Comments on: Hacking A Pacemaker Remotely To Kill It’s Wearer http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/hacking-a-pacemaker-remotely-to-possibly-kill-its-wearer/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:40:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Uncle Patso http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/hacking-a-pacemaker-remotely-to-possibly-kill-its-wearer/comment-page-1/#comment-1585541 Uncle Patso Sun, 04 Oct 2009 07:19:38 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59304#comment-1585541 # 15 ±: "The Checkered Demon was the best." Ah yup. "Where's my free tumbler?" Now _that_ could get a person's heart going! # 15 ±:
“The Checkered Demon was the best.”

Ah yup. “Where’s my free tumbler?”

Now _that_ could get a person’s heart going!

]]> By: amodedoma http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/hacking-a-pacemaker-remotely-to-possibly-kill-its-wearer/comment-page-1/#comment-1584958 amodedoma Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:18:39 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59304#comment-1584958 #16 Definitely a Crumb classic! Sa shame they don't have something similar to the underground comics of the 60's and 70's now. I guess there's no chance of that, hallucenogenic drugs aren't as popular as they used to be. #16 Definitely a Crumb classic! Sa shame they don’t have something similar to the underground comics of the 60′s and 70′s now. I guess there’s no chance of that, hallucenogenic drugs aren’t as popular as they used to be.

]]> By: ± http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/hacking-a-pacemaker-remotely-to-possibly-kill-its-wearer/comment-page-1/#comment-1584864 ± Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:34:33 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59304#comment-1584864 ahhhh ZAP Comix .... brings back memories --- original printings bringing ~$15,000 --- The Checkered Demon was the best. ahhhh ZAP Comix …. brings back memories — original printings bringing ~$15,000 — The Checkered Demon was the best.

]]> By: Bob http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/hacking-a-pacemaker-remotely-to-possibly-kill-its-wearer/comment-page-1/#comment-1584792 Bob Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:54:48 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59304#comment-1584792 Hmm. Interesting, but a link to plans for a themonuclear bomb might garner more hits. Geez! Hmm. Interesting, but a link to plans for a themonuclear bomb might garner more hits. Geez!

]]> By: Glenn E. http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/hacking-a-pacemaker-remotely-to-possibly-kill-its-wearer/comment-page-1/#comment-1584788 Glenn E. Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:29:15 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59304#comment-1584788 As expensive as the damn things are. You'd think these remote programmable pacemakers would have a complicated password protection system. Something like what flashable EProms had, before allowing a new code inside. And a unique password per unit. Not just a generic for all of them. Didn't the FDA have to sign off on these things? Are they just rubber stamping stuff, without any head scratchin over its security? Killing off pacemakers owners would be a waste. A better idea would to do what pro hackers do. Turn PCs into zombies? Turn pacemaker owners into zombies. And time now, there will be a Tv episode that has someone robbing a bank because a guy on a cell phone is controlling his heart. Actually, the idea isn't all that different from the movie "Crank". So I doubt they'll do that again as a movie. But Tv isn't too proud to be unoriginal. As expensive as the damn things are. You’d think these remote programmable pacemakers would have a complicated password protection system. Something like what flashable EProms had, before allowing a new code inside. And a unique password per unit. Not just a generic for all of them. Didn’t the FDA have to sign off on these things? Are they just rubber stamping stuff, without any head scratchin over its security?

Killing off pacemakers owners would be a waste. A better idea would to do what pro hackers do. Turn PCs into zombies? Turn pacemaker owners into zombies. And time now, there will be a Tv episode that has someone robbing a bank because a guy on a cell phone is controlling his heart. Actually, the idea isn’t all that different from the movie “Crank”. So I doubt they’ll do that again as a movie. But Tv isn’t too proud to be unoriginal.

