Comments on: Carbon Credits for Birth Control or Abortion? http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/04/carbon-credits-for-birth-control/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:22:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: sreekumar http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/04/carbon-credits-for-birth-control/comment-page-2/#comment-1667076 sreekumar Sat, 12 Jun 2010 04:13:54 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59499#comment-1667076 People enter into sex for recreation and procreation - the former has only moral issues but the latter has population growth and environmental issues. For stopping further degradation of environment population control is a must. Many people procreate accidently when then enter into sex. Some people enter into wedlock and produce kids because there is no other way to access females since social restrictions are unsurmountable. For those men and women who are not serious about having family and children, must be able to enjoy most of the benefits of family life sans the kids.. This will go a long way in reducing population, saving the Earth and at the same time remove money problems of many many people. However, the Governments must do much contemplation and surveys before implementing this to avoid social problems on account of this. People enter into sex for recreation and procreation – the former has only moral issues but the latter has population growth and environmental issues. For stopping further degradation of environment population control is a must. Many people procreate accidently when then enter into sex. Some people enter into wedlock and produce kids because there is no other way to access females since social restrictions are unsurmountable. For those men and women who are not serious about having family and children, must be able to enjoy most of the benefits of family life sans the kids.. This will go a long way in reducing population, saving the Earth and at the same time remove money problems of many many people. However, the Governments must do much contemplation and surveys before implementing this to avoid social problems on account of this.

]]> By: duddits http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/04/carbon-credits-for-birth-control/comment-page-2/#comment-1589381 duddits Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:56:35 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59499#comment-1589381 Oh-yah zero population growth + neutral carbon emission. Gadzooks! Marc Perkel #27 - A one page intro on Roz Savage's site (Twit.tv has a show also) : http://rozsavage.com/environment/plastic-pollution/ Takes one minute to realize the doable fix to the problem is world wide acceptance and cooperation. Throw a shit-pile of money at cleanup and don't add any more plastic than necessary (permeant garbage ship navy required). Well an easy job like cleanup the Pacific has not gotten done. I don't think much about the insanely hard job the colorful celebrity politicians want us to think is easy. There plastic covered. :-) {soapbox} Carbon offsets and all that Cap'NTrade is just a market game NO carbon reduction results. Finance game like that DeRegulate electricity production and buy it in a market priced way -- Duh, power is not a store and use like oil. It is a always be on utility. Number of new clean power generation plants have been built in the past 15 years? I didn't count; just enough to service all days except some severe days and only Fossil & WindFarm. We should have made a bunch of Nuclear ones too. That is carbon reduction. {/soapbox} Homework: Notice a trend in SciFi lately using terms: breeder (underclass -many offspring) and citizen (upperclass- self imposed childless, maybe one to two kids? The vampire thing is zero offspring. Market is highest ever for that vampire stuff. Some very subtile like Sanctuary. Which is doing endangered species work as part of theme. fun is over -f Oh-yah zero population growth + neutral carbon emission. Gadzooks!

Marc Perkel #27 – A one page intro on Roz Savage’s site (Twit.tv has a show also) :
http://rozsavage.com/environment/plastic-pollution/

Takes one minute to realize the doable fix to the problem is world wide acceptance and cooperation. Throw a shit-pile of money at cleanup and don’t add any more plastic than necessary (permeant garbage ship navy required). Well an easy job like cleanup the Pacific has not gotten done. I don’t think much about the insanely hard job the colorful celebrity politicians want us to think is easy. There plastic covered. :-)
{soapbox}
Carbon offsets and all that Cap’NTrade is just a market game NO carbon reduction results. Finance game like that DeRegulate electricity production and buy it in a market priced way — Duh, power is not a store and use like oil. It is a always be on utility.

Number of new clean power generation plants have been built in the past 15 years? I didn’t count; just enough to service all days except some severe days and only Fossil & WindFarm. We should have made a bunch of Nuclear ones too. That is carbon reduction. {/soapbox}

Homework:
Notice a trend in SciFi lately using terms: breeder (underclass -many offspring) and citizen (upperclass- self imposed childless, maybe one to two kids? The vampire thing is zero offspring. Market is highest ever for that vampire stuff. Some very subtile like Sanctuary. Which is doing endangered species work as part of theme.

fun is over -f

]]> By: soundwash http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/04/carbon-credits-for-birth-control/comment-page-2/#comment-1586107 soundwash Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:23:13 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59499#comment-1586107 #31 MikeN -exactly.. To continue to push cap&trade would be akin to renewing the original lie/scam with full knowledge and foresight. -something that could prove deadly in the near future.. -s #31 MikeN

-exactly.. To continue to push cap&trade would be akin to renewing the original lie/scam with full knowledge and foresight.

