» Revolution next for U.S. Dvorak Uncensored: General interest observations and true web-log.

# 1 soundwash said, on October 1st, 2009 at 1:00 pm

Outstanding.

IMO, you should sticky that Until January.

-s

# 2 the Freaky Tiki said, on October 1st, 2009 at 1:01 pm

We Americans are too lazy to revolutionize anything any more.

the Tiki

# 3 the Freaky Tiki said, on October 1st, 2009 at 1:02 pm

Hey look, Dancing with the Stars is on…

the Tiki

# 4 bobbo, words have meaning said, on October 1st, 2009 at 1:03 pm

Define: Revolution.

# 5 Jim said, on October 1st, 2009 at 1:08 pm

Wow, what a condescending asshole. What fun!

He may be right on a few things but he doesn’t give up anything substantive and helpful and he love to spout “conspiracy theory” BS.

I also love how her questions are pretty much leading throughout the interview, she isn’t actually interviewing but giving him his talking points.

A complete waste of my time, thanks John.

[ed: we aim to please!]

# 6 Improbus said, on October 1st, 2009 at 1:10 pm

A revolution? I doubt it. Some right wingnuts might blowup some buildings and/or people but I don’t think they have enough people for a revolution. A guerrilla campaign? That might happen. Strap in, the future is going to be a bumpy ride.

# 7 LibertyLover said, on October 1st, 2009 at 1:22 pm

Progressive Libertarian.

http://tinyurl.com/ycybnjt

**************

There is a also a PL Party. Stay away from those wackos (forced “temporary” sterilization of kids to prevent teen pregnancy — WTF!).

# 8 Jägermeister said, on October 1st, 2009 at 1:25 pm

I’m sure his predictions are as accurate as John C Dvorak’s…

# 9 Benjamin said, on October 1st, 2009 at 1:30 pm

If there is a revolution, it will probably wait until the President seeks a third term. Until then, relax because he is lawfully elected.

# 10 jpd said, on October 1st, 2009 at 1:37 pm

That guy kinda’ looks like Barney Fife.

# 11 Improbus said, on October 1st, 2009 at 2:02 pm

@jpd

I think he looks like the assassin from The Princess Bride, Wallace Shawn.

# 12 GF said, on October 1st, 2009 at 2:05 pm

Screw gold, I’m stalking up on seed, weapons, solar panels and building a sanctuary. Ok, not really.

# 13 Awake said, on October 1st, 2009 at 2:14 pm

There will be a revolution, but it will be by the 80% of the true Americans that don’t want the American Talibans (aka Teabaggers) to screw up what America really stands for. If there is anyone that wants to impose themselves upon American Freedoms, it’s morons that listen to self-admitted power hungry schizophrenics like Glenn Beck that need to be stopped.

# 14 BigBoyBC said, on October 1st, 2009 at 2:16 pm

Yes, John…

You and Adam are first on the list to go…

# 15 soundwash said, on October 1st, 2009 at 2:17 pm

oh yeah, RussiaToday.com, is a great news site for getting news that our MSM is payed to bury or ignore.

My only qualm is the new, mostly video format of the site. It was much better imo, when it was mostly a textual news site.

I find it extremely ironic that we have to go to Russian news sites to find real news and straight forward commentary. Their editorials and commentary would look perfectly at home on any genuinely America website.

Even Pravda has excellent editorials and news. Granted, the site is somewhat tabloidish looking, however, the world news and editorials are first rate. -especially if you get a kick out of the (well earned), smug, Russian flavour of the writers.

Lastly, Asia Times’s World Economy section is another great news site if want you want the no-nonsense brutal truth about the utter corruption (and who the players are) that are in the process of taking down the U.S. (and it’s economy.)

The last bit of irony is that in Russia’s case, you could say they (and we) have exceeded beyond all mutually wild expectations.

They are becoming the freely outspoken economic powerhouse that we once were.

