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	<title>Comments on: Greenpeace Releases Its Latest &#8216;Guide to Greener Electronics&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Rick Cain</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/greenpeace-releases-its-latest-guide-to-greener-electronics/comment-page-1/#comment-1585588</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going green saves you green, nothing wrong with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going green saves you green, nothing wrong with that.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/greenpeace-releases-its-latest-guide-to-greener-electronics/comment-page-1/#comment-1585285</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#31 Obviously, neither is Nintendo. Sucker! As I said, don&#039;t leave that bus job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#31 Obviously, neither is Nintendo. Sucker! As I said, don&#8217;t leave that bus job.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph, the Bus Driver</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/greenpeace-releases-its-latest-guide-to-greener-electronics/comment-page-1/#comment-1585253</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph, the Bus Driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#28, pedro,

You truly are a failure. In today&#039;s business world is the written mantra that every successful company write down their priorities and business plan. That some companies refuse to do so in regards to being &quot;green&quot; demonstrates that they have no plan to stop being wasteful. Especially with nonrenewable resources.

Oh, I forgot. You are some successful businessman who knows all this stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#28, pedro,</p>
<p>You truly are a failure. In today&#8217;s business world is the written mantra that every successful company write down their priorities and business plan. That some companies refuse to do so in regards to being &#8220;green&#8221; demonstrates that they have no plan to stop being wasteful. Especially with nonrenewable resources.</p>
<p>Oh, I forgot. You are some successful businessman who knows all this stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: verycheeky</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/greenpeace-releases-its-latest-guide-to-greener-electronics/comment-page-1/#comment-1585199</link>
		<dc:creator>verycheeky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 08:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SUCKERS!! .... Michigan: Record low temps breaks 1935 cold... Record low tied at Daytona Beach...  Cold snap fills up homeless shelters in Idaho</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SUCKERS!! &#8230;. Michigan: Record low temps breaks 1935 cold&#8230; Record low tied at Daytona Beach&#8230;  Cold snap fills up homeless shelters in Idaho</p>
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		<title>By: deowll</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/greenpeace-releases-its-latest-guide-to-greener-electronics/comment-page-1/#comment-1584921</link>
		<dc:creator>deowll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, this is mainly a way to extort money.

Yes the issue of pollution is real and needs to be dealt with but all to often the math connected to the green business modals does not compute.

Well the green business makes a lot of money but the benefit to others/the environment is often rather limited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, this is mainly a way to extort money.</p>
<p>Yes the issue of pollution is real and needs to be dealt with but all to often the math connected to the green business modals does not compute.</p>
<p>Well the green business makes a lot of money but the benefit to others/the environment is often rather limited.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/greenpeace-releases-its-latest-guide-to-greener-electronics/comment-page-1/#comment-1584912</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26 What messenger, the one that says someone&#039;s not &quot;green&quot; because they aren&#039;t giving data? Keep that bus driving job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26 What messenger, the one that says someone&#8217;s not &#8220;green&#8221; because they aren&#8217;t giving data? Keep that bus driving job.</p>
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		<title>By: Microsoft has failed</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/greenpeace-releases-its-latest-guide-to-greener-electronics/comment-page-1/#comment-1584905</link>
		<dc:creator>Microsoft has failed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it. I am supporting Nintendo after this.  GreenPeace are a bunch of idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s it. I am supporting Nintendo after this.  GreenPeace are a bunch of idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph, the Bus Driver</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/greenpeace-releases-its-latest-guide-to-greener-electronics/comment-page-1/#comment-1584886</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph, the Bus Driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a huge Greenpeace booster, but I really love the way all the morans like to shoot the messenger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a huge Greenpeace booster, but I really love the way all the morans like to shoot the messenger.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/greenpeace-releases-its-latest-guide-to-greener-electronics/comment-page-1/#comment-1584880</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#23 And I though you weren&#039;t being braindead. Give my regards to Grizzly Adams when you see him. Oh, and stop using the interwebbytubbies, they contribute to global warming.