-something that could prove deadly in the near future..

-s

]]> By: MikeN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/04/carbon-credits-for-birth-control/comment-page-2/#comment-1586033 MikeN Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:56:46 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59499#comment-1586033 The 10c per ton price is because people realized that cap and trade might not pass. That Copenhagen is not likely to result in a new agreement. Possibly also because ClimateAudit uncovered a new flaw in many hockey stick temperature studies, including a recent Arctic warming paper. If there is a carbon reduction cap and trade scheme of some sort, then the price will recover. The 10c per ton price is because people realized that cap and trade might not pass. That Copenhagen is not likely to result in a new agreement. Possibly also because ClimateAudit uncovered a new flaw in many hockey stick temperature studies, including a recent Arctic warming paper. If there is a carbon reduction cap and trade scheme of some sort, then the price will recover.

]]> By: Guyver http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/04/carbon-credits-for-birth-control/comment-page-2/#comment-1586020 Guyver Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:16:40 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59499#comment-1586020 With all the carbon offsets hoopla along with this whole fiasco about man-made global warming, it wouldn't surprise me if the libs in this country want to go to a one-child policy like China. With all the carbon offsets hoopla along with this whole fiasco about man-made global warming, it wouldn’t surprise me if the libs in this country want to go to a one-child policy like China.

]]> By: Misanthropic Scott http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/04/carbon-credits-for-birth-control/comment-page-2/#comment-1586017 Misanthropic Scott Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:09:49 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59499#comment-1586017 #28 - thecommodore, It's not a bad idea. However, I would point out that paying for condoms is still a lot cheaper than paying for either abortions or unwanted children. So, teach them to avoid sex (ineffective), then add teaching them about birth control so they will want it and know how to use it, then give them the tool to avoid the disease and pregnancies that would otherwise result from the abstinence only education. #28 – thecommodore,

It’s not a bad idea. However, I would point out that paying for condoms is still a lot cheaper than paying for either abortions or unwanted children. So, teach them to avoid sex (ineffective), then add teaching them about birth control so they will want it and know how to use it, then give them the tool to avoid the disease and pregnancies that would otherwise result from the abstinence only education.

]]> By: thecommodore http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/04/carbon-credits-for-birth-control/comment-page-2/#comment-1586012 thecommodore Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:55:10 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59499#comment-1586012 Tell you what? How about you earn your carbon credits by spending time in those high schools teaching kids how to reason and think, and give them enough to do to avoid sex until they're old enough to pay for their own birth control? Two birds with one stone. Tell you what? How about you earn your carbon credits by spending time in those high schools teaching kids how to reason and think, and give them enough to do to avoid sex until they’re old enough to pay for their own birth control? Two birds with one stone.

]]> By: Marc Perkel http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/04/carbon-credits-for-birth-control/comment-page-2/#comment-1586010 Marc Perkel Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:52:01 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59499#comment-1586010 I guess no one is going to address the plastic bag issue. Probably should to a separate article about that. I guess no one is going to address the plastic bag issue. Probably should to a separate article about that.

]]> By: Misanthropic Scott http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/04/carbon-credits-for-birth-control/comment-page-2/#comment-1585935 Misanthropic Scott Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:58:31 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59499#comment-1585935 Marc, Good idea on carbon credits for not reproducing. But, no, you don't get the right to plastic bags. Plastic is a problem for other reasons. In addition to the carbon footprint of making a plastic bag, you must remember that its most likely fate is to circle around in the Great Pacific Garbage Vortex breaking into ever smaller bits, but never ever biodegrading as they claim it will, until the sun engulfs the planet in 4.5 billion years. Ditch the plastic bags please. And thank you for not breeding. Marc,

Good idea on carbon credits for not reproducing. But, no, you don’t get the right to plastic bags. Plastic is a problem for other reasons. In addition to the carbon footprint of making a plastic bag, you must remember that its most likely fate is to circle around in the Great Pacific Garbage Vortex breaking into ever smaller bits, but never ever biodegrading as they claim it will, until the sun engulfs the planet in 4.5 billion years.