We, rife with unprecedented political corruption and growing, unchecked government expansionist power, are on the verge of effectively outlawing our once heralded Free [political] Speech, [in the name of inciting "soft domestic terrorism", of course) and are becoming the bankrupt, corrupt to the core [Fascist] state Russia once was.

I mean, just this week on Larry King Live, he asked Khadafi, “Do you think obama should be president forever?”

WTF is that?? -Why on earth would any American news entity EVER ask this question?? -let alone to the likes of Khadafi.

(in case your wondering, of course, Khadafi said yes..in essence because [paraphrasing] “We share the same views..obama’s vision will save the U.S.)

(kinda makes you wonder about the motives behind that bill introduced by a Bronx assemblyman at the beginning of this congressional session to allow the president to serve indefinitely—which btw, has been introduced in prior sessions as well)

The sycophant think tanks that created all of this madness must be be so happy for both Russia, -and America.

–What an odd and ironic spectacle this all must be in the eyes of the world.

so sad.

-s

Turn off your TV

# 16 ECA said, on October 1st, 2009 at 2:24 pm

yes, we went from Main street to wall street..
In what other nation do they sell Synthetic clothing the most??
Because its CHEAP. why is it CHEAP, because we dont use Wool and cottons as much as other nations. We dont even use OTHER fibers..
What other country LETS you buy CHEAP goods for OUTRAGEOUS prices. THEY MADE THEM, Our corps brought them to the USA, and sells them MARKED UP 4-100 times the cost.
OTher nations complain about corruption, we TAX it and make it legal.

If we started a 3rd party, and EDUCATED THE PERSON we wanted elected..
AND had 2-4 SUB parties to bring others TO the main party.. COULD we??

BIG companies FAIL, because they FORGET where they get money from. IF’ they forget that the BOTTOM has to have money to spend to BUY their products or USE their services, they DESERVE to fail.
Its like the Cast system in India..which we abhor. that the LOWEST cast is treated so badly. But you must understand that the HIGHER casts must be NICE to the lower cast, or they will QUIT what they do. Which is to clean the ABOVE ground sewer system.
Its an FULL circle, and if you make the circle smaller, and cut off the tail…the TAIL will bite you in the BUTT.

ANd why do we find better/nicer NAMES for what these folks do?? AND IDIOT is an IDIOT, a CROOK is still a Thief..

# 17 pedro said, on October 1st, 2009 at 2:26 pm

#4 A bunch of morons that want to grab power and never let go. You didn’t think for a minute that was something remotely resembling th US revolution, did you?

# 18 Miguel said, on October 1st, 2009 at 2:45 pm

The man said it can also turn out to be a Renaissance…

# 19 Carcarius said, on October 1st, 2009 at 2:45 pm

#5, you can’t thank JCD for wasting your time… look in the mirror. We all have choice.

# 20 Carcarius said, on October 1st, 2009 at 2:52 pm

I like his mafia rant. Spot on.

# 21 Thinker said, on October 1st, 2009 at 2:52 pm

Was a bit fun to listen to. Who is this guy+?

# 22 canucklehead said, on October 1st, 2009 at 3:24 pm

she looked a little severe, but ** NICE LEGS **

# 23 McCullough said, on October 1st, 2009 at 3:25 pm

#21. This guy…

# 24 J said, on October 1st, 2009 at 3:41 pm

This clown is wrong more than he is right. He uses the same tactics that false prophets have used for centuries. Throw out a bucket of shit and then ignore what you got wrong and focus on what was even remotely close. Any 2 bit psychic is correct as much as this asshat.

Don’t believe me? Look it up.

# 25 GF said, on October 1st, 2009 at 3:51 pm

stalking or stocking, opps

# 26 Jägermeister said, on October 1st, 2009 at 3:54 pm

He’s like Nostradamus… reads history and current affairs… and then mumbles a bunch of vague “predictions” and then hope that some idiots down the line will say “Hey, Gerald Celente was right”… suppressing the fact that great majority of his predictions were pure bullshit.

# 27 J said, on October 1st, 2009 at 3:57 pm

Thanks Jägermeister. I forgot the vague part.

