Real fake Fake fake
An Italian scientist says he has reproduced the Shroud of Turin, a feat that he says proves definitively that the linen some Christians revere as Jesus Christ’s burial cloth is a medieval fake.
The shroud, measuring 14 feet, 4 inches by 3 feet, 7 inches bears the image, eerily reversed like a photographic negative, of a crucified man some believers say is Christ.
“We have shown that is possible to reproduce something which has the same characteristics as the Shroud,” Luigi Garlaschelli, who is due to illustrate the results at a conference on the para-normal this weekend in northern Italy, said on Monday.
I have always been immensely impressed with the amazing creativity of some of the forgers.
Of course the Shroud of Turin is a fake, Duh!
I also think it is a work of art, and should be in a museum.
Science itself is run through with dogma and people who react unkindly when their own accepted view of history is challenged by a contrary view, even that which is backed up by carefully authenticated data. (And as a prime example, look at North American archeology and what happens when bones and tools that correspond with earlier migrations has been handled, anything from Kennewick Man on.)
As for the shroud itself, I thought scientists had detected traces of human hormone that is produced as the result of extreme stress and/or physical torture. Regardless, good points made concerning linen strips, etc.
SO…What?
This is a paper (pdf) for consideration
I’ll never look at my Shroud of Turin shower curtain the same way.
#25 – qb, I use mine as a drop cloth.
They both look like bikers.
While it’s not surprising that this is a fake… it’s still pretty impressive who managed to pull this off all those years ago. Regardless, there is no reason to even consider the shroud as anything other than an interesting piece of cloth. No theologian ever put any credence in the claims of those who touted this as authentic.
How is it Obama’s birth certificate doesn’t merit similar skepticism…it has far less evidence going for it than the Shroud.
^^^^^^^^^^^^WHACK JOB!^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The Shroud of Turin is no more a fake than the sunrise. It is a shroud. Old, circa about 1300 or so. Their is an image on it. Nor is that fake.
What is obviously fake is the claim it is the burial shroud of Hey Zeus, oopps, Jesus. But the Catholic Church isn’t claiming it is the burial shroud of Hey, (ahem) … Jesus. Others, with an agenda are.
Any true Christian could care less if the shroud is real or fake. Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. For we walk by faith, not by sight.
#30 – Bitch! You told me the little birther had a moment of clarity and finally put the revolver in his mouth and mustered up the sack to pull the trigger. I thought the endless whining was over and that he had gone on to his heavenly reward (boy is he in for a shock).
I want this month’s child support check back, it’s playoff time and I need to go buy some scalped Dodger tickets.
Just like the grail, I’ve got one of those too.
#34 KMFIX
Can I and my Knights of the Roundtable come up and take a look at your Grail.
Didn’t the Pope who was around at the first showing of the thing convinced it was a painting, made of successive layers of watered-down white paint (or some such)?
One of the top 3 topis… strikes agin…
Who Cares… its a great economic Boom for the People of Turin…..
Oh… lets go to Armenia and Find the Ark… then we can talk…
I am really and truly sick of those who look for whatever excuse they can to deny the fact that God exists and he is real. This tops the cake with their asinine thinking of how the Shroud of Turin is fake because they were able to make a mockery [replica] of it. I hope that Italian scientist enjoys his 15 minutes of fame and the money he was paid to utter horrible blasphemies. I would not even be a bit surprised if he’s one of the scientists involved in making a body/clone for the Antichrist.
I encourage anyone who has ears to hear and eyes to see with to get a copy of the book called “Antichrist: The Cloned Image of Jesus Christ” by Joye Jeffries Pugh. The book discusses the Shroud of Turin and the coming Cloned Antichrist. The greatest deception that the world has ever seen is coming.
#39 – God is real and thinks you’re an asshole.