A Real Patriot Is…

By Tuesday October 20, 2009





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  1. bobbo, the time tripping overlord says:
    10/20/2009 at 5:52 pm

    #40–DJ==like all too many, on anything except slavish agreement, you take offense. Nowhere did I criticize Milams service. Surely “patriotism” and any other characteristic of a man must be individually assessed==otherwise you are being categorical.

    OK==as you wish “all firemen” are patriotic. All teachers too. What about those in the military/fire brigarde, teaching service who are spies for Soviet Russia??? Are they also patriots because they are employed in categories you approve of?

    Is it possible or impossible that sewer workers are patriotic?

    Go to the end of the line and consult with Beonarri about what “words mean” because you are coming off illiterate==which is unpatriotic in my view. Maybe not my view right now, but in one hundred years, I’m sure loving the dictionary will be patriotic.

    Dolt.

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  2. DJ says:
    10/20/2009 at 6:05 pm

    bobo – I didn’t imply that you criticize the service… I said you don’t understand the concept of service… and I stand by that. You’re a overly verbose, self-important, hypercritical blowhard who knows nothing of service or sacrifice. All you care about is proving others wrong. And, oh by the way, I believe that your average “military/fire brigarde, teaching service who are spies for Soviet Russia and sewer workers” is far more patriotic and knows more about service and sacrifice than you.

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  3. bobbo, the time tripping overlord says:
    10/20/2009 at 6:17 pm

    #42–DJ==sure. You don’t know who I am, what I’ve done, what I have not done. No, the blog is about “ideas” even if our activist editor is having fun posting this item under “humor.”

    Words have meaning. YOU seem to define many of them in your unique way. When I call someone a pussy who doesn’t understand the meaning of a word, I DO MEAN to be expressly critical.

    Is that what you mean by not trying to imply? Anyone twisty enough to gain meaning by denying a negative wouldn’t be miscuing the word/concept of patriotism to begin with, so if consistency is any guide==you simply fail to deal with the issues actually raised and buttress those with additional analysis that is irrelevant.

    Good job.

    Re read the definition of patriotism. Note it does NOT include anyone in a uniform. Would that it were so, we could all don white smocks and be doctors. Or don’t you think that is what being a doctor means?

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  4. Faxon says:
    10/20/2009 at 7:13 pm

    Today I was a news photographer in a meeting of the San Francisco Metropolitan Transit Board. They were discussing how they want to expand the parking meter hours to midnight and Sundays. The head guy Nathanial Ford, told me that parking meters’ main reason for existence was NOT for revenue, but rather, to make parking available. Another city official echoed this as the reason for parking meters.
    My question to him was, “Well, if that’s true, why do you guys keep raising the parking fines?”
    Of course no answer except a smug grin and shrug.
    Jerks.
    They won’t even admit that it is all about a punitative income device, and they couldn’t live without the money.
    BTW, a ticket for an expired meter in the fucked up city of San Francisco is now $63.00.
    But don’t worry. It’s just to keep cars rotating in and out of parking places so we can “Spread the parking around….”

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  5. Faxon says:
    10/20/2009 at 7:18 pm

    And, uh, Bobbo… Don’t you think you can spare us all SIXTEEN FUCKING comments?????????

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  6. Hmeyers says:
    10/20/2009 at 7:53 pm

    @ Bobbo’s comment to some royal ugly dude:

    “Is that what you mean by not trying to imply?”

    Life is more than word games. Figure this out before it is too late.

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  7. bobbo, the time tripping overlord says:
    10/20/2009 at 8:09 pm

    #45–Faxon==16? Who knew? But yours must then be the 16th response deserving of this my 17th response. Yes==if you respond to me, I will respond to you as long as the conversation goes forward.

    I agree the meters are to move the traffic. The fines are to pay for the enforcement system to keep the meters keeping the traffic moving. Its like a little eco system.

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  8. bobbo, words have meaning says:
    10/20/2009 at 8:10 pm

    #46–HMyers==thats true, but learning to think is hardly much more.

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  9. hhopper says:
    10/20/2009 at 9:38 pm

    A patriot is a person who loves his country regardless of the assholes who run it.

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  10. amodedoma says:
    10/20/2009 at 10:04 pm

    Personally I see nothing ‘good’ about being a patriot. No one chooses where to be born, so why the hell should they owe any allegiance. I find this akin to being baptised as a baby and because of that one finds oneself part of a religous community. It also parallels racial or cultural pride in the same way. It seems to me to be a source of pride for cowards and morons. They are the inertia holding back evolution.

