This is what the American media is all about. And for anyone who hasn’t figured it out yet, they all lie.




  1. RBG says:

    Funny, Rick Sanchez seems to have no problem with his own station’s marketing bumfodder that “unfairly maligned” and continues to malign the competition.

    “The Most Trusted Name in News,”
    they brag.

    Well not according to the people who vote with their eyeballs as reflected by viewership numbers.

    “In terms of regular viewers (Nielsen Ratings), CNN rates as the United States’ number two cable news network. (Nielsen Cume Ratings).”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN

    “2008: Channel by Channel
    Fox News, the ratings leader…
    http://tinyurl.com/nmnfok

    Despite its domestic standing, CNN remains a distant second in international news coverage, reaching just over half of the audience of the older BBC World News.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN

    CNN, Rick Sanchez… You Lie!

    It’s like their other bit of marketing hyperbole:

    “CNN = Politics” “The Best Political Team on Television”

    Now Sanchez, go back to reporting on fluff other than your own belly button lint.

    RBG

  2. RBG says:

    Funny, Rick Sanchez seems to have no problem with his own station’s marketing bumfodder that “unfairly maligned” and continues to malign the competition.

    “The Most Trusted Name in News,”
    they brag.

    Well not according to the people who vote with their eyeballs as reflected by viewership numbers.

    “In terms of regular viewers (Nielsen Ratings), CNN rates as the United States’ number two cable news network. (Nielsen Cume Ratings).”
    www:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN

    “2008: Channel by Channel
    Fox News, the ratings leader…”
    www:tinyurl.com/nmnfok

    Despite its domestic standing, CNN remains a distant second in international news coverage, reaching just over half of the audience of the older BBC World News.
    www:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN

    CNN, Rick Sanchez…
    You
    Lie!

    It’s like their other bit of marketing hyperbole:

    “CNN = Politics” “The Best Political Team on Television”

    Now Sanchez, go back to reporting on fluff other than your own belly button lint.

    RBG

  3. jccalhoun says:

    Are you just trolling or willfully misunderstanding?

    Why do you keep bringing up Glenn Beck? I was not talking about Glenn Beck. Glenn Beck has not posted on here claiming to be a high school drop out and claiming to believe in creationism.

    When you attribute a premise to an opponent, and he calls it a straw man, that is, a position he doesn’t hold…

    That is the refutation…no more is needed.
    Which is why I wrote: even if you didn’t mention the economy, calling it a “straw man” is not a refutation of the assertion: Your argument is attributing malice where there is no evidence of any. Your argument is attributing everything bad that has happened as being directly caused by or taken advantage of by Obama.

    That part after the colon. That’s the assertion that you have not refuted by saying “That’s a straw man.”

    As far as “ad hominem” is concerned, that still isn’t what it means. Even if it were true that, “Ad hominem is a fallacy because the messenger is irrelevant, immaterial and incompetent when trying to determine the truth of the message.” it isn’t an “ad hominem” to say that one belief is only slightly above another. That is what you said was an “ad hominem.” Even by your own definition that is not an “ad hominem.”

    Moreover, I am not “trying to determine the truth of the message” but rather the likelihood that it is true. The likelihood that the sky is falling and whether or not the sky actually is falling are two different things. No matter how much you say “obama is out to ruin the country” it doesn’t make it very likely. I don’t know if it is true or not because I am not a mind reader and can’t know what Obama is really trying to do. All I know is that it seems really really unlikely. He may end up ruining the country but I doubt it. However, even if he does, that is still no reason to believe that he did it on purpose.

    Logic is the study of arguments.
    No, that’s Rhetoric. Logic is reasoning.

  4. Alfred1 says:

    #102 Not tolling or willfully misunderstanding…try stating your reference and don’t presume we know what you are thinking…

    And you are misstating my position, I DO NOT attribute everything bad to Obama…I see a motive behind his actions that is bad for “we the people.”

    I noted his campaign was against the war, deficits…he ran as pragmatic centrist who would go line by line and delete government programs that don’t work.

    Instead we have a war mongerer who budgets the biggest deficits ever, who doesn’t let anyone read bills that are filled with programs that don’t work, earmarks, political kickbacks…pure waste…

    And our money is being debased, which seems to be purposeful…and historically ushers in despotism…

    The growing consensus of ecconomists is his stimulus isn’t working…and we really need the money spent wisely, not wasted…but is he reversing course? No…he will continue to throw away billions of borrowed dollars.

    It requires complete ignorance of history, or willful malice, to do to our economy, what Obama & crew are doing.

  5. dkitchen says:

    Nice impersonation of Olberman

  6. Alfred1 says:

    #102 Logic is the study of arguments.
    No, that’s Rhetoric. Logic is reasoning.

    Logic, from the Greek λογική (logiké)[1] is the art and science of reasoning.[2] More specifically, it is defined by the Penguin Encyclopedia to be “The formal systematic study of the principles of valid inference and correct reasoning”.[3] -Wikipedia

    In other words, logic is the study of arguments.

    There is formal logic, the study of patterns, and informal…the latter is what we do in debates, arguments…

    TO call this correct definition “Rhetoric” is odd.

  7. bob says:

    Greasy scum , as usual , you ‘slanted’ it so the protesters looked like ‘kooks’.

    piss off , lying scum. . . . . .

  8. Mr. Fusion says:

    #105, Alphie,

    Logic is based upon realities. Attributes. It either is or it isn’t. Black and white. Thus if there are raindrops falling, it is logical to state it is raining. Logic is fact dependent.

    Rhetoric, debate, and / or opinion is based upon impressions. Variables. Fuzzy conclusions dependent upon the observer. Rhetoric does not need rationality to prevail, only be more convincing to the judge. Thus if there are water drops falling, we could argue Angels are crying.

    Your link does not suggest logic is anything about arguments. It is “valid inference and correct reasoning”. Try reading that again after your meds kick in.

  9. jccalhoun says:

    I guess Rhetoric departments around the world will have to change their names then since Alfred1 says they aren’t accurately named… I’ll be sure to tell my department chair that we need to change all the courses we offer that have “Rhetoric” in the title…

  10. Central Scrutinizer says:

    Ever notice how the comments with the most anger and schoolyard name-calling nearly always come from the “right wing” writers? Just sayin’.
    “If an opinion contrary to your own makes you angry, that is a sign that you are subconsciously aware of having no good reason for thinking as you do…”
    Bertrand Russell -from his essay: ‘An Outline of Intellectual Rubbish’



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