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Who would have though Franklin would be a babe magnet?
It was not an anti-rape bill. It had nothing to do with rape. It was a bill against government contracts with contractors with non binding arbitration. Read if before claiming people are for rape.
While I do agree with the bill you people are going crazy over something you haven’t looked at.
Here’s the worst of it — IMHO.
Everybody has known for YEARS that KBR and Blackwater are moral hell-holes. Evil from top to bottom. Hurting us severely in the “war on terror.”
Yet they continue to get our tax dollars by the tanker load.
Most large corporations have mandatory arbitration clauses just like the one at issue and all are enforced against all such claims all the time, every day, all over the USA.
Nothing prevents USA criminal charges being filed by whoever has jurisdiction–if anyone cared to do so.
There are justice systems where a rape would be a public crime, and therefore be prosecuted by the Public Ministry, instead of the victim having to prosecute. In fact under this, if any official got knowledge of such a crime, he is obliged by law to report on it.
Granted I don’t know much about american justice (other Law & Order, and all the TV law crap) but it seems to me that this legal disposition is in much need.
There is a lot more shit than this. Don’t work in the middle east under any circumstances. The very first thing they will try and cheat you out of is overtime, which will be the least of your worries.
More evidence we need to vote every incumbent out, democrats, republicans and independents…everyone…start new.
I’m sure Franken will begin acting like the rest of them soon…they corrupt each other.
#22 Greensaab…you’re full of crap. It’s specifically about sexual assault and related crimes. Go read the amendment
And by the way, it’s Franken
Awesome.
Franken is exactly what we need in Congress. No nonsense, factual, in your face representation of the people.
Franken 2012.
Read all the contracts you are living under right now (leases, credit cards, brokerage agreements, etc.) and you will find binding arbitration clauses in all of them.
They are never to make things “fair”. That’s why they are there.
If you don’t like it, you can get a different credit card – never mind – they all have that clause. Rent a different property – never mind – they all have that clause.
Get the picture?
That’s not a benefit of so-called “free markets”. It is a result of markets that are too free.
The golden rule says: He who has the gold makes the rules.
#24 bobbo
There was a time (now overturned, I believe) when American contractors/mercs in Iraq were not subject to criminal law anywhere. For a long time the highest authority in Iraq was the American overseer, and one of his executive orders was that American contractors were not subject to Iraqi law, presumably only US law. Meanwhile, back in the US, the law here said American contractors were not subject to US prosecution for acts that took place outside the US. Working together, these 2 legal structures meant there was complete criminal immunity for these rapists. These binding arbitration contracts effectively limit meaningful civil recourse as well.
@#28
What Franken did was a small part of a bigger package being voted on. The republicans voted on this as a whole not just one little tiny thing. So maybe you are the one that needs to read it.
#24, Bobbo,
As #31, Nada points out, all foreign contractors in Iraq were immune from Iraqi law. The State Department also gave them immunity from American law as well. That immunity has been challenged somewhat by the Justice Department as outside the State’s jurisdiction.
In this case, the company did not rape the victim, the perpetrators did. While supervisors may be charged, the company can’t as you can’t put the company behind bars.
You are correct that anyone may file a criminal charge. That however, only works to put guilty people behind bars. It will not pay for the victim’s losses. That requires a separate, civil suit.
Arbitration bars most civil suits. While those on the being sued end cheer them, those injured looking for their day in court don’t. Courts have lately been ruling some arbitration clauses null as they end up being too onerous. At least one forum, the NAB (I believe) have been denied from arbitrating in several States due to their bias.
My brother applied for an Iraq truck driving job…it paid $80,000+ a year…
He said the pay was high because of the risk…and those who took these jobs accepted that risk for the high pay…
So its not that clear she has a right to sue…
If she does, then no contract is safe from revision…and chaos reigns, not law.
Perhaps that was the point of these Republicans…they didn’t make it well on the video.
#34
“So its not that clear she has a right to sue…”
Really? You really believe that?
I suppose you might be right if one of the risks that was itemized for this young woman was that she might be drugged and gang-raped by co-workers then locked in a crate.
You are out of your mind.
@#35
She had the right to arbitration but didn’t use it. Do you think an arbitrator would not find for her? She should have used the legal options she had.
This was an effective inventory. We now know exactly how many senators Haliburton owns.
#36
It was mandatory binding arbitration ace. If she had engaged arbitration and been given $5, she would have had no recourse for appeal.
And FYI… she is using the legal options available to her: she’s fighting the crap out of this injustice.
The rape defenders here twist and turn prettily? Don’t they?
Rape is wrong, period. A corporate environment that allows such behavior when obviously they could train, manage, and deal with employees in a professional manner should be punished.
How did I know that Alfred1 would support the senators who opposed this bill?