NVIDIA is killing the GTX260, GTX275, and GTX285 with the GTX295 almost assured to follow as it (Nvidia: NVDA) abandons the high and mid range graphics card market. Due to a massive series of engineering failures, nearly all of the company’s product line is financially under water, and mismanagement seems to be killing the company.
Not even an hour after we laid out the financial woes surrounding the Nvidia GTX275 and GTX260, word reached us that they are dead. Normally, this would be an update to the original article, but this news has enough dire implications that it needs its own story. Nvidia is in desperate shape, whoop-ass has turned to ash, and the wagons can’t be circled any tighter.
Word from sources deep in the bowels of 2701 San Tomas Expressway tell us that the OEMs have been notified that the GTX285 is EOL’d, the GTX260 is EOL in November or December depending on a few extraneous issues, and the GTX275 will be EOL’d within 2 weeks. I would expect this to happen around the time ATI launches its Juniper based boards, so before October 22.
Here’s info on their problems with Intel. And when they wanted to show off a card at a conference, they had to fake it.
Found by Brother Uncle Don.
#19. Thanks for setting it straight.
I just ordered a GTX285 for running CUDA code, ported from Matlab. It is around 20 times faster than running it on any kind of desktop PC. Modeling granulation, of pollutant dust particles in a colloidal aqueous media.
#16 ECA you’re way off:
1) it’s an issue with the OS and software that doesn’t utilize mutli-core CPUs, not Intel. It’s not like Intel are the only ones making multi-core CPUs and *that* makes it their fault. It’s programmers who still think in “old-school” linear terms with CPU threading, and compilers that mostly ignore this.
2)64bit addressing allows you use more memory, use bigger hard drives, higher resolution graphics create, more complex graphics and physics since a 64bit CPU can count higher (per byte) and more complex algorithms for encryption (security).
Basically allows more of everything giving programmers and hardware makers more breathing room to improve things.
3)Windows 7 HAS BEEN fully out for some time, and I don’t just mean the Beta/RC versions, but OEM copies have already been released, and PC makers are already working with it, and software developers also got their hands on it too. It’s just not in RETAIL yet.
Win7 is really a matured version of Vista anyway so the drivers are already compatible with it, and it’s going to be out in retail in about two weeks.
ECA you sound like an old fart, who doesn’t like change. You are welcome to keep using your old 32bit 386, and windows 3.1 if it keeps working for what you need to do. Meanwhile the rest of us will live in the 21st century with modern computers that let us do more than just play tetris, wordperfect, and lotus 1-2-3.
C’mon, it’s not like we ain’t seen this before. M$/Intel have a plan, Nvidia is in the way. Wana bet the next xBox has Intel graphics? It’s definitely M$ style business model, compatibility issues between Intel and Nvidia, ensuing legal actions, etc… This all began when Nvidia started making motherboard chipsets and started competing with Intel. Afterall if you don’t have any competitors you don’t have to compete or produce a quality product as M$ demonstrates. Too bad the antitrust laws ain’t worth spit anymore, monopolies are bad for everyone.
#23
Xbox has ATI graphics, so I don’t get the reason to switch to intel. Anyway, intel is not there yet, but could be close to power the next Xbox. I just don’t think it’s their game (pun not inteded).
intel has respectable GPU know-how, that gets dramatically overshadowed by the sheer magnitude of the two bigger GPU contenders. No reason to assume, if given the demise of one of the big ones, intel would not be perfectly capable of assuming the role…
Who else?
damn typos: #24amodedoma, not #23, in my last post…
#23, FRAG..
1. TRUE, As windows cant figure out HOW to program what they Forced intel to make.
MS OS,
MS programming language.
And AMD jumped ont he boat without doing their OWN testing.
2. Business does not need 64 bit. Unless you want to count the USA debt to the .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000~1 point.
Science might need it..but the only real reason is the HEAVY graphics for games/3D cad and very few other things.
and its NOT that it allows you more, IT REQUIRES more. esp under windows.
3. Um, you just admitted that Win7 is just another version of windows vista. The only things added are security. and we KNOW windows is lousy on securing their OWN system from everything including the USER.
Give me a windows option screen that lets me see the options for graphics and sound and everything else in 1 nice spot. Give me back my win2000 TRackball driver, LOST under winxp.
XP was stupid until RC 2, Vista has had its releases, and Win7 is NOT complete until its been in the WILD at least 1 year and had the BUGS STOMPED out of it.
If MS would cut back and follow proper procedure in programming there wouldnt be as many problems. you DONT write to the OS.
Windows is requiring MORE AND MORE AND MORE.
They need to go back to square 1, and RELEARN some of the Old programming. An OS that requires 1+gig just to operate, SUCKS.
Why would a group like MS bring a OS to an environment IF’ it didnt work properly??
Why would INTEL make hardware that wouldnt WORK with the OS it was created for??
They even bought out a Multi processor programming company to TEACH THEM.
It will end up, 1 Core controlling the Others, telling programs Which core to run on, and What part of ram is allocated for it.