]]> By: soundwash http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/hacking-a-pacemaker-remotely-to-possibly-kill-its-wearer/comment-page-1/#comment-1584724 soundwash Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:33:55 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59304#comment-1584724 #1 boobo said: <blockquote>3 current threads on hacking into computer systems? Random or planned?</blockquote> I agree with the sentemant.. I have noticed this trend over the past several weeks. If i didn't know better, i'd say we are being sensitized to expect a cyber/hack attack very soon. esp with all the sudden (and extremely lame) terror plots that have been foiled here in NYC and elsewhere the past 3 weeks.. kinda like false flag 101 if you ask me.. -also my g/f noted that she has seen 3 news stories in the past week on off-channel news networks indicating not the possibility, but an outright "guarantee" of a nuke attack on a major city in the U.S. within the next 5 years. -lovely. Given that Rahmmi stated "never let a good crisis go to waste" (well tbh, i'm sure that's any administrations motto) -and, that this admin needs a serous distraction to save face on the absurd [and unpopular/failing] policies it is pursuing...i think it's a safe bet that something big is in the works between now and say, the end of November at the latest to allow *ahem* someone to save the day and rekindle that hero worship that is um, waining. add to that, have you been watching the debacle unfolding in Hardin Montana? --concerning the huge (and 2yrs empty) brandy new $ 27milprison facility that just got "activated" by a prvt shell corp called American Police Force? http://kulr8.com/news/local/59284497.html http://google.com/search?q=American+Police+Force&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a It's starting to pan out to be a a shell corp of Blackwater, manned by Foreign Mercs... it's emblem is the Serbian Coat of arms.. -and the Corp CEO is a 14x felon with 1mil plus in civil suits against him to his credit.. Just the kind of guy you want running your um, Security. (if your a Dictator, perhaps) just hit the news wires a little while ago.. -Me thinks remote controlled heart attacks are the least of our worries...tbh. -s #1 boobo said:

3 current threads on hacking into computer systems?

Random or planned?

I agree with the sentemant..

I have noticed this trend over the past several weeks.

If i didn’t know better, i’d say we are being sensitized to expect a cyber/hack attack very soon. esp with all the sudden (and extremely lame) terror plots that have been foiled here in NYC and elsewhere the past 3 weeks..

kinda like false flag 101 if you ask me..

-also my g/f noted that she has seen 3 news stories in the past week on off-channel news networks indicating not the possibility, but an outright “guarantee” of a nuke attack on a major city in the U.S. within the next 5 years. -lovely.

Given that Rahmmi stated “never let a good crisis go to waste” (well tbh, i’m sure that’s any administrations motto)

-and, that this admin needs a serous distraction to save face on the absurd [and unpopular/failing] policies it is pursuing…i think it’s a safe bet that something big is in the works between now and say, the end of November at the latest to allow *ahem* someone to save the day and rekindle that hero worship that is um, waining.

add to that, have you been watching the debacle unfolding in Hardin Montana? –concerning the huge (and 2yrs empty) brandy new $ 27milprison facility that just got “activated” by a prvt shell corp called American Police Force?

http://kulr8.com/news/local/59284497.html

http://google.com/search?q=American+Police+Force&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

It’s starting to pan out to be a a shell corp of Blackwater, manned by Foreign Mercs… it’s emblem is the Serbian Coat of arms.. -and the Corp CEO is a 14x felon with 1mil plus in civil suits against him to his credit..

Just the kind of guy you want running your um, Security. (if your a Dictator, perhaps)

just hit the news wires a little while ago..

-Me thinks remote controlled heart attacks are the least of our worries…tbh.

-s

]]> By: soundwash http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/hacking-a-pacemaker-remotely-to-possibly-kill-its-wearer/comment-page-1/#comment-1584707 soundwash Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:57:29 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59304#comment-1584707 Not for nothing, but wasn't this sort of thing declassified in the 70's IIRC, this could be done to someone without a pacemaker as well. We all run on electromagnetic impulses. Once the resonant frequency used to activate the heart muscle is known, it should be extremely simple to build a short range transmitter to disrupt the signal. (or cause the brain to produce neurotransmitters that are how shall we say, "adverse" to the normal operation of the heart) I imagine it would take little effort to retune the magnetron in a microwave oven to do this. *shrug* -s uses to be Not for nothing, but wasn’t this sort of thing declassified in the 70′s

IIRC, this could be done to someone without a pacemaker as well.

