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Scouts will now be a little worse prepared after they were banned from carrying their traditional penknives due to the fears of those in charge of health and safety.
New advice published in Scouting, the official in-house magazine, says neither Scouts nor their parents should bring penknives to camp except in “specific” situations. Scouts have traditionally been taught how to use knives correctly, using them on camping trips to cut firewood or carve tools. At one point Scouts were allowed to carry a sheath knife on their belt as part of their uniform although this is no longer the case. In recent years the Scout Association guidance has been that parents should carry knives to camps or meetings.
Dave Budd, a knife-maker who runs courses training Scouts about the safe use of blades, wrote that the growing problem of knife crime meant action had to be taken.
“Sadly, there is now confusion about when a Scout is allowed to carry a knife,” he wrote. “The series of high-profile fatal stabbings [has] highlighted a growing knife culture in the UK. “I think it is safest to assume that knives of any sort should not be carried by anybody to a Scout meeting or camp, unless there is likely to be a specific need for one. In that case, they should be kept by the Scout leaders and handed out as required.”
Leave it to the Brits to suck all the fun out of being a boy. I’ve been thinking lately, when we are done with this war on terror…we need to invade England.
In other news, residents of the UK have been ordered to eliminate beef and other meats from their diets, since these foods also would perhaps lead to the people attempting to possess steak knives. Similarly, citizens have been ordered to allow their lawns to grow continuously, since lawn mowers are also being confiscated. Nail clippers are now being closely studied, and a report is forthcoming.
Scissors! Must ban scissors! It’s not just the running, and the stabbing, but the society threatening snipping!
Exterminate! Exterminate! EXTERMINATE!
Assuming I havnt been banned for being Vegan (Yeah, I mean you Mister Moderator
), is it a good idea for young boys to be carrying knives about?
I was in the NZ Scouts years ago, and I had a pocket knife and never tried to stab someone. I actually caught the scout leaders ear with a fish hook while I was learning to fly fish, he walked behind me for some unknown reason and got snagged in the ear!
Seriously though, Eagle Scouts in particular are a scary breed. If you go through the list of Eagle Scouts, a very large number seem to end up in jail.
Should small boys carry knives everywhere? I dont think so.
#6
You could make tender or kindling with your pocket knife. However, yes, you would normally use a hatchet to make your firewood.
#10
It is not just useful, it is one of the 10 essentials for camping, hiking, backpacking or mountaineering.
Scouting in England, without a trusty pocket knife at the ready, would make the uniform a magnet for every rampant pedophile and neo-facist knee cap fancier from Dover to the Isle of Sky.
Arm the little blighters.
# 21 Faxon said,”…citizens have been ordered to allow their lawns to grow continuously, since lawn mowers are also being confiscated.”
You’ve gone too far, Faxon. It’s illegal in the UK NOT to mow your lawn. Keep it short lest you receive a citation for antisocial behavior. Uh, sorry: behaviour.
I am from the UK and practice bushcraft. I tried being in the scouts but all we did was ride bikes, tie knots (not sure how they will cut the string now) and run cake stalls. So in all truth the scouts are uselessnow anyway. I joined the army cadets instead, that was much better we actually learned to survive! However this pathetic anti knife culture is stupid, almost all knife attacks involve a kitchen knife. And we can be arrested for carrying anything that could be a weapon if the police decide we intend to use it as a weapon. Examples include walking sticks, screwdrivers, pens, hammers, drinks bottles oh and of course maglites.
The crazy thing is we all carry lethal weapons all the time, our hands! And the members of society that would carry knives have started to keep wolf hounds, doberman dogs, etc that they train to attack and just walk them and use them as legal weapons in a truly dispicable way. So this kind of poxy nanny state drivel really solves nothing, so I will keep carrying my Gerber gator, leatherman, machete and I have a chainsaw for some zombie beheading
just had a thought if you left school at 16 to train and work as a electrician, chef or carpenter, you could not buy your tools as they are officially offensive weapons by law and only people over 18 can buy them. So the law is preventing you from training and working! I wonder if someone could sue?
My first knife was presented to me by my Scout leader (actually it was Cubs) It was a Swiss Army Knife with my name in-graved on it.
Scouting without knives…doesnt sound like much fun. kids who want to carry knives will and Id rather have a program that trains the kids proper handling.
Ill compromise… take the knives away, but the BSA has to give up its homophobic policy.
jaywontdart says: If you go through the list of Eagle Scouts, a very large number seem to end up in jail.
Possibly you saw this list?
http://tinyurl.com/2c2yz8
#30
Proof? I would bet that the number ES that end up in jail is a smaller percentage than that of society in general. Currently, in the US, 2.4% of the population has been incarcerated and there have been over 2 million ES. That makes for 48000 ES that have been incarcerated since 1912. I bet the actual number is lower than that.
#30 – Olo – That list is NOT complete! Unless I’ve had my qualification recalled. Oh, my!
Animby, edit the page and add yourself.
I stopped carrying anything even vaguely knife like. Just in case some law officer want to make a case out of what I have on my person. Even some small eye glass repair tools, could be claimed as “burglar tools”. I don’t know what they’ll do if someone come out with a cellphone and pocket knife combo.
BTW, they better keep all those A-Team and McGiver DVDs off the shelf. They teach you how to make weapons from off the shelf, household items. Even a turkey baster could be deadly.
Pocket knife vs…
LEATHERMAN?? no contest
GUN?? no contest..
A REAL knife?? NO contest..
Someone BIGGER THEN YOU?? no contest..
In all cases…RUN AWAY
Thanks. Been working as an electrician for a little while now so this is useful.