arguments their brain can’t defend.
    There, I said it, Screw the zombies! I’m going to smoke a fat chronic blunt…

  23. ECA says:

    53, and 54..

    STATE a reason..

    JUST because a GROUP wants to do something doesnt mean it RIGHT…
    there has to be Disparity..
    A difference in opinion..
    IF’ there is NO opposing THOUGHT…it is stagnant..

  24. BertDawg says:

    Number6,

    Thank you for the way you ended that previous pot thread. I would have thanked you there, but saw little or no chance of improving the way you punctuated that sometimes contentious exchange.

  25. VisiblePerson says:

    Wow, my two favorites. If I had to give up one, though, it would be alcohol, no question.

  26. deowll says:

    I’d say you are better off without either. Some of the strongest grass/hash can do a number on you.

    I’d rate alcohol in the distilled form as being slightly more dangerous.

    Both can and has ruined a lot of lives.

  27. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz says:

    I like both at the same time 🙂

  28. slugfestburbguy says:

    Ask the Cops. What would they prefer, a booze riot or a dope riot? Hint: Corralling dope heads is easy, just coax them into the paddy wagons with candy bars, chips and soda. A little like herding cats but much safer than herding youngsters hopped up on testosterone and booze.


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