STONY BROOK, N.Y. (CBS) ―They’re upset over an ultimatum from the health department. Workers are being told to either get the swine flu vaccine or lose their jobs.
New York is the first state in the country to mandate flu vaccinations for its health care workers. The first doses of swine flu vaccine will be available beginning next week. Much of it is reserved for state health care workers, but there is growing opposition to required innoculations.
Health care workers in Hauppauge screamed “No forced shots!” as they rallied Tuesday against the state regulation requiring them to roll up their sleeves. “I don’t even tend to the sick. I am in the nutrition field. They are telling me I must get the shot because I work in a health clinic setting,” said Paula Small, a Women, Infants and Children health care worker. Small said she will refuse, worried the vaccine is untested and unproven, leaving her vulnerable. In 1976, there were some deaths associated with a swine flu vaccination.
Registered nurse Frank Mannino, 50, was also angry. He said the state regulation violates his personal freedom and civil rights. “And now I will lose my job if I don’t take the regular flu shot or the swine flu shot.” When asked if he’s willing to lose his job, Mannino said, “Absolutely. I will not take it, will not be forced. This is still America.”
The protest also shook Albany Tuesday. Hundreds of demonstrators demanded freedom of choice. After all, as health care professionals they argue they’re already constantly washing their hands and aren’t likely to transmit or contract the flu.
This doesn’t exactly instill confidence in the general public does it?
#40. Ah, as I thought…your explanation was but another way to expose your ass.
But for your benefit, and just in case you missed the question. How is it remotely possible that they “accidentally” shipped live virus to these other countries.
Only a straight answer will suffice…all your tap dancing will just be recorded as a Fail.
I look forward to next spring when this blows over as did Sars and Bird Flu, yada yada. And the next ‘nothing to see here’ crisis arises so bobbo can pontificate, and I can laugh in his face.
#41–Jim==pull your head out of your ass and recognize your question was answered directly. I went to the premise of your question. “Don’t Trust.” I guess you still won’t understand how to incorporate that response. Surprise me.
#42–Larry==me too. Who doesn’t enjoy missing an epidemic AND having a good laugh?
Science = Pontif???????
Where is your head Larry?
bobbo = fail.
But it’s OK. Now explain to me how Bayer Pharm could ship AIDS tainted blood product to European, Asian and Latin America hemophiliacs, killing thousands or more.
Forget about it, don’t answer. You wouldn’t be able to answer any way. But here it is $$$$$$$$$.
It’s got nothing to do with science. Now roll up your sleeve. Please….oh please.
#45–Jim==”Now explain to me how Bayer Pharm could ship AIDS tainted blood product to European, Asian and Latin America hemophiliacs, killing thousands or more.” /// I assume they used boats? But more likely airplanes. I agree with you that using “ship” certainly reveals their intent to hide what they were doing.
Thanks for the video. I’ve read about similar other examples. It is shocking how USA based corps use the rest of the world and rural America as their dumping ground.
But it is YOU that have failed: #39–Jim==only an idiot “trusts” anything without verification and some reserve doubt. Only an idiot thinks some exception invalidates a general rule.
What does your exception mean to you Jim?
ANSWER: Your example says that Big Pharm will kill people with vaccines in order to make money.
Now you tell me==what does that have to do with the advisability of taking swine flu vaccine or not?
A few things:
First, just because someone works in the healthcare field does not mean the person loses his/her right to decide what medical treatments to undergo. As for the people talking about being infected by a healthcare worker – they are right. They might be. They may also be infected by the lady at the grocery store check-out, the people sitting next to them in the doctor’s waiting room, the clerk at the post office or their own children. If a person is immune-suppressed, the hospital is the worst place in the world to be because you will be surrounded by sick people – the healthcare workers are the least of their worries.
Second, the swine-flu vaccine has not been thoroughly tested. How could it have been? It hasn’t been out long enough. The last time a swine-flu vaccine was rushed through with millions of people getting vaccinated, it led to hundreds if not thousands of deaths, and left many others with life-long disabilities. It also led to millions of dollars in lawsuits against the producers of the vaccine. Of course our government has taken care that this will not happen this time – they have made the producers of the vaccine immune from lawsuits. I wonder why they felt that was necessary if the vaccine is so safe?
Third, those of us that don’t want this vaccine aren’t necessarily wackos – though I will admit there are a few of those on the anti-swine flu vaccine side. I don’t believe that flu vaccines are very effective. I don’t believe the swine flu vaccine has been proven safe, though I admit it hasn’t been proven unsafe either. I believe that everyone has the right to decide for themselves what type of medical treatments/drugs they want – that includes vaccines. I don’t believe that healthcare workers somehow lose that right simply because of where they work.
If this was a high risk disease I would have voted yes.
As it is the risks from the disease for those that contract it seems rather low and the safety of the vaccine has not been demonstrated.
“Absolutely. I will not take it, will not be forced. This is still America.” – Yeah, this is still America, but just barely.
#47–Dobie:
A few things:
You do realize you have done nothing but repeat a position taken in this thread and thoroughly answered by the original link and/or this thread?
It is rather blaze ((with an acute accent over the “e”)) of yourself to post that way==completely irrelevant. Why don’t you try again and actually confront your opponents? You might even learn something “from yourself” if you just try a little bit——-to think.
McCullough said:
“This doesn’t exactly instill confidence in the general public does it?”
Nor does it help my confidence in health care workers. If these were the people I had to rely on for my health care, I think I’d move.
Read this article.