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Barack Obama, the US president, has agreed to abide by a 40-year policy of allowing Israel to keep nuclear weapons without opening them to international inspection.
The Washington Times quoted three unnamed sources as saying Obama had confirmed to Binyamin Netanyahu, Israel’s prime minister, that he would maintain the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.
The incident reportedly occurred when the two met at the White House in Washington DC in May.
Neither Israel’s embassy in Washington, nor the White House National Security Council would comment on the claim…
In an interview last week with Israel’s Channel 2 media company, Netanyahu spoke of his confidence that Obama’s recent remarks on a world free of nuclear weapons would not apply to Israel…
“I want to remind you that in my first meeting with President Obama in Washington I received from him … an itemised list of the strategic understandings that have existed for many years between Israel and the United States on that issue…”
Hypocrisy continues to guide American foreign policy.
#18–Hey ammarammadingdong===when you get invaded by tanks and aircraft from four different countries out to exterminate you, your alternative to war is what?
14 LibertyLover,
“Israel is a sovereign nation responsible for their own future.”
Nothing about Israel, since it’s artificial creation by proxy in 1919, has been their “own”. They owe everything to Britain and the US.
Hey Eideard==”Hypocrisy continues to guide American foreign policy.”==why don’t you help Pedro out and tell us what you are thinking of?
Bobbo, Pedro, you’ll like this article.
#20 bobbo, yeah I know the story. It’s been a while since they’ve fought on their own turf, unless that’s what you call what they’ve done to the gaza strip. After WW2 the international sentiment was to support the british’s decision to return them to their homeland. Everyone knew they’d face enemies on all sides but no consideration was given to find a diplomatic solution to this.
I was merely making an observation based on similarities. I have no sympathy for any nation, all flags are bloody rags. The violent always find a justification for their deeds and those most responsible rarely face the consequences and often profit from them.
#24–amodedoma==everything you say is quite correct yet totally irrelevant to what you said at Post #18.
Ok. For those with international ADD, what should Israel do if its taking rockets 2-3 times per day going into the 8th month?
And remind us given you are up on the history and all, how many months the USA took to invade the aggressor on this “similar condition” and how many times have Canada or Mexico declared they wish to wipe us from the face of the map?
You know amodedoma==ideas have context as well as words. Or do you just like the way your tongue feels in your mouth as you sound them out?
#23–Ah Yea==that article is 5 months old and says not much more than what the header linked article says except to pull the pants down on that Assistant Secretary==boy was he set up. Really highlights the ASS in assistant. HAW, haw.
Only a real mouth breathing idiot would think much less say that Israel should give up anything much less think India or Pakistan would.
Is that guy out of the retard hospital yet?
25 bobbo,
We’ve sparred on this in the past. What I find amazing, is that you seem to have drawn a line in the sand and claimed everything from that point and back is irrelevent.
None of your examples have any weight in the argument of Israel Palestine… In fact, to get a very nice grasp of the depth of the problem some of their own Prime Ministers…
“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti – Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”
David Ben Gurion
#13 I was merely agreeing with the blog post title author. You want me to de-construct that phrase for you?
He said “Obama sticks with “Don’t ask, Don’t tell!” policy on Israel’s nukes”
If Obama’s “sticking” with a policy, that means someone had it before and he’s continuing it (I guess Dumbya’s among those sticking with it); ergo, no change. The title author seems to have waited a change in that regard, which he obviously seem mad that it hadn’t happened.
So again I tell you, direct your query to the title’s author.
#15 Sure, Iran is a peaceful country that has never-ever fought a war with no one.
But is always fun when kiddies try to enter an adult’s discussion.
#18 Yeah, too bad the US has a meddling history. I would’ve loved to see most of Europe speaking German today.
#22 See? Now that’s better.
#23 I’ll give it a read
#21, “Israel is a sovereign nation responsible for their own future.”
Nothing about Israel, since it’s artificial creation by proxy in 1919, has been their “own”. They owe everything to Britain and the US.
But we don’t own them. If that is what people think, then we need to rethink that.
They have spied on us. That tells me they consider themselves sovereign. Fine. Let them handle it on their own.
#28–Pedro==why would you merely agree with the author who is wrong? There has never been a “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy regarding Israeli Nukes. Eideard may be thinking he was being funny regarding homosexuals in the military or he was trying to overapply the concept of transparency and paraphrasing it to be hip? Who knows?
You admit YOU don’t know. Why would you agree with something if you don’t know what it means?
No. YOU are still on the hook. Nice wiggle but still on it.