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  11. Joe says:
    10/20/2009 at 10:41 pm

    Love your country. Hate your government.

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  12. Dr Dodd says:
    10/21/2009 at 4:03 am

    #51-Joe

    We also love our country and hate Obama and his Chicago-style Thugocracy. A day will come when that treasonous hack will be neutered and properity will have a chance to thrive once again.

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  13. Phydeau says:
    10/21/2009 at 4:26 am

    #52 clap clap clap clap

    Rush couldn’t have said it any better! Good little dittohead. :)

    Once again the wingnuts are projecting their own faults onto those they hate. If you wanted to see “thugocracy” you could have looked at Congress when it was controlled by Republicans during Dubya’s reign of error. The R’s ruthlessly shut the D’s out of all legislative activity.

    And now, Obama babbles about bipartisanship, still begging the Republicans to work with him. While they continually tell him to go f*ck himself. That’s not thugocracy, that’s pussocracy. :(

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  14. Dr Dodd says:
    10/21/2009 at 5:37 am

    #53-Phydeau-Obama babbles about bipartisanship, still begging the Republicans to work with him.

    Obama only babbles and begs for bipartisanship so he can blame Republicans when his delusions of grandeur decapitates his community organizer head.

    He is a teleprompter reading treasonous hack that is stealing freedoms at record pace and you defend this atrocity. why? Because you hate Bush.

    Perhaps you should stop living in the past and take a glimpse at the present.

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  15. Phydeau says:
    10/21/2009 at 5:56 am

    Uh… thanks for playing, Dodd. (backing slowly away)

    It would be nice if the wingnuts could agree on which insults they throw at Obama. Sometimes he’s a totally incompetent boob who should be thrown out of office because he’s screwing up. Sometimes he’s an evil genius bent on turning the U.S. into a communist/socialist/fascist dictatorship. Sometimes he’s in the pocket of the rich and doing their bidding. Sometimes he’s a radical Christian, sometimes he’s a radical Muslim.

    I mean, which is it, wingnuts? He can’t be all of those things — well, in reality he can’t, maybe in wingnut world he can.

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  16. Dr Dodd says:
    10/21/2009 at 6:53 am

    #55-Phydeau

    No reason to muddy the waters.

    Obama is a leftist charlatan that lied his way into the presidency using his race. We know this because his qualifications for the job is nonexistent.

    Obama’s actions while in office speak for themselves. He cozies up to dictators, communist, socialist, murderers, thieves, deceivers… etc all the while apologizing for the prosperity of this country.

    His exploits of intimidation toward US citizens are now epic as is his stealing the economic future from the next generation with trillion dollar debts.

    He embraces a one world government and considers the Constitution an obstacle to be shredded instead of defending it as his oath to office demands.

    You might be confused about Obama, but there is no mystery as to where this treasonous hack stands.

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  17. Floyd says:
    10/21/2009 at 7:20 am

    On the patriotism thread: George Patton supposedly observed that in war, “Don’t be a fool and die for your country. Let the other sonofabitch die for his.” That should be kept in mind by anyone in the military. Yes, I did a hitch in the Army for a few years…

    On Obama: he’s a work in progress, but he’s already more competent than George Dubya ever was. Of course, the kid flipping burgers at McD’s is more competent than Dubya.

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  18. Phydeau says:
    10/21/2009 at 7:38 am

    #56 Thanks for that copy’n'paste job, from wherever you got it. Very dramatic. I especially like “His exploits of intimidation toward US citizens are now epic”. It’s all just verbal diarrhea but hey, whatever makes you feel good.

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  19. Dr Dodd says:
    10/21/2009 at 8:07 am

    #58-Phydeau-Thanks for that copy’n’paste job…

    You’re funny.

    I sometimes forget liberals can’t think until the approved text is received from the Democrat Party. The old lord n’ master Obama’s stamp of approval before words just words can be disseminated among the flock and detractors.

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  20. Ralph, the Bus Driver says:
    10/21/2009 at 8:19 am

    #40, DJ,

    It doesn’t have to be a warrior in Afghanistan, it could be local police, firemen, or teachers. They serve the rest of us and sacrifice the financial gain of more lucrative fields. I call that patriotism.

    And I call that bullshit.

    Is a community hired policeman a better person (patriot) that a privately hired security guard? What about a teacher at a private school compared to a public school teacher? Why does someone’s employer determine if they are a good person or patriot?

    Anyone who strives to make this country a better place because it is the right thing to do is a patriot. Not one more and not one less.

    And BTW, I did serve. And I do try to make this country a little better every day.

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