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		<title>By: Uncle Patso</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/13/sidekick-disaster-will-ultimately-cot-microsoft/comment-page-2/#comment-1589907</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Patso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know Dvorak has been saying MS is dead in the water for years now, but I had no idea he was _this_ right! This level of disorganization and incompetence usually takes generations to happen.

Bill Gates built a very successful company, but it mirrors his personality -- smart but paranoid, self-centered and with a little Asperger&#039;s thrown in. You can trace the craziness all the way back to his famous 1976 &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Letter_to_Hobbyists&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&quot;Open Letter to Hobbyists&quot;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.

What Gates failed to do was build a company that could stay strong without his guidance. Perhaps if he had read more Confucius instead of playing poker all the time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Dvorak has been saying MS is dead in the water for years now, but I had no idea he was _this_ right! This level of disorganization and incompetence usually takes generations to happen.</p>
<p>Bill Gates built a very successful company, but it mirrors his personality &#8212; smart but paranoid, self-centered and with a little Asperger&#8217;s thrown in. You can trace the craziness all the way back to his famous 1976 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Letter_to_Hobbyists" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><u>&#8220;Open Letter to Hobbyists&#8221;</u></a>.</p>
<p>What Gates failed to do was build a company that could stay strong without his guidance. Perhaps if he had read more Confucius instead of playing poker all the time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hamranhansenhansen</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/13/sidekick-disaster-will-ultimately-cot-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-1589758</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamranhansenhansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who make excuses for Microsoft ought to be ashamed. They are responsible for all of the biggest technical disasters: viruses that cripple your computer, commercial malware that steals money from your bank account, botnets that use up 25% or more of all Internet bandwidth, failing to ship a whole Windows client (2004) which cost PC makers and user billions, failing to rebound from that with Vista, and now the most massive end user data loss in world history. No other platforms have any of these problems. There is a new Mac OS or Linux every couple of months and they have no viruses or commercial malware. You cannot excuse the fact that Microsoft can&#039;t compete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who make excuses for Microsoft ought to be ashamed. They are responsible for all of the biggest technical disasters: viruses that cripple your computer, commercial malware that steals money from your bank account, botnets that use up 25% or more of all Internet bandwidth, failing to ship a whole Windows client (2004) which cost PC makers and user billions, failing to rebound from that with Vista, and now the most massive end user data loss in world history. No other platforms have any of these problems. There is a new Mac OS or Linux every couple of months and they have no viruses or commercial malware. You cannot excuse the fact that Microsoft can&#8217;t compete.</p>
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		<title>By: MrLemming</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/13/sidekick-disaster-will-ultimately-cot-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-1589741</link>
		<dc:creator>MrLemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes the money goes to tmobile and then to MS but tmobile don&#039;t have a choice if they want to sell the phones.

Though to be honest the hole things stupid anyways the sidekick system makes little sense i had a 2 and unless you had a signal at the time you wanted to use it and the 5mins prior to that you where cracking but once it went all the data on the phone was gone till the signal came back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes the money goes to tmobile and then to MS but tmobile don&#8217;t have a choice if they want to sell the phones.</p>
<p>Though to be honest the hole things stupid anyways the sidekick system makes little sense i had a 2 and unless you had a signal at the time you wanted to use it and the 5mins prior to that you where cracking but once it went all the data on the phone was gone till the signal came back.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/13/sidekick-disaster-will-ultimately-cot-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-1589356</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not convinced of the sabotage angle. An equally likely scenario is that someone accidentally fried all the records in one or more of the tables or zapped an encryption key making the data effectively useless. Part of what makes me think this is that they stated that Danger employees had higher level of access to the data than normal developers do on projects. Never attribute to conspiracy that which can be attributed to incompetence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not convinced of the sabotage angle. An equally likely scenario is that someone accidentally fried all the records in one or more of the tables or zapped an encryption key making the data effectively useless. Part of what makes me think this is that they stated that Danger employees had higher level of access to the data than normal developers do on projects. Never attribute to conspiracy that which can be attributed to incompetence.</p>
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		<title>By: gquaglia</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/13/sidekick-disaster-will-ultimately-cot-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-1589315</link>
		<dc:creator>gquaglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsuck, inept on so many levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsuck, inept on so many levels.</p>
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		<title>By: the flammer</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/13/sidekick-disaster-will-ultimately-cot-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-1589268</link>
		<dc:creator>the flammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John C. Must be loving this so much he is bathing in it! 