# 28 Jim said, on October 1st, 2009 at 4:26 pm

#26. and 27. Any evidence or links to back up your bullshit? You Obama apologists are worse than the Bush bunch. But as far as bullshit goes…there are predictions and then there are promises which just turn out to be god damned LIES. you do know the vast majority of Obama’s campaign BS has turned out to be just that.

Or are you just fucking stupid.

# 29 Jägermeister said, on October 1st, 2009 at 4:48 pm

#28 – Jim

Read this. I doubt you’ll understand it.

# 30 Thinker said, on October 1st, 2009 at 4:56 pm

#23 Thanks! That was fun…now how do I get on this gravy train?? eh? I hear the freak show pays good.

# 31 Thinker said, on October 1st, 2009 at 5:19 pm

#11 Inconcievable!

# 32 tiredofbeatingaroundthebush said, on October 1st, 2009 at 5:25 pm

Those of you who think we need a revolution, put down Ayn Rand and your pistol and your 34th cup of coffee and take a deep breath. It’s not going to happen. The fabled world of ultra-individualism is dead, if it ever existed. Revolution of the kind you want is not coming.

Your dreams of being the rugged pioneer are not going to happen. The world has changed, moved on, become more civilized. Your “right” to carry deadly weapons around is not as important as other people’s right not to be killed. Your “right” to remove civil rights protections from others so you can oppress others is not going to be allowed. You no longer belong in the modern world. You will not be allowed to rant unopposed about how everyone who doesn’t agree with you is a commie and traitor, no matter how many FOX-inflated Tea Party/KKK rallies you have.

Maybe you can immerse youself on old Westerns and John Wayne war movies, maybe get together in basements and drink beer and talk about the good old days. Just stop trying to put your barbaric dreams into practice, because we are not going to let you. Stay in the shadows where you belong, we no longer need or want you.

Nearly everybody else wants what Obama and the Dems are offering; a government more concerned with keeping you healthy and safe than making money for the rich while sending kids off to die in pointless wars. We want safe streets and safe medicines more welfare and fewer flags waving. We want fewer churches and more community centers. We want this and we are going to get it, and you are going to help pay for it whether you see that it’s good for you or not.

You lost and you will never be allowed to win again. Get used to it.

# 33 Father said, on October 1st, 2009 at 5:45 pm

#32 tiredofbeatingaroundthebush,

who is going to pay for your world of plenty? Your parents? The rich (obviously you have little need of money yourself, and curiously, aren’t concerned with taxes). You language reminds me of a trust-fund brat.

Jäger,

you obliviously think that social security, Medicare, et cetra, will magically stay solvent as the government spend our future wages like a prostitute that just found a lost credit card.

I think we have all become fat, lazy, and stupid, and we deserve to reap what we’ve planted.

# 34 Jägermeister said, on October 1st, 2009 at 6:00 pm

#33 – Father

The cost for the US military will end up at between $859B and $1.16T in 2009, and you’re whining about health care costing money. Which is most important to you… kill people or heal people?

# 35 tiredofbeatingaroundthebush said, on October 1st, 2009 at 6:16 pm

I’m a working man, not a trust fund baby. I don’t mind paying taxes; it’s called being part of a community and paying my fair share.

If we weren’t sending our kids around the world to kill people and secure supplies of a poisonous fuel that we could replace in a generation if we tried….then we’d have plenty of money to spend putting milk into babies and medicines into sick people. But the Repukes would rather toss missiles into crowds of brown civilians.

I’m tired of pretending they matter. I’m saying we should shun them, marginalize them and generally not let them have a say in what society does. They are part of a violent savage past that we voted to put behind us.

# 36 LibertyLover said, on October 1st, 2009 at 6:29 pm

#32, First you said this.

Your “right” to remove civil rights protections from others so you can oppress others is not going to be allowed.

I had a really nice rebuttal, but you said it much more elegantly than I could have:

you are going to help pay for it whether you see that it’s good for you or not.

