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	<title>Comments on: DARPA, Microsoft, Lockheed team up to reinvent TCP/IP?</title>
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		<title>By: Guyver</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/16/darpa-microsoft-lockheed-team-up-to-reinvent-tcpip/comment-page-2/#comment-1590956</link>
		<dc:creator>Guyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>23, Forgot to say that Lockheed is probably not composed of mostly Aerospace Engineers.  

Yes they are an Aerospace company like Boeing and Northrup Grumman, but they employ many Electrical, Computer, and Mechanical Engineers as well (who more than likely dwarf the number of people who are formally Aerospace Engineers).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>23, Forgot to say that Lockheed is probably not composed of mostly Aerospace Engineers.  </p>
<p>Yes they are an Aerospace company like Boeing and Northrup Grumman, but they employ many Electrical, Computer, and Mechanical Engineers as well (who more than likely dwarf the number of people who are formally Aerospace Engineers).</p>
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		<title>By: Guyver</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/16/darpa-microsoft-lockheed-team-up-to-reinvent-tcpip/comment-page-2/#comment-1590917</link>
		<dc:creator>Guyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>23, DARPA and the U.S. Army invented the Internet.  Educational institutions came along later.  The original purpose was to find ways to communicate when the head of one&#039;s own snake got chopped off so that a combat mission wasn&#039;t in danger or had to be scrapped.  

It&#039;s my understanding they were thinking of nodal communication sometime in the 1950s but didn&#039;t start formally developing things until starting in the mid or late 60s to early 70s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>23, DARPA and the U.S. Army invented the Internet.  Educational institutions came along later.  The original purpose was to find ways to communicate when the head of one&#8217;s own snake got chopped off so that a combat mission wasn&#8217;t in danger or had to be scrapped.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s my understanding they were thinking of nodal communication sometime in the 1950s but didn&#8217;t start formally developing things until starting in the mid or late 60s to early 70s.</p>
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		<title>By: Pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/16/darpa-microsoft-lockheed-team-up-to-reinvent-tcpip/comment-page-2/#comment-1590868</link>
		<dc:creator>Pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dvorak,
do you know that in Portugal (where you´ve been recently) there´s a 1Gb internet link for private users?
1st country in the world they saying.
it´s available in Korea and Japan but for business only.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zon.pt/Internet/Detalhe.aspx?detail=XzU266&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;check it out&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dvorak,<br />
do you know that in Portugal (where you´ve been recently) there´s a 1Gb internet link for private users?<br />
1st country in the world they saying.<br />
it´s available in Korea and Japan but for business only.<br />
<a href="http://www.zon.pt/Internet/Detalhe.aspx?detail=XzU266" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><u>check it out</u></a></p>
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		<title>By: Glenn E.</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/16/darpa-microsoft-lockheed-team-up-to-reinvent-tcpip/comment-page-2/#comment-1590862</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does a firm of mostly aerospace engineers, automatically qualify as the perfect candidate for a data security and information system programming job? I mean, hello! There&#039;s nothing aeronautical about this job. So they&#039;ll have to start hiring programmers, they never employed before. And just about any firm could do that. But naturally, the military favors one of its own. So Lockheed Martin gets the job. Maybe because their F22 Raptor isn&#039;t going to get approved. Got to get their major stockholders rich, somehow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does a firm of mostly aerospace engineers, automatically qualify as the perfect candidate for a data security and information system programming job? I mean, hello! There&#8217;s nothing aeronautical about this job. So they&#8217;ll have to start hiring programmers, they never employed before. And just about any firm could do that. But naturally, the military favors one of its own. So Lockheed Martin gets the job. Maybe because their F22 Raptor isn&#8217;t going to get approved. Got to get their major stockholders rich, somehow.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/16/darpa-microsoft-lockheed-team-up-to-reinvent-tcpip/comment-page-2/#comment-1590847</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DARPA knows it&#039;s stuff, whether you like em or not.

However, what I see is multiple generals demanding bandwidth at the same time for &quot;high-priority&quot; discussions and stepping on each other with a big hissy fit.

I think what they really need is for routing to have a redo -- with multiple levels of routers for each type of traffic, separate from basic tcp/ip.  Or increase overall bandwidth with massive redundant pipes -- why don&#039;t all primary core routers these days have 16 core processors and 64 linked gigabyte connections?

Or perhaps they do and I&#039;m just not paying attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DARPA knows it&#8217;s stuff, whether you like em or not.</p>
<p>However, what I see is multiple generals demanding bandwidth at the same time for &#8220;high-priority&#8221; discussions and stepping on each other with a big hissy fit.</p>
<p>I think what they really need is for routing to have a redo &#8212; with multiple levels of routers for each type of traffic, separate from basic tcp/ip.  Or increase overall bandwidth with massive redundant pipes &#8212; why don&#8217;t all primary core routers these days have 16 core processors and 64 linked gigabyte connections?</p>
<p>Or perhaps they do and I&#8217;m just not paying attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Camp</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/16/darpa-microsoft-lockheed-team-up-to-reinvent-tcpip/comment-page-2/#comment-1590803</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Camp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 04:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft? So the current Internet will not be upgradeable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft? So the current Internet will not be upgradeable.</p>
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		<title>By: GetSmart</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/16/darpa-microsoft-lockheed-team-up-to-reinvent-tcpip/comment-page-1/#comment-1590780</link>
		<dc:creator>GetSmart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;All your base are belong to Gates.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All your base are belong to Gates.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'nKangaroo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/16/darpa-microsoft-lockheed-team-up-to-reinvent-tcpip/comment-page-1/#comment-1590734</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'nKangaroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 23:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#17  But its a defense industry contract, so quadruple the budget, double the time-line, and then kill the program and start over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17  But its a defense industry contract, so quadruple the budget, double the time-line, and then kill the program and start over.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Ripper</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/16/darpa-microsoft-lockheed-team-up-to-reinvent-tcpip/comment-page-1/#comment-1590726</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Ripper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 23:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things that might happen when you pull the trigger on your Microsoft powered digital weapon.

