BALTIMORE (AP) — The nonprofit housing group ACORN has fired two employees at its Baltimore office who were seen on hidden-camera video giving advice to a man posing as a pimp and a woman pretending to be a prostitute.
Fox News Channel broadcast excerpts from the video Thursday. Those excerpts showed a man and woman asking about buying a house and how to account on tax forms for the woman’s income. An ACORN employee advises the woman to list her occupation as “performance artist.”
What is amazing to me is that these idiots didn’t even attempt to deceive the “officials”. Good work all around.
“performance artists!”
These Acorn people should be ashamed of themselves! Why didn’t they go for “Corporate Bank Lobbyist” or “Fox Commentator”?
I mean show some fraking creativity!
#32- part of the whole ploy was that the prostitute was going to bring up two 15 year olds from el salvador(or ecuador) to work in her house and the acorn people said that they should use them as deductions.
#41 So it’s only right if your team does it. But hey, I commend you for defending the rights of all ho’s out there.
Yah want to know how people can tell you and your buddies are truly blindly partisan bobo? You and they claim to be for doing good yet when people on your side gets caught twice trying to help someone set up a house of prostitution in public housing using illegal immigrant underage teenage girls you defend them for doing lending their support to the cause.
You don’t stand for right. You don’t even care about right. If you did you would condemn wrong whenever and where ever you find it. You blindly support your partisans and to bleep with right.
Based on where you’ve gone so for I’d say you’d support your partisans even if they did even more unspeakable things than support child prostitution.
Of course it’s kind of hard to get lower than that isn’t it?
If this isn’t what you want to support you need to change who you are supporting and what you are saying because the message that you do or just don’t care is coming across loud and clear.
#32 – Harold: In the longer versions of the video, the “applicants” tell the ACORN rep they are bringing in a group of 13-15 year old girls from Ecuador to whore for a year.
They are advised they can probably only get away with listing two or three of them as dependents.
While prostitution MAY be a victimless crime (and there are lots of prostitutes that might argue with you) it is still a crime where this video was made.
#26
So your defense point out where they are victims? That makes it ok? What it really does is make it appear that you’re saying that it’s not really wrong. It’s a bad idea to start calling bad actions good.
#46
Let me be clearer then, rather than just “appearing”. What ACORN is doing is right, and it is a VERY bad idea to make good things look bad to score political points.
That’s what this is about. Ruin a few peoples lives because they are on the other side of the political fence from you. Always a good idea, unless of course the other side does it.
And all the people who aren’t homeless now becouse of ACORN, well that’s just too bad for them. You’ve scored your political points, you have a home, what’s the problem. Ruin that organization, ok I assume you’ll step up and find them homes? Of course not, be honest, you aren’t going to. You wont care about them in the least as you respond to this.
Oh yes, again I forgot that caring about those less fortunate is just PC nonsense.
#47
What those particular two people did was wrong, especially once the underage immigrants were mentioned and they didn’t blink an eye.
But you are right about one thing, all the good work that acorn does is in danger from their carelessness. The people attacking now of course don’t care … how many people has the guy who made this film helped. None of course.
But those two are responsible, they gave the bad guys ammunition.
Now THAT’s service! (as in customer service, don’t misunderstand me here
Nobody here is trying to defend child prostitution or even fraud. Get real. Those people got fired and rightly so. But the implication is that everyone in the organization would do the same thing, all the way up to the top, and that’s just false. Half a dozen other offices where they tried this scam ran them off, but we don’t get to see _that_ video.
Why won’t they release _all_ the video?
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# 18 Alfred1:
“…he commanded ACORN to make it happen.”
I am amazed at the power you ascribe to a man who has been dead for 37 years. Wikipedia says “His organizing skills were focused on improving the living conditions of poor communities across North America.”
(Any of you who are interested can buy his books at Amazon, or you can probably find several of them at your local public library.)
About ACORN they say “ACORN…is a community-based organization in the USA that advocates for low- and moderate-income families by working on neighborhood safety, voter registration, health care, affordable housing, and other social issues.”
This is known as community organizing. Here’s another example: where I now live, community organizations and environmental groups have managed to get the city-county and state governments to crack down on air pollution by chemical plants located in the poorer neighborhoods, leading to fewer cancer deaths and lower rates of learning disabilities in children.
If you find these kinds of actions and goals “truly misguided and evil,” I don’t know what else to say.
I have always believed that if Jesus were alive today, he’d be doing _exactly_ this kind of work.
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# 29 mcosmi:
“Acorn is nothing but a vehicle to hand out taxpayer money to people who dont pay taxes.”
Uh, that’s kind of the purpose of the organization’s existence, isn’t it? Are you saying only the well-off should receive assistance? That “income redistribution” should only flow upward? What shall we do with the poor, then? “Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?”
Bah! Humbug!
We have this weird law in Maryland that says it’s illegal to tape someone talking, without their permission. So since one ACORN office was in MD. They jumped on the investigative reporters for their efforts. Nice to have stupid laws, that protect the criminals. And screw anyone trying to get the goods on them. Although I’m sure the FBI can get away with it, anywhere, for any reason. But seeing how they dropped the ball pre-9-11. We shouldn’t hold our breath waiting for them to check on ALL the little bad guys. Just don’t trust any biz, where the law protects them from being found out.
Meet Mr Disgusted. Executive Vice President for Bonus Acquisition, Acorn International.
#51,
Yes, because everyone who disagrees with you must have a selfish motive. Of course you believe that, because you only know selfish motives.
It seems incomprehensible to you that someone might actually care, might actually want to put effort into helping others. That’s not possible in your mind, so it must be for selfish reasons.
What a small, sad world that must be.
So those f**ktards who get thousand of dollars per hour to help bakers and corporations steal billions of your money in corrupt deals with the Gov. are fine, but the people who are trying to help others without judging are criminals… what a fucked-up country you have… the bigger your crime the safer you are.
#43 Say what?
Better get off the blogs and back into the Remedial Reading Class there, Pedro!
#19
“Alfred1, you don’t think Gisele Bündchen is hot?”
She is damn good looking but far from top flight in Victoria Secret terms. She was never the top model there.
Yet again we here from both sides in the game called…
“My side is always right and your side is always wrong”.
ACORN is corrupt, well duh.
The far right are nuts, well duh
The far left are socialists, well duh.
You guys argue over this petty crap while the whole world goes down the tubes, it would be funny if it was not so bad.
54 bahramks said,”people who are trying to help others without judging are criminals…”
You are off base, my friend. If these people had helped a young prostitute to find housing, three cheers. But, instead, they went on to encourage criminal acts. And, if that is ok in your country, then mine is not the only one fucked up.
# 47. Acorn may have done many things right but at two locations when they had the chance to do the right thing they didn’t.
It should be obvious that the tow young people who did the videos using their own resources didn’t check out every location nor were they trying to lour in people by being less than forthright about the misdeeds they planned to commit.
I think eleven people from the organization also got arrested the same week for voter fraud in Florida. This was by no means the first arrest made for voter fraud.
The fact that the two were able to find more than one location willing to facilitate their plans combined with the rather numerous cases of voter fraud strongly suggests that if you had the resources and wanted to look you could find a heck of lot of evil.
The situation with Acorn is kind of like finding a couple of fleas on your dog. You don’t know how many fleas it has but you do know it needs to be treated for fleas.
# 59 deowll:
“The situation with Acorn is kind of like finding a couple of fleas on your dog. You don’t know how many fleas it has but you do know it needs to be treated for fleas.”
Okay, but the treatment doesn’t need to involve killing the dog.