Thanks for printing what nearly half the country already knows. The majority always oppresses the minority.

# 37 LibertyLover said, on October 1st, 2009 at 6:31 pm

#34, And all social services account for TWICE that.

Between the two of them they took up 70% of the budget last year (the one that was OVER budget).

# 38 LibertyLover said, on October 1st, 2009 at 6:32 pm

#13, Last year it was closer to 98%.

I wonder where it will be a year from now?

# 39 tiredofbeatingaroundthebush said, on October 1st, 2009 at 6:35 pm

It’s not oppression to make people pay taxes, it’s their responsibility. You need to pay for fire protection services whether you think you will have a fire or not.

That’s a tiny bit different from removing protections from minorities.

# 40 J said, on October 1st, 2009 at 6:37 pm

#28 Jim Bob

“Any evidence or links to back up your bullshit?” – Jim Bob

I can point out several predictions he makes in that article that are DEAD WRONG! The best thing is that he missed things like blogs, online video, and the explosion of digital music players. Those things have impacted society on a very very large scale yet he missed them. Not very good at predicting trends is he?

“You Obama apologists are worse than the Bush bunch” – Jim Bob

I am not apologizing for anything. Why? because there is no need. He has been in office 8 months. What have you done for your country the last 8 months? I bet it isn’t even 1/1000 of what he has done for this country.

“you do know the vast majority of Obama’s campaign BS has turned out to be just that.” – Jim Bob

Really? Vast majority huh? I bet you can’t even name one.

“Or are you just fucking stupid.” – Jim Bob

Lol. Did you get any one your shirt?

# 41 Jägermeister said, on October 1st, 2009 at 6:45 pm

#37 – LibertyLover

And your point is? Killing is better than healing?

# 42 LibertyLover said, on October 1st, 2009 at 6:48 pm

#39, Fire protection is a community responsibility, not a national one.

What does the Chimperor in Chief have to do with that — other than taking more money from people so they can’t afford their local taxes?

# 43 LibertyLover said, on October 1st, 2009 at 6:50 pm

#41, Healing is better is than killing.

Maybe if we didn’t have over $2T in social programs, people might be able to afford some healing.

# 44 tiredofbeatingaroundthebush said, on October 1st, 2009 at 6:51 pm

It’s an analogy, perhaps you should look that up. Maybe Mommy can explain it to you.

About the Chimperor comment, you’re either racist or you think Bush is still in charge.

# 45 LibertyLover said, on October 1st, 2009 at 6:54 pm

#44, In other words, you don’t have a clue. Gotcha.

About the Chimperor comment, you’re either racist

Why would that be racist? I applied the same slang to Obama that I used for Bush. And that makes me a racist?

or you think Bush is still in charge.

Say hello to the new boss, same as the old boss.

# 46 Father said, on October 1st, 2009 at 7:40 pm

#44 tiredofbeatingaroundthebush,

So you are telling me you don’t use petrol, electricity, public transportation, or any other evil fuel device? And you’re not confined to a psychiatric hospital?

As Dvorak says, I don’t see Obama doing anything but getting on tv to give campaign speeches. Bush used to hide from the public, and do nothing. Obama is out in front doing nothing.

In any case, I can’t see how our standard of living (which is propped up by the poorest domestic and foreign workers) is sustainable.

Tired, I think you have topped the charts in poorly reasoned positions. I would rather read Alphie than you.

Jäger, hope you’re good at huntin, ’cause your thunkin is broke.

# 47 dholle said, on October 1st, 2009 at 8:00 pm

John! How can you post this without any commentary?! From RT? Are you kidding me? I want to hear your response! Com’on!! You’re killing me! Something… anything… you also said the DJ was going to tank before it did.

# 48 Steve said, on October 1st, 2009 at 8:04 pm

#32 ect.
You’re your own worst enemy. Your initial rant exposed you as ignorant. Your follow-ups revealed you as a fool.