&quot;Are you sure you want to shoot the target : no / yes&quot; (no is the default response)
 
&quot;An undetectable error has occurred&quot;

&quot;You have new updates. Apply now yes / no&quot;

&quot;Your weapon is not activated - please call HQ and quote this 128 character activation key&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things that might happen when you pull the trigger on your Microsoft powered digital weapon.</p>
<p>&#8220;Are you sure you want to shoot the target : no / yes&#8221; (no is the default response)</p>
<p>&#8220;An undetectable error has occurred&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You have new updates. Apply now yes / no&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Your weapon is not activated &#8211; please call HQ and quote this 128 character activation key&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/16/darpa-microsoft-lockheed-team-up-to-reinvent-tcpip/comment-page-1/#comment-1590696</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh, so for the equivalent cost of 2 government websites we will get a new internet. That sounds like a hell of a deal!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, so for the equivalent cost of 2 government websites we will get a new internet. That sounds like a hell of a deal!</p>
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		<title>By: Buzz</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/16/darpa-microsoft-lockheed-team-up-to-reinvent-tcpip/comment-page-1/#comment-1590688</link>
		<dc:creator>Buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always trust Microsoft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always trust Microsoft.</p>
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		<title>By: Guyver</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/16/darpa-microsoft-lockheed-team-up-to-reinvent-tcpip/comment-page-1/#comment-1590668</link>
		<dc:creator>Guyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/kqt3sj&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Hunt for the Kill Switch&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/kqt3sj" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><u>Hunt for the Kill Switch</u></a></p>
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		<title>By: Guyver</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/16/darpa-microsoft-lockheed-team-up-to-reinvent-tcpip/comment-page-1/#comment-1590667</link>
		<dc:creator>Guyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the floodgates were opened to have integrated circuits fabricated in China, some very wise civilians with MBA degrees working at the DOD came up with the novel idea of using common off the shelf products (COTS) for military use because it was more cost effective.

Then one day the military had an oh sh1t moment when they realized that a lot of their computer and weapons tech has parts made in China.  Why is this bad?

1.  The Chinese continually try hacking into government and corporate networks on a daily basis in order to steal secrets.

2.  The Chinese may halt exports to our country at some future point in time when they disagree with the U.S. over some geopolitical reason.

3.  The Chinese may be fudging on the quality of their parts so parts may be unreliable.

4.  The Chinese may have back doors built into circuits they are fabricating.

5.  The Chinese may have kill switches built into circuits they are fabricating.

DARPA has another program to address all but the export issue.  It&#039;s called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.darpa.mil/MTO/Programs/trust/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Trust in Integrated Circuits&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the floodgates were opened to have integrated circuits fabricated in China, some very wise civilians with MBA degrees working at the DOD came up with the novel idea of using common off the shelf products (COTS) for military use because it was more cost effective.</p>
<p>Then one day the military had an oh sh1t moment when they realized that a lot of their computer and weapons tech has parts made in China.  Why is this bad?</p>
<p>1.  The Chinese continually try hacking into government and corporate networks on a daily basis in order to steal secrets.</p>
<p>2.  The Chinese may halt exports to our country at some future point in time when they disagree with the U.S. over some geopolitical reason.</p>
<p>3.  The Chinese may be fudging on the quality of their parts so parts may be unreliable.</p>
<p>4.  The Chinese may have back doors built into circuits they are fabricating.</p>
<p>5.  The Chinese may have kill switches built into circuits they are fabricating.</p>
<p>DARPA has another program to address all but the export issue.  It&#8217;s called <a href="http://www.darpa.mil/MTO/Programs/trust/index.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><u>Trust in Integrated Circuits</u></a></p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many versions will there be?

- Ultimate (includes a network tech)
- Business
- Home Premium
- Home Basic
- Starter TCP (doesn&#039;t include IP)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many versions will there be?</p>
<p>- Ultimate (includes a network tech)<br />
- Business<br />
- Home Premium<br />
- Home Basic<br />
- Starter TCP (doesn&#8217;t include IP)</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'nKangaroo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cap'nKangaroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I thought they were already using a separate network or has that one failed?&quot;

I think their satellite network is totally separate from commercial but I would guess their landlines use the same backbone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I thought they were already using a separate network or has that one failed?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think their satellite network is totally separate from commercial but I would guess their landlines use the same backbone.</p>
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