And for the record I am against putting sensitive info on &quot;the cloud&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John C. Must be loving this so much he is bathing in it! </p>
<p>And for the record I am against putting sensitive info on &#8220;the cloud&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/13/sidekick-disaster-will-ultimately-cot-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-1589251</link>
		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how hard would it be for Msft or T-Mobile to make some kind of software which would let you safely backup your Sidekick data (which is still on your Sidekick as long as you haven&#039;t let it shut down) onto your PC.

So, when they&#039;ve fixed the problem, you can still get your data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how hard would it be for Msft or T-Mobile to make some kind of software which would let you safely backup your Sidekick data (which is still on your Sidekick as long as you haven&#8217;t let it shut down) onto your PC.</p>
<p>So, when they&#8217;ve fixed the problem, you can still get your data.</p>
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		<title>By: yanikinwaoz</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/13/sidekick-disaster-will-ultimately-cot-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-1589180</link>
		<dc:creator>yanikinwaoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you sure? How is the plan paid for? Follow the money. If you are paying T-Mobile for the service, then THEY are responsible.

If you pay MS for the service, then you are correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure? How is the plan paid for? Follow the money. If you are paying T-Mobile for the service, then THEY are responsible.</p>
<p>If you pay MS for the service, then you are correct.</p>
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		<title>By: MrLemming</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/13/sidekick-disaster-will-ultimately-cot-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-1589174</link>
		<dc:creator>MrLemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12 yanikinwaoz

I think you maybe mistaken on this one. The deal as far as i am aware after talking to a tmobile member of staff (maby not the most reliable sourse) is not an out sourceing one. T-mobile mearly sell the phones and run the plans whilst Danger/Microsoft run the well clever part the cloud and make the hardware/software at the end of the day tmobile aren&#039;t as responcible as you make out. Its microsoft that cut the corner by outsourcing not tmobile. Its similar to the way tmobile run there blackberries in that all they do is the data/cell service and RIM make the hardware and set you up on their system (which i would imagine is thourghly backedup by know)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12 yanikinwaoz</p>
<p>I think you maybe mistaken on this one. The deal as far as i am aware after talking to a tmobile member of staff (maby not the most reliable sourse) is not an out sourceing one. T-mobile mearly sell the phones and run the plans whilst Danger/Microsoft run the well clever part the cloud and make the hardware/software at the end of the day tmobile aren&#8217;t as responcible as you make out. Its microsoft that cut the corner by outsourcing not tmobile. Its similar to the way tmobile run there blackberries in that all they do is the data/cell service and RIM make the hardware and set you up on their system (which i would imagine is thourghly backedup by know)</p>
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		<title>By: yanikinwaoz</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/13/sidekick-disaster-will-ultimately-cot-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-1589165</link>
		<dc:creator>yanikinwaoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to blame T-Mobile for this one. They are ultimately responsible.

This perfectly illustrates the dangers of outsourcing. Even if you choose a well established vendor (Microsoft in this case), have SLA&#039;s (they did), you can still get burned.

Lesson learned for business: An SLA is not enough. You must also audit and test your vendors.  A good disaster recovery drill on T-Mobile&#039;s part would have uncovered this problem before it happened.

The fact that T-Mobile blindly trusted their vendor was T-Mobile&#039;s mistake. Microsoft did what any subcontractor/vendor does over time when not being closely watched. They boost their profits by taking shortcuts.