# 49 brm said, on October 1st, 2009 at 11:45 pm

#32 tiredofbeatingaroundthebush:

“Nearly everybody else wants what Obama and the Dems are offering…

You lost and you will never be allowed to win again. Get used to it.”

Call me after the primaries.

# 50 pedro said, on October 2nd, 2009 at 4:10 am

#32 Not even the Dems. want what Obama is “offering”. See what’s going on with the healthcare reform? Not passing, that what.

The world has not change a bit. There are still a seizable number of jackasses ruling countries for more than 20 years, where’s the change there? There are new tyrants using laws and constitutions to stay in power forever, just like they have been doing from the 30’s onwards.

The world “changed” in your mind only… and in the propaganda you’ve been swallowing.

# 51 Alfred1 said, on October 2nd, 2009 at 4:17 am

Celente’s right…the economy is still tanking…and the revolution is starting.

We need to impeach Obama, and toss out this congress…

Stop feeding the rich…

Help main street by rolling back regulations and taxes…

And lets drill for oil etc…thereby creating thousands of good paying jobs.

# 52 Mr. Fusion said, on October 2nd, 2009 at 5:15 am

This guy is an idiot if he thinks he has successfully predicted the future. Today there are hundreds of people predicting our economy will go further south and there are hundreds more predicting it will improve. So what makes him special, the slick delivery?

Thousands predicted the dotcom bubble would burst and when investors started listening, guess what happend?

Millions predicted Iraq would be a boondoggle and quagmire, similar to Viet Nam.

Millions (or was it hundreds of millions) predicted high oil costs would destroy the world economy. And tens of people think continuing high energy usage will benefit our economy.

And I predict Alphie and pedro will troll some stupid comment in the near future. Oopps, looks like Alphie already has. See how right I am ?!?!?!

# 53 LibertyLover said, on October 2nd, 2009 at 5:39 am

http://tinyurl.com/ybzvg2h

We lost 263,000 jobs last month, 80,000 more than expected by the “experts.”

It’s not getting better people. As a nation we need to wake up and realize that artificial demand generated by government programs does not make things better. It makes it worse.

# 54 bobbo, we are all people with feet of clay said, on October 2nd, 2009 at 5:56 am

#53–LIEBERTY Loser==let me fix that for you: “when the private market totally fails, insufficient demand generated by government programs does not solve the problem overnight.”

Idiot.

# 55 pedro said, on October 2nd, 2009 at 6:08 am

#52 So, in essence you are saying either that Bush didn’t do it so bad or that you agree with what Dumbya did? It’s not clear for me. But how could a post from conFused not be confusing?

# 56 Ostracism said, on October 2nd, 2009 at 6:56 am

#35, bushbeater said – “I’m tired of pretending they matter. I’m saying we should shun them, marginalize them and generally not let them have a say in what society does. They are part of a violent savage past that we voted to put behind us.”

Yes, I can tell you clearly are the civilized one. Clearly anyone who seeks to exclude, marginalize and ostracize all opposition is the reasonable person.

# 57 ECA said, on October 2nd, 2009 at 7:56 am

go read SHADOWRUN

# 58 Carcarius said, on October 2nd, 2009 at 11:44 am

What’s better than wars to balance the exponential human population growth? At least wars give people a fighting chance (no pun intended).

# 59 meetsy said, on October 2nd, 2009 at 2:22 pm

J, j j j j…..you haven’t opened your eyes yet. Coffee is brewing. This prez is no better than the last one, and he may end up being a lot worse. In 8 months he has…appointed an appalling number of cronies (many of whom are crooked), had 17 or more tossed out by the Senate (a new record, historically), appointed untold numbers of CZARS which don’t need Senate approval. He’s out there talking — almost daily — but the machine that he’s a slave to (big business, big business, big business) is pulling the strings.
I’m sorry, but the big O is no better than the big B, and history (if we survive) may paint him as very much worse.
Open your eyes, start looking up who is the head of HUD, who is in charge of the CIA, who is running the banking oversight committee. Their backgrounds are out there…and, it’s a sorry pack of mutts.

