Pointless may be the wrong word since the point of it was to give taxpayer money to defense contractors.

U.S. President Barack Obama has told east European states he is backing away from plans for an anti-missile shield there, in a move that may ease Russian-U.S. ties but fuel fears of resurgent Kremlin influence.

Russia said it would welcome abandonment of the plans, which have been a major source of Russian-U.S. tensions.

Poland said Obama would announce a final decision later on Thursday (1400 GMT) on a project that has raised the prospect of multi-billion dollar contracts for U.S. defense giants.

The shield, involving interceptor missiles in Poland and a radar complex in the Czech republic, was promoted by Obama’s predecessor George W. Bush to defend against any missile launches from “rogue” states such as Iran and North Korea.




  1. beardly says:

    #40 There should be a check box asking if you RTFA.

    It is not like Obama just woke up one day and said ‘Let’s remove the missile shield.’ Robert Gates (Republican *gasp*) and his crew most likely came to Obama with the idea.

    It sounds like the new shield will be more functional and be up quicker.

    But name calling is more more fun on the internet to make you feel smarter.

  2. bobbo, the persecuted eugenicist says:

    #40–OHHH!! SNAP==good idea Ah-Yea: “It should be a requirement that the link needs to be clicked to post.”

    Quite a challenge to DU. It would actually be a public service to the public at large and anyone who actually posts here. It would inhibit spam posting and trolling.

    Excellent idea.

  3. badtimes says:

    #29- absolutely correct. Declining prices for oil, coupled with unrest in Poland and the Slav countries. The myth of Reagan single-handedly bringing down the USSR is just that- a myth.
    #9, 40, etc- you don’t really expect anyone to click on a link and read?! hehehe

  4. Rick Cain says:

    Europe needs the defense shield, they have no militaries ya know!

  5. Uncle Dave says:

    #44: So let them build their own on their own dime.

  6. RSweeney says:

    I guess the Iranians are celebrating that they don’t need stealth technology for those ICBM’s they aren’t making for the nuclear weapons they aren’t making from the enriched uranium they haven’t made from all those peaceful centrifuges they accidentally placed underground to threaten the great satan who they actually love.

  7. Lisa says:

    I hope this is a positive move in the right direction for our country.

  8. pedro says:

    #39 Get back to us when you start getting in touch with reality.

  9. noname says:

    # 34 Phydeau

    “Oh how cute… pedro”

    Yeah, he’s like Marc Perkel pet squirrel Ganesha sucking on watermelon peel and about just as smart too.

  10. MikeN says:

    Well if Obama is bringing in a new and better system, why aren’t Poland and half-Czechoslovakia okay with it?

    I don’t have a problem with not defending the whole world, but why does Obama have to lie about it?

  11. soundwash says:

    -on second thought, given that all the major powers have a wealth of covert electromagnetic weapons, all missile technology is a complete waste of resources, time and money.

    Think about, Tesla and others obsoleted this technology in the late 1800′s early 1900′s. -before our current tech even got off the ground.

    -How is that we have made insane advances in many areas of technology yet we still launch our “best” weapons and fly to the space station with technology that 70+years old. -Rockets.

    Why would anyone still honestly believes this?

    -basically, we are using over complex and overpriced WWII era V2 rockets (and technology) to fight [and fly into space] in the 21st century.

    -please.

    As long as you continue to play in the sandbox, the sandbox is all you will ever know.

    knock, knock, -anyone home?

    -s

  12. deowll says:

    I wonder exactly how many allies we are going to have left?

    If people think you won’t stick by them they aren’t going to stick by you.

    I’d say Obama and his Secretary of State have a real way with other countries. They PO most of our former allies. The ones they don’t PO were already our enemies. The the best of my knowledge they’ve made no new friends.

  13. Alfred1 says:

    We are bankrupt…on that basis alone, we need to stop all this…of course that will result in WWIII…the end of PAX Americana…

    But we are bankrupt.

    From what I heard, this protected both Europe and us…and they must start building it now…so its ready when Iran has the tech to reach both Europe and us…

    Amazing, on the day the UN says Iran can build a nuke…we stop this…

    It was defensive…I fail to see how anyone being defended by it, could object…

    But, we are bankrupt…unless we return to policies that made us wealthy…we can’t afford it…and WWIII will begin soon.

  14. Ah_Yea says:

    Thank you, bobbo. We can only dream of the day when the posters are informed before posting.

    Rsweeny: Time to wake up.
    “Experts at the world’s top atomic watchdog are in agreement that Tehran has the ability to make a nuclear bomb and is on the way to developing a missile system able to carry an atomic warhead”
    http://breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9AP714G0&show_article=1

    MikeN: “why aren’t Poland and half-Czechoslovakia okay with it?”

    Pretty simple. A sea based missile defense means Poland and the Czech’s cannot suck on the American teat in exchange for land we don’t need.

  15. Ralph, the Bus Driver says:

    #53, Pedro,

    So it didn’t take you long to change your handle back from Pedro to Alfred. Why not stay with just one handle through the entire thread?

  16. pedro says:

    #55 How’s the trip on that short bus?

  17. Alfred1 says:

    #55 I think you are a racist bus driver…you wouldn’t say that if Pedro were a white man’s name…

    In the interest of fairness and diversity, you should be fired…who’s your boss?

  18. noname says:

    # 55 Ralph, the Bus Driver,

    Looks like you nailed him or whatever Alfred1/pedro is.

    One sitting and two posts, nice one Alfred1.

    Still working on that patent for “Occam’s Veg-O-Matic”?

  19. Ralph, the Bus Driver says:

    Alfred / pedro,

    Driving the short bus is great!!! Especially knowing both your personalities are back there.

    And I love the way you threw in the racist element. Go ahead, guess what color I am.

  20. Thomas says:

    #29, #43
    Not true. It is not at all obvious that the USSR would have collapsed on its own. “Always in motion is the future” as the saying goes and who knows what might have changed in the USSR over the ensuing decades that might have prevented its collapse. Reagan’s build up was directly responsible for causing the USSR to collapse. Even the Russians admit it.

    Secondly, it was very much a war. Intelligence, sub technology, satellite technology, covert operation technology the list of ways in which we outpaced the Soviets and helped force an end to that regime are legion. We very much beat them in the Cold War and even they admit it.

    RE: Pulling all our bases out and protect only our own

    How well did that work in 1914 and 1939?

    #51
    > given that all the major
    > powers have a wealth of
    > covert electromagnetic weapons,
    > all missile technology
    > is a complete waste of
    > resources, time and money.

    Not even remotely true. First, many modern missiles are protected against EMP. Second, missile technology is by far the most effective military weapon. Third, we already have missiles to which even we don’t have a counter measure much less anyone else. I’d rather spend my money on missile technology than say tanks.

    RE: Rockets

    Only about a half dozen countries have any technology to shoot down such objects. It is far more complicated than you give it credit. It is complete fantasy to think that every country has a magic ray gun they can use to shoot down anything that comes at them.



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