#27–named==who died and made Ben Gurion the arbiter of all things Palestinian? Besides, your quote is irrelevant. I can’t think of anyone who has lost a battle over supremacy of the land who “liked it.” Isn’t that a rather obvious constant Ben Gurion babbles? And as long as Israel doesn’t act to kill all that would kill them like every other successful nation has done, AND the palestinians (sic) get “moral” support from the other Arabs in the area who are more than willing to scapegoat generation after generation of palestinians (sic) to be a thorn in Israeli’s side, why shouldn’t their corrupt leaders treat them that way?
Its the way of the world. Israel will keep their land as long as they do, and when they fail to do so, they will be no more==just like everyone else in history. Nothing unique about Israel at all.
#25 bobbo
Damned these interdimensional communications are difficult, or are you being sarcastically obtuse as always. I was trying to indicate there’s nothing hypocritical about Obama hanging with the homeboys. They’ve got so much in common, and even though I make this commentary I couldn’t care less. I don’t think any patch of dirt is worth dying for or killing for. Hopefully the violence in the human gene pool will eventually weed itself out by serving up the context of it’s own extinction through war.
#31–amodedoma==my childish antics aside, yes, I do sense we are more congruent in our world view than many here. Perhaps that is why I am so sensitive to when you say something totally unsupportable and moronic such as: “They both maintain wars of doubtful solution in the name of national security.” So==I’ll ask for the third time: what would you do, given Ben Gurion and everything else you can think of.
What would you do if you were Israel????
I constantly am saddened by the number of intelligent posters here who refuse to backtrack in full view of a complete FUBAR. I wonder how you all got so smart if you can’t admit to a misstatement===not even a “mistake.” Just a misstatement.
They come few and far between. Keep it up, and you and Pedro and just about everyone here but ME ((hah, hah)) will turn into real cornholders.
Destiny does it’s dirty work with individuals like Ben Gurion. This man, truly believed in the destiny of his people and prepared the whole thing magnificently. He knew he would be surrounded by enemies and the people that followed him there also knew. For that reason I’d never find myself in his situation. I’d've taken my people someplace safe, australia or something, and if god exsists I doubt he’d want me or my people in harms way or killing our neighbors. If it weren’t for religous fanaticism, palestinians and isrealis could live together, and diplomacy could take the place of threats. This situation has no solution, just consequences.
BTW I never understood why, with the prolific amount posting you do, you continue to find it necessary to resort personal afrontery.
“Is that guy out of the retard hospital yet?”
LOL!! That made me laugh!
She is still working for the Chief. Still shaping policy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Gottemoeller
#34–amodedoma==I’ve heard there was talk at the time of giving them southern germany BUT when you are the chosen people, there really is only one place to go and besides the Arabs in the area fought for the germans==so why not? Its proven out after all what but god’s will would have Israel win multiple wars against those odds stacked against them? ((Other than American war supplies and intel that is.))
It amuses me.
Once a country has developed nukes, there isn’t much you can do about it. So what is the hypocrisy?
US, Russia, China, France, UK, India, Pakistan, Israel maybe, North Korea maybe. The US has tried to keep Pakistan and North Korea from transferring their technology to other countries. Are they letting Israel give Iran nuclear weapons technology?
31 bobbo,
“I can’t think of anyone who has lost a battle over supremacy of the land who “liked it.” Isn’t that a rather obvious constant Ben Gurion babbles?”
But that’s what you’re missing. Israel didn’t reign supreme over the Palestinians after showing up one day at Antioch. Israel was given the land WITHIN Palestine by the British. There was no consent from the inhabitants. And the mandate itself tried to ameliorate the position by claiming that there should be two states: one Palestinian and one Jewish. Well, we are very well versed in how the British mandate partition. I think India, East and West Pakistan is a great example. When the British realize they were no longer wanted, they made sure that their exit was heard for decades…
I guess, if you need an analogy, it would be that your neighbour A deigned that THEIR neighbour B should live in your house with you since your neighbour A doesn’t like their neighbour B. Is that a solution you would agree too? And if not, would you accept that you are the “vanquished” if you lost the fight? Hang out in the smallest closet in the house and say “well… they won. I’ll just sit here and suffer?”
I know what you are trying to say: might makes right. But the nuance of this particular context is so varied and delicate that you cannot take the baggage of 1919 and onward and ignore it.
Israel will loose one war. After that there will be no Jews in the Palestine.
When that happens it’s to bloody late to say oops!
These people are crazy or they’d never have returned to Palestine.