# 60 Jonas said, on October 2nd, 2009 at 2:28 pm

Why did the camera angle change when he said the average pay on wall street?

# 61 deowll said, on October 2nd, 2009 at 2:44 pm

I kinda think we are going to have stagnation in the job market followed by…more stagnation in the job market.

Wall Street and the Tort Lawyers are doing okay but this is not a good place for small business growth and if the Dems have their way it will get worse.

The next question is where does most job growth occur in a healthy economy? Small business.

# 62 Cap'nKangaroo said, on October 2nd, 2009 at 7:52 pm

#51 ” thereby creating thousands of good paying jobs.”

Is Alfred1 morphing into Nancy Pelosi?

# 63 ECA said, on October 3rd, 2009 at 10:20 am

only way to get companies to change…
STOP BUYING STUFF FROM THEM..
I dont care if you go without car insurance.
MAKE them suffer.
FORCE them to drop pricing and MAKE this country LIVABLE and WORTH living in.

# 64 ECA said, on October 3rd, 2009 at 10:27 am

Your money PAYS for everything a company wants.
YOUR money went to that CHARITY, that THEY got credit for.
Your money went to that RACE CAR show..
YOUR money went to that Bicycle race..
your moeny went to that GOLF match..
Every advert you see on TV. computer, billboard was PAID FOR BY YOU..then, the company gets CREDIT from tax for it..
LET them fire ALL of us..
we all end up on welfare, and WATCH the nation TAX them to death, all those rich persons.
WATCh the state TRY to figure out HOW to get Property tax, from HOME OWNERS renting to OTHERS because NO ONE HAS MONEY.
WATCH the nation TRY’ to collect itself and get us BACK TO WORK.. GET us to PAY for services, and BUY something..
RAID the stores..get food and Cook it over open fires and in BAR-B-QUE’s

# 65 Uncle Patso said, on October 4th, 2009 at 12:09 am

33 Father:
“who is going to pay for your world of plenty?”

In an ideal world, everybody. In an anthill, as an example, every ant contributes in some way to the health and well-being of the community; some by foraging for food, some by building and maintaining the tunnels, some by caring for the eggs and pupae, etc. For their efforts, they all get to live in a protected, air conditioned, flood resistant nest, an ant’s heaven-on-earth.

Are we less than ants? In some ways, yes. We live in a protected society with an extensive infrastructure dedicated to keeping us well fed, comfortable and healthy, yet many of us chafe and complain at having to contribute money and/or effort to maintain this community. Some even foster rebellion, not suspecting (or not caring about) the chaos that always ensues.

I say to those: Grow up! You did _not_ get to where you are today all by yourself, without anybody else’s help. You were aided by the effort and treasure of untold millions of others. Have some regard for them, and for future generations, or else move to an uninhabited island and truly do it all by yourself.

# 66 LibertyLover said, on October 4th, 2009 at 10:15 am

#65, In an ideal world, everybody.

So, everybody plunders everybody?

Sounds like full-fledged communism to me.

# 67 Uncle Patso said, on October 5th, 2009 at 2:43 am

That’s right. Under Communism, everybody plunders everybody. Whereas under Capitalism, it’s the exact opposite.

# 68 LibertyLover said, on October 5th, 2009 at 4:53 am

#67, I agree.

To further expound on that for those who don’t know, under Capitalism, everybody engages in the free exchange of goods and labor, unfettered by government coercion.

# 69 BrokenSpectrum said, on December 10th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

I don’t put much stock in these sort of predictions, there’s no way they could strongly be backed by any sort of science.

That being said, I do find it interesting that he mentions Progressive Libertarians. He doesn’t say much about them though, so I have to wonder exactly what he means when he uses that term. Hopefully he’s speaking of them in a limited government manner.

If anyone is interested in learning about the Progressive Libertarianism principles, they can find them at http://ProgressiveLibertarian.org

This is actually a movement that I started, and as mentioned further above, it is not affiliated with a party, especially whackjobs that advocate for mandatory sterilization.