While it is true that MS f**ked up, and that will hurt their subcontracting business, the buck stops with T-Mobile. T-Mobile&#039;s customers rightly don&#039;t care who, or how, T-Mobile gets the job done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to blame T-Mobile for this one. They are ultimately responsible.</p>
<p>This perfectly illustrates the dangers of outsourcing. Even if you choose a well established vendor (Microsoft in this case), have SLA&#8217;s (they did), you can still get burned.</p>
<p>Lesson learned for business: An SLA is not enough. You must also audit and test your vendors.  A good disaster recovery drill on T-Mobile&#8217;s part would have uncovered this problem before it happened.</p>
<p>The fact that T-Mobile blindly trusted their vendor was T-Mobile&#8217;s mistake. Microsoft did what any subcontractor/vendor does over time when not being closely watched. They boost their profits by taking shortcuts.</p>
<p>While it is true that MS f**ked up, and that will hurt their subcontracting business, the buck stops with T-Mobile. T-Mobile&#8217;s customers rightly don&#8217;t care who, or how, T-Mobile gets the job done.</p>
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		<title>By: bdgbill</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/13/sidekick-disaster-will-ultimately-cot-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-1589142</link>
		<dc:creator>bdgbill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I have ever seen anyone over the age of 17 with a sidekick. While this data loss is a blow to cloud computing in general, I doubt anyone has lost the final draft to their thesis on one of these things.

Little Brittany and LaQuisha will just have to look up the number of their ecstasy dealer and reprogram their speed dials when the service comes back up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I have ever seen anyone over the age of 17 with a sidekick. While this data loss is a blow to cloud computing in general, I doubt anyone has lost the final draft to their thesis on one of these things.</p>
<p>Little Brittany and LaQuisha will just have to look up the number of their ecstasy dealer and reprogram their speed dials when the service comes back up.</p>
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		<title>By: amodedoma</title>
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		<dc:creator>amodedoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7 tuckinfypo

It&#039;s no rumour that T-mobile has suspended sidekick sales or that T-mobile clients lost data.  Where&#039;s the rumour? Sidekick was getting fed by M$/Danger.  T-Mobile and M$/Danger have apologized.  T-Mobile has put sidekicks on their website as - temporarily out of stock.  These are all facts not rumours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7 tuckinfypo</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no rumour that T-mobile has suspended sidekick sales or that T-mobile clients lost data.  Where&#8217;s the rumour? Sidekick was getting fed by M$/Danger.  T-Mobile and M$/Danger have apologized.  T-Mobile has put sidekicks on their website as &#8211; temporarily out of stock.  These are all facts not rumours.</p>
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		<title>By: leonardino</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/13/sidekick-disaster-will-ultimately-cot-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-1589118</link>
		<dc:creator>leonardino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article linked is a good read.  

Though, I still don&#039;t know why DU editors provide the links.  No one visiting here actually reads the articles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article linked is a good read.  </p>
<p>Though, I still don&#8217;t know why DU editors provide the links.  No one visiting here actually reads the articles.</p>
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		<title>By: deowll</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/13/sidekick-disaster-will-ultimately-cot-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-1589116</link>
		<dc:creator>deowll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were t-mobile I&#039;d dump Macrocrap for failure to perform and getting in the way of my bottom line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were t-mobile I&#8217;d dump Macrocrap for failure to perform and getting in the way of my bottom line.</p>
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		<title>By: tucking_fypo</title>
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		<dc:creator>tucking_fypo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not an article. It&#039;s a blog post by a mac apologist, and it points to a biased apple site for its facts. I&#039;m not saying that microsoft didn&#039;t screw the pooch here, but you can&#039;t treat this as news. It&#039;s gossip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not an article. It&#8217;s a blog post by a mac apologist, and it points to a biased apple site for its facts. I&#8217;m not saying that microsoft didn&#8217;t screw the pooch here, but you can&#8217;t treat this as news. It&#8217;s gossip.</p>
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