We all run on electromagnetic impulses.

Once the resonant frequency used to activate the heart muscle is known, it should be extremely simple to build a short range transmitter to disrupt the signal.

(or cause the brain to produce neurotransmitters that are how shall we say, “adverse” to the normal operation of the heart)

I imagine it would take little effort to retune the magnetron in a microwave oven to do this.

*shrug*

-s

uses to be

]]> By: Olo Baggins of Bywater http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/hacking-a-pacemaker-remotely-to-possibly-kill-its-wearer/comment-page-1/#comment-1584688 Olo Baggins of Bywater Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:02:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59304#comment-1584688 Just for perspective, the RFID tags used here would be the HF variety because they're under the skin...they work out to a couple inches, max. And no, you can't just build a bigger antenna to get more range, they're more like transformers than RF links. So if you want to hack one, you have to get real close. Just for perspective, the RFID tags used here would be the HF variety because they’re under the skin…they work out to a couple inches, max. And no, you can’t just build a bigger antenna to get more range, they’re more like transformers than RF links.

So if you want to hack one, you have to get real close.

]]> By: sargasso http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/hacking-a-pacemaker-remotely-to-possibly-kill-its-wearer/comment-page-1/#comment-1584686 sargasso Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:00:04 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59304#comment-1584686 Soon appearing, in the App Store. Soon appearing, in the App Store.

]]> By: Benjamin http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/hacking-a-pacemaker-remotely-to-possibly-kill-its-wearer/comment-page-1/#comment-1584685 Benjamin Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:57:59 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59304#comment-1584685 What is worse, you could set it up to shock at a certain time and go establish your alibi, that is if you are smart enough to get rid of the hacking device. What is worse, you could set it up to shock at a certain time and go establish your alibi, that is if you are smart enough to get rid of the hacking device.

]]> By: David http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/hacking-a-pacemaker-remotely-to-possibly-kill-its-wearer/comment-page-1/#comment-1584683 David Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:49:23 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59304#comment-1584683 Exactly what I'm thinking, Chuck. Exactly what I’m thinking, Chuck.

]]> By: chuck http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/hacking-a-pacemaker-remotely-to-possibly-kill-its-wearer/comment-page-1/#comment-1584676 chuck Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:22:58 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59304#comment-1584676 Can't you screw up a pacemaker just by standing near a microwave? So what happens when they get a BSOD during a software update? Can’t you screw up a pacemaker just by standing near a microwave?

So what happens when they get a BSOD during a software update?

]]> By: jbellies http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/hacking-a-pacemaker-remotely-to-possibly-kill-its-wearer/comment-page-1/#comment-1584671 jbellies Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:00:25 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59304#comment-1584671 The nexgen ethernet connector should be in the shape of a heart. The rectangular RJ-45 is so First Decade. The nexgen ethernet connector should be in the shape of a heart. The rectangular RJ-45 is so First Decade.

]]> By: Max Bell http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/hacking-a-pacemaker-remotely-to-possibly-kill-its-wearer/comment-page-1/#comment-1584670 Max Bell Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:45:28 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59304#comment-1584670 @2: No, but Cheney does. Goodbye, Dick. @2: No, but Cheney does.

Goodbye, Dick.

]]> By: nolimit662 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/01/hacking-a-pacemaker-remotely-to-possibly-kill-its-wearer/comment-page-1/#comment-1584664 nolimit662 Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:31:31 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59304#comment-1584664 Oh Great!! Now you've given people ideas for what to do for fun if they're bored some day. Oh Great!! Now you’ve given people ideas for what to do for fun if they’re bored some day.

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