Netsync ain’t some add-on
you can just tack on
Google got it wrong

Larry he a cool dude
but as far as what netsync do
he don’t have a clue

The only difference is that:
1. wireless access..
2. you will be charged for it.
3. you only need a Cheap A$$ little subcompact NOTHING computer to do it.

In the original format, you need little or nothing to do ‘cloud computing’ as the OTHER computer does the work, and only displays the OUTPUT on your computer. you dont need power on a hand held for this..BUT yuo will probably buy a $400 Net computer, JUST for the IDEA of it.
What they are GIVING you is ONLY remote storage. Having MILLIONS of persons running Software on THEIR systems and outputting the DATA to yours, would require TONS of power and Wireless OUTPUT. Running video games REMOTELY with video and audio OUTPUT displayed ONLY would require even MORE power.
The CLOUD isnt going to do the computing.. its ONLY STORAGE..

btw, I seem to remember Oracle coming out with a network computer (thin-client) 5-10 years ago. I don’t think it worked out, but …

#5 Floyd said, on September 30th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
“ECA is exactly RIGHT (had to DO that). Seriously though, if a business has data that is critical to the business, the owner would be out of his/her/their minds to put it in a cloud external to the business’s IT system.”

Actually, you would be better off using the cloud to back-up your computers. If your computers get stolen, then you can get new machines and transfer you data to the new machines from the online back-up.I had some customers who got robbed and the thieves even stole their fire safe which contained their back-ups. They were out of luck as they didn’t trust anyone to take home a off-site backup. I remember Leo Laporte mentioning his online backup, but I cannot think of the name of it.

Slightly off topic and might be invoking Godwin’s law, but does anyone think Larry Ellison looks like Hitler with that mustache?

Cloud computing does have benefits but it also has risks. IMHO at present, the risks often outweigh the benefits. Especially in Australia where proper broadband access (say 5-10mbit or more) is either unavailable, too expensive and not reliable enough.

There are nitwits responding to this blog posting that do not believe in ‘cloud computing’… I guess that those people would rather have ‘Google maps’ run from a regularly updated DVD received in the mail. There are people that have never cooperated on a document via ‘Google Docs’ yet they say cloud computing has no benefits. These people might as well be doing their online shopping via a paper catalog and snail mail, since ecommerce is all ‘in the cloud’.

Do you think that it will be free?
Nope. nada..
It will cost you as much if not more then your iphone on the net.
You will be given a Wimp of a computer, and all your programs/data/gates will not reside on your machine.
Services will be sold, as they are now, so that If you wish to play games, More money(think Xbox live).
How long has it taken to Display a spread sheet 258xZZ on a computer full of data. Now you want to go back to something like a 486/Pentium and start over?
The only chance to have better would be a laptop, but even at that level the programs will be made in the Middle ground to work Well, with all the machines. Then they will raise prices on Better machines.
They want you to think that a Small little under powered machine is the best idea. Hand held mini laptop.
I dont want to Squint to see my info or data/game or what ever.

Which, for all those who seem to have no idea at all, is to push the database as the back end for everything.

He isn’t against cloud computing, he is saying that “cloud” computing is applications and database rental and timeshare. Which is what we’ve had all along and thus “cloud computing” is just like taking last years’ fashion disasters and printing them with different fabrics and calling them “next season.”

What people don’t understand about the rental model for applications is that you, as the renter, have no underlying ownership of the application. You own the data (depending on where it is, of course.) As a consequence, unless those cloud applications are explicitly owned by you you have no ALTERNATIVES if the vendor goes belly up. Or if the vendor’s ISP shuts down for two weeks. Or if their servers all melt down.

Cloud computing can NEVER work for realtime mission critical applications until there is complete, 100% guaranteed uptime (that means, you pay ME if I can’t use YOUR apps) and 100% guaranteed access to my data 100% of the time.

NO COMPANY WILL EVER DO THIS, they would open themselves up to lawsuits that would dwarf AIG.

No company that has a responsible senior management team would EVER use “the cloud” for its financial and company private data, EVER. It’s insanity to do so.

But you naysayers go right ahead, tell your clients to “trust the cloud”. See how long you stay in business after the first major data and systems downtime.

Idiots.

This is big software’s bread and butter. IBM, Oracle, SAP, and Microsoft make their core income there. What is the difference between Amazon or Google hosting an application (mail, calendaring, custom apps, etc) on the “Cloud” and IBM or EDS hosting them in their large data centers? Zero.

For enterprise customers Google goes through the exact same stringent SAS 70 type audits that everyone else jumps through. Google’s uptime is as the same as everyone else, or better (you’re looking at the 4th decimal place). So what’s the difference? Price.

You’ll pay significantly less from “Cloud” providers and get better service. You want to host somewhere, and most large and many small companies do, check out the price difference between the big boys and Google, Amazon, Rackspace, Squarespace, and others. Oh, and you get to talk to real people, not an account manager hiding behind an SLA. So when Larry Ellison is complaining about Cloud computing, he’s complaining about not getting a 28% yearly maintenance fee on a locked in system sitting in an IBM or EDS data center in Poughkeepsie.

It’s time that people woke up. You’re already on the cloud. The question is: how much do you want to pay?