I was reading a CNN poll someone sent me via Twitter suggesting that Obama’s health care reform speech Wednesday night favor his health care plans — a 14-point gain among speech-watchers. Here’s the last paragraph:
The sample of speech-watchers in this poll was 45 percent Democratic and 18 percent Republican. Our best estimate of the number of Democrats in the voting age population as a whole indicates that the sample is about 8-10 points more Democratic than the population as a whole.
Disclosure: I don’t particularly support or oppose Obama’s health care plan, but it is clear that the US media is a joke and pro-Obama.
The world has been saying for a long time that the US media is so biased that it borders on tabloid. I think this has slowly come from the lack of good journalism. Many for TV are hired for looks then ability.
You really have to read outside the US media to get a better perspective.
I like BBC and Canadian news agencies.
Well of course most media is a total joke. The problem is that most journalists (at least those in the national spotlight) go to university where they are brainwashed to look at the world in a certain way and their reporting adheres to that script no matter if it exists or not. People may complain about Limbaugh, Savage, etc. (personally I think they run intellectually dishonest shows) but the difference is THEY ADMIT TO BEING PARTISAN. CNN thinks they are playing it straight up the middle.
In Salon.com Camille Paglia, wrote one of the best paragraphs about this I have read in the last couple of years. (yes there are still some thinkers on the left)
“But affluent middle-class Democrats now seem to be complacently servile toward authority and automatically believe everything party leaders tell them. Why? Is it because the new professional class is a glossy product of generically institutionalized learning? Independent thought and logical analysis of argument are no longer taught. Elite education in the U.S. has become a frenetic assembly line of competitive college application to schools where ideological brainwashing is so pandemic that it’s invisible. The top schools, from the Ivy League on down, promote “critical thinking,” which sounds good but is in fact just a style of rote regurgitation of hackneyed approved terms (“racism, sexism, homophobia”) when confronted with any social issue. The Democratic brain has been marinating so long in those clichés that it’s positively pickled. “
Misleading headline.
If you do a survey tonight and ask the respondents for their party affiliation you’re going to get ratios like this.
These numbers make perfect sense, and most other polls will likely yield similar results.
#23
Misleading headline. agreed
if you click on the link to get the poll results on the cnn site you get the qualifier in large type
“18% of the respondents who participated in tonight’s survey
identified themselves as Republicans, 45% identified themselves
as Democrats, and 37% identified themselves as Independents.”
before getting to the results.
it seems like a worthless poll but what the hey these 24hr news networks have to keep talking about something.
The real question is why so few identified themselves as Republicans
a) not many Republicans left
b) CNN can’t find them because they are not willing to talk to any one but Fox
c) CNN purposely skewed the sample then forgot to keep it a secret in the small print. “D’oh!”
Given the misleading headline and past submissions, it is clear that the submitter is a joke and is anti-Obama
#1 What I find even more ironic, it’s the other pot, calling the pot black.
#11 I see you’re still asleep.
@#1 Nicely put. I hold Obama in a skeptical regard, but I’ll give him another year before anything he has done so far has any real impact and I’ll judge him then. All this blab (as in blabbermouth) is just static.
The Republicans represent an extremely conservative faction and the notion that those of us who won the election with a solid majority should compromise 50/50 with those who won’t… well then why have elections?
-Barney Frank
#29 – Olo,
Is he wrong? I mean, he *is* speaking of a 50/50 split. If only 25% of the country wants something, should we really be willing to give them a 50/50 stake?
I’m not saying don’t cut them in. And I certainly think Barney Frank talks a little too much and thinks too little. But the core of what he’s saying isn’t wrong.
Wow, they found 18 republicans who watch CNN?? I thought all of the morons watched fox.
(reality has a liberal bias)
Yea the media is supposed to be a government watchdog. The only media I still know that holds to that idea is WorldNetDaily, and that site is a bit wacko.
The problem I think started when you had people going into journalism because they ‘wanted to change the world.’ Which means you want to change it TO something, and you then start supporting governments that say the same.
Also having professional schools of journalism probably doesn’t help. It used to be just a beat job like a cop. Now, they are teaching it as some sort of elite position.
Former Alex…I think Frank IS right.
These days most news polls are design to influence thought instead of reflect it. Looks like even CNN felt Obama’s speech blew chunks so were forced to create a poll as a way to spin it in a positive light.
#11 Awake pretty well nailed it.
Anyone who criticizes this as biased, a bad sample, cheer-leading, or whatever — either didn’t bother to read the article which clearly identified the bias or doesn’t care that the article disclosed the inherent bias and offered explanations for it.
Only critique I have is that they could have given broken out numbers for self described democrats, republicans, and independents, but even that is problematic because all we have is self-descriptions. It might be out of fashion to claim yourself as a republican these days if you’re not a social conservative, since that’s the core of the party now, and not the fiscal conservatives who used to hold that position.
#9 Um GE is going to get billions from Cap and trade and owns NBC. Nearly every major media outlet is owned or controlled by socialist.
First off, I am not an American so I dont know if my next statement is true: Am I wrong or is the DEM to GOP ratio in the survey about the same as the DEM to GOP ratio in Congress?
If it is, then that means the survey pretty much matched the population of the audience.
CNN SUCKS, and moonbats like it that way.
Guilherme, clearly you have pissed off the loons…criticizing their propaganda arm…correctly.
For example, about Congressman who said “you lied” to Obama, it was reported his opponent recieved a few hundred thousand in contributions…
It was not reported the Congressman’s web sit crashed, no doubt from folks like me saying “right on,” and wanting to donate to his re-election…
I’d wager he receives 10 fold what his opponent does, yet CNN will not report it.
CNN met its waterloo, in the person of Obama, it will not report news unless it can be spun to aid him.
Some of you people really crack me up.
Guilherme is one of the best editors JCD has brought on board in a long time. As he is from Brazil, he has been spared for the most part, of having his brain soaked in the fluoridated machinations of U.S. flavoured, subliminal media manipulation and dogma.
Nor has had a lifetime of our brand of left-right ignorology (that would be the “Ology of Ignorance”) beaten into him to pollute his ability to see the true reality staring him in the face.
His posts and comments are plain and simple common sense observations that are quite common amongst those who are from another country. -this is especially true of those who are from non-western cultures.
Commonsense as some may [not] know, was bred out of the majority of our populous many decades ago and replaced with a virulent, backwards ideology, as is evident in many here.
He provides a much needed counter-balance and outside perspective to this blog as is evident by the laughable remarks many of you make against him.
Sadly, as many “foreigners” have noted in the past, this type of immature arrogance is uniquely American.
-s
#19. I think you are confusing Fox News with Fox Broadcasting. It is true that the Fox Network decided not to preempt “So You Think You Can Dance.” However, Obama’s address to Congress was carried by the Fox News Channel, as well as Fox Business.