Hmmm,
seems a lot of you folks didn’t see this coming!!! trends over the past few years
1) pc boxs being replaced with laptops (which have no graphics card slots)
2) consoles with their graphics chips plus a hdisk etc
3) gpus being filled with more transistors that are not used
4) cpu multicore not providing major identified performance gains so they are placing graphs etc in them.
5) 45nm lithography has 4x area capacity
6) consoles again have grabbed most of the gaming community that desire fancy graphical reality
7) online, flash based gaming
Look for bad PC gaming outcomes.
This forthcoming demise of the gpu chip leaders could be problematic for the graphics programmer enthusist as consoles are still closed to anybody, the ps3 gpu hole was quickly filled (and they have stopped the linux partition).
Will the Intels etc jump into the niche, or are they not interested. GPU programming may soon become a retro pastime.
#25 Joao
Xbox started out with Nvidia and was switched to ATI back when Nvidia started making chipset processors (2003). Coincidence? I think not. But M$ has other beefs with Nvidia (they produce linux drivers for one). Hardware and software have a lot in common, if you’re going to produce something you need to be deeply concerned about the interoperability or your products or they’re going to fail. That means having intimate knowledge of somebody else’s product. In software that means having inside information on windows and M$ has special alliances and partnerships for that, that’s how they strangled the software industry. In Hardware that means having intimate knowledge of motherboard architecture and forming strategic alliances and partnerships with other companies you may be competing with. Between M$, Intel, and AMD they’re planning to slice up the next crop of consoles/PC’s amongst themselves and leave Nvidia out. AMD’s in for a surprise though, Intel will eventually produce a half decent GPU and that will be the end for AMD. AND Finally M$/Intel will rule the technological world!
If Nvidia’s were smart they’d use the last of their resources to promote linux and, dare I say it, linux gaming and multimedia.
#amodedoma
Linux will not be a selling point in the near future. It simpliy lacks market share…Sure, some enthusiasts might jump in if they saw a benefit, but enthusiasts don’t support a giant like nVidia. They are cultivated in order to give a aura of coolness to the product, but in the end it’s the bulk markets that drive the company’s sales. And that’s intel’s market. Ever browsed DELL’s page? try to configure some machines. 90% of what they sell is “office” PCs and those carry embedded intel graphics.
nVidia is desperately seeking the next paradigm in computing. That’s why they have Tegra for mobile and handhels markets, that’s why they have chip sets. That’s why they pursue the GPU-CPU with Fermi.
29,
ANd forcing Game off the computer onto the CONSOLE.
Then you have a RE-BUY plan every 3-5 years of $300-1000 for a NEW console. ADD in NET access and GAME cost and you have 1 hell of a market to make money.
31,
also part of the problem was in the last few years…how many Video cards have been released? TONS. Advances in the cards?? FEW.
In the last 10 years what have they done? MORE ram, MORE power, and OPTIONS that should have been there already. NO real advancement. So what you can render 1 billion polygons in 1 second. MOST of it still has to go thru the CPU. The video card should TAKE the extra processing away from the CPU NOT add to it. Windows is busy ENOUGH, then you add in all the graphics processing and you get SYSTEM LAG.
I would love to see the DESKTOP rendered by the video card, NOT by windows.
GAME cache on the CARD, not my hard drive or ram..
Throw a Video/movie at the video card and it LINKS directly with the audio card and PLAYS the movie…NOT using the CPU/windows to decompress it from DIVX/AVI/MOV/FLV/VOB/…/… and the CPU trying to sync the audio to video.. that ISNT its job.
If you could just THROW the media at the Video and audio card and those cards would DO THE JOB, you would save the CPU/windows 80-90% of processing and gain that in POWER to do other things. Intel TRIED to get around this by adding EXTRA cores, but windows ISNT handling it properly..Win7 comes up, and soon (2 year) win8.
LET that 256meg PLUS video card do some work.
Er… are you people suggesting that the Fermi prototype was NOT an obvious, demonstrated fake? With a board that was obviously cut in *half* atop mis-aligned pins…? I suggest you read the article and look at the pictures.
Why on earth would nvidia have to resort to such a desperate and pathetic measure if everything were okey-dokey..?
also FRAG..
The 386 WAS 32 bit..but win 3.1 wasnt.
and from win 2000 you could have a 64bit system..
And I think the P3 started the hardware at 64 bit.. IF you had the hardware..
SOooo..64 bit isnt anything..
ANd as a kick in the shins..BEFORE 1985 the AMIGA was a 16/32 bit system.
#34
Fermi might not be into the thing in Jen-Hsun’s hand, but Fermi is real.
And ATI (sorry, can’t seem to put myself into calling them AMD…) is not sitting in it’s hands either…They are both (and arguably intel too with Larrabee) moving to the GPU-CPU scenario…You could also make the point IBM is too doing the same with the Cell, only the SPEs in the Cell are not graphic processors. Nonetheless, massive parallel computing has come to stay.