Ditch the plastic bags please.

And thank you for not breeding.

]]> By: soundwash http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/04/carbon-credits-for-birth-control/comment-page-2/#comment-1585932 soundwash Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:45:52 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59499#comment-1585932 Hey Marc Perkel, I think you need to do a recalc. Like I said above, Carbon Credits crashed to $0.10¢ (ten cents) at the CCX Exchange on Friday!! <em>(CCX=Chicago Carbon Exchange)</em> http://chicagoclimatex.com/index.jsf -at that price, you could take care of your lifetime allotment for a song! Now the Really Good News! The Yamal Hockey Stick Graph that Started this whole dreaded carbon scam has been finally blown up for the fraud that it is! Read all about <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/30/a-must-read-the-yamal-hockey-stick-implosion-in-laymans-terms/" rel="nofollow"><u>here</u></a>. Now *thats* the way to start a Monday Blog if'n you ask me. :D Enjoy! -s Hey Marc Perkel, I think you need to do a recalc.

Like I said above, Carbon Credits crashed to $0.10¢ (ten cents) at the CCX Exchange on Friday!!

(CCX=Chicago Carbon Exchange)

http://chicagoclimatex.com/index.jsf

-at that price, you could take care of your lifetime allotment for a song!

Now the Really Good News!

The Yamal Hockey Stick Graph that Started this whole dreaded carbon scam has been finally blown up for the fraud that it is!

Read all about here.

Now *thats* the way to start a Monday Blog if’n you ask me. :D

Enjoy!

-s

]]> By: Glenn E. http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/04/carbon-credits-for-birth-control/comment-page-2/#comment-1585911 Glenn E. Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:11:11 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59499#comment-1585911 The federal govt. runs a funded program called WIC. Which helps to pay for food for women and their infants, for their first year. So in a way, the feds actually encourage unwed pregnancies. By making sure they'll be paid to eat right. But the feds just can't bare to pay for contraception. Because it might curtail future soldier boys being available for Cheney's next war. Keep em coming, from dirt poor America. That's the solution to the Army's recruitment dilemma. Oh yeah, and outsource all their civilian jobs to China. The federal govt. runs a funded program called WIC. Which helps to pay for food for women and their infants, for their first year. So in a way, the feds actually encourage unwed pregnancies. By making sure they’ll be paid to eat right. But the feds just can’t bare to pay for contraception. Because it might curtail future soldier boys being available for Cheney’s next war. Keep em coming, from dirt poor America. That’s the solution to the Army’s recruitment dilemma. Oh yeah, and outsource all their civilian jobs to China.

]]> By: Dale http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/04/carbon-credits-for-birth-control/comment-page-2/#comment-1585886 Dale Mon, 05 Oct 2009 05:02:47 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59499#comment-1585886 It depends...were the condoms biodegradable? It depends…were the condoms biodegradable?

]]> By: Ah_Yea http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/04/carbon-credits-for-birth-control/comment-page-2/#comment-1585874 Ah_Yea Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:07:24 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59499#comment-1585874 Boy, Jim and GetSmart are on to something! This would make every mass murderer a multi-millionaire! Abortion clinics would be rolling in dough! The US could fund it's wars in Afghanistan and Iraq just on "casualties" alone! Now I know the reason for Death Panels! Boy, Jim and GetSmart are on to something!

This would make every mass murderer a multi-millionaire!

Abortion clinics would be rolling in dough!

The US could fund it’s wars in Afghanistan and Iraq just on “casualties” alone!

Now I know the reason for Death Panels!

]]> By: deowll http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/04/carbon-credits-for-birth-control/comment-page-2/#comment-1585870 deowll Mon, 05 Oct 2009 03:58:43 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59499#comment-1585870 Worth a try. Some of the members of the current administration are on record suggesting putting birth control in the drinking water. Worth a try. Some of the members of the current administration are on record suggesting putting birth control in the drinking water.

]]> By: Animby http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/04/carbon-credits-for-birth-control/comment-page-1/#comment-1585843 Animby Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:26:58 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=59499#comment-1585843 Hmmmm. Should someone be paying me every time I do NOT have sex? Hmmmm.
Should someone be paying me every time I do NOT have sex?

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