My apologies to #19, you were right. I should have noted it once Huge Ripoff was onboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#23 And I though you weren&#8217;t being braindead. Give my regards to Grizzly Adams when you see him. Oh, and stop using the interwebbytubbies, they contribute to global warming.</p>
<p>My apologies to #19, you were right. I should have noted it once Huge Ripoff was onboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Peterson</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/greenpeace-releases-its-latest-guide-to-greener-electronics/comment-page-1/#comment-1584859</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greenpeace has zero credibility.  It is a club for spoiled brats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greenpeace has zero credibility.  It is a club for spoiled brats.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/greenpeace-releases-its-latest-guide-to-greener-electronics/comment-page-1/#comment-1584843</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 05:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pedro, I&#039;m not being sarcastic.  If people think it&#039;s a good idea to ban SUVs because some people drive them with just one person in the car and they burn too much fuel, then it is reasonable to ban other wasteful products.  If people want to see brightness, let them go outside and look at the sun.  Limit laptops and desktops to 14 inch screens.  Ban wireless routers and cell phones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pedro, I&#8217;m not being sarcastic.  If people think it&#8217;s a good idea to ban SUVs because some people drive them with just one person in the car and they burn too much fuel, then it is reasonable to ban other wasteful products.  If people want to see brightness, let them go outside and look at the sun.  Limit laptops and desktops to 14 inch screens.  Ban wireless routers and cell phones.</p>
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		<title>By: soundwash</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/greenpeace-releases-its-latest-guide-to-greener-electronics/comment-page-1/#comment-1584803</link>
		<dc:creator>soundwash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um..Gasparrini...i hope you do realize that the entire &quot;Green&quot; movement is a farcical PTB inside joke.. the &quot;Green&quot; refers to $$$MONEY$$$ not anything related to energy.

It is a nice little [pointless] flash-app though.

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When we see the personal, over-unity power units whose design has been around for the better part of century, THEN you&#039;ll have something truly green.

That would be right around when Western Science uses Einstein as their excuse for holding back their progress in energy and space for 80+years, denying that the Aether exists and not &quot;discovering&quot; that gravity proper is nothing more than a helical, polarized electromagnetic wave produced by the spin of electrons in the atom.

[The Russians will probably out that shortly]

Like i been saying, in the very near future, resonant electromagnetics [and perhaps tuned toroidal coils] will be the *only* thing that matters.

It is the one and only unifying force that ties the entire universe together and powers all Life within it.
-and soon, it will power everything on this planet. [as soon as someone kills off all the oil families, that is] muhahaa

-s[enior] froot loopy

(save those old hard drives. there are rare earth neodymium magnets in them that will become mighty handy in the near future--count on it)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um..Gasparrini&#8230;i hope you do realize that the entire &#8220;Green&#8221; movement is a farcical PTB inside joke.. the &#8220;Green&#8221; refers to $$$MONEY$$$ not anything related to energy.</p>
<p>It is a nice little [pointless] flash-app though.</p>
<p>&#8212;-</p>
<p>When we see the personal, over-unity power units whose design has been around for the better part of century, THEN you&#8217;ll have something truly green.</p>
<p>That would be right around when Western Science uses Einstein as their excuse for holding back their progress in energy and space for 80+years, denying that the Aether exists and not &#8220;discovering&#8221; that gravity proper is nothing more than a helical, polarized electromagnetic wave produced by the spin of electrons in the atom.</p>
<p>[The Russians will probably out that shortly]</p>
<p>Like i been saying, in the very near future, resonant electromagnetics [and perhaps tuned toroidal coils] will be the *only* thing that matters.</p>
<p>It is the one and only unifying force that ties the entire universe together and powers all Life within it.<br />
-and soon, it will power everything on this planet. [as soon as someone kills off all the oil families, that is] muhahaa</p>
<p>-s[enior] froot loopy</p>
<p>(save those old hard drives. there are rare earth neodymium magnets in them that will become mighty handy in the near future&#8211;count on it)</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Ripper</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/greenpeace-releases-its-latest-guide-to-greener-electronics/comment-page-1/#comment-1584772</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Ripper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19 Faxon

Jerk than knee much? No-one&#039;s telling you what to buy. It&#039;s advice, nothing more. If buying &#039;eco-friendly&#039; floats your boat, pay attention. If not, don&#039;t. What fascistic about that?

A lot of people (mostly non-American people from what I can tell) actually give a crap about pollution (pun not intended) and the environment and try to live accordingly. Personally I don&#039;t really go for the Greenpeace dogma, but I do consider the environment when I buy and dispose of stuff.

Reducing pollution and increasing energy efficiency are desirable outcomes.Why the redneck &#039;dont tell me to stop polluting&#039; attitude?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19 Faxon</p>
<p>Jerk than knee much? No-one&#8217;s telling you what to buy. It&#8217;s advice, nothing more. If buying &#8216;eco-friendly&#8217; floats your boat, pay attention. If not, don&#8217;t. What fascistic about that?</p>
<p>A lot of people (mostly non-American people from what I can tell) actually give a crap about pollution (pun not intended) and the environment and try to live accordingly. Personally I don&#8217;t really go for the Greenpeace dogma, but I do consider the environment when I buy and dispose of stuff.</p>
<p>Reducing pollution and increasing energy efficiency are desirable outcomes.Why the redneck &#8216;dont tell me to stop polluting&#8217; attitude?</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19 FWI, #16 was being sarcastic.</description>
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		<title>By: Faxon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faxon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16 How about jerks like you not deciding what the fuck I buy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16 How about jerks like you not deciding what the fuck I buy?</p>
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