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	<title>Comments on: Florida asshats sue to evict 6-y.o. girl from her home and into foster care!</title>
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		<title>By: Toby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you FAIL to disclose is that the 55+ community could be decertified by the state and lose its tax exemption (in Florida about HALF of the considerable real estate taxes are for the school tax which is mostly exempt in 55+ communities).  This savings is equal to about $480,0000 per year in this community.  Are these people going to pay that if the community is decertified.  These people have been warned for FIVE friggin years to move. These idiots could always rent their house out and move if they wanted to. Don’t be fooled by the MSM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you FAIL to disclose is that the 55+ community could be decertified by the state and lose its tax exemption (in Florida about HALF of the considerable real estate taxes are for the school tax which is mostly exempt in 55+ communities).  This savings is equal to about $480,0000 per year in this community.  Are these people going to pay that if the community is decertified.  These people have been warned for FIVE friggin years to move. These idiots could always rent their house out and move if they wanted to. Don’t be fooled by the MSM.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Varner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Varner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is people such as the ones in this HOA that are turning this country into an ugly heartless place to be. It reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw, &quot;never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.&quot;
You know some of these people in the HOA have Grandchildren. I imagine they have as little to do with them as possible. And they wonder why teens today are so disrespectful toward elderly people.
The welfare of a child should trump any HOA rules.
Back to the problem at hand now.
I am going to find a mailing address for Mr. and Mrs. Stottler, and  make a donation. I don&#039;t have much, but every little bit.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is people such as the ones in this HOA that are turning this country into an ugly heartless place to be. It reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw, &#8220;never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.&#8221;<br />
You know some of these people in the HOA have Grandchildren. I imagine they have as little to do with them as possible. And they wonder why teens today are so disrespectful toward elderly people.<br />
The welfare of a child should trump any HOA rules.<br />
Back to the problem at hand now.<br />
I am going to find a mailing address for Mr. and Mrs. Stottler, and  make a donation. I don&#8217;t have much, but every little bit&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph, the Bus Driver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph, the Bus Driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25, Jim,

I agree with you right up the point where bad laws should be overturned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25, Jim,</p>
<p>I agree with you right up the point where bad laws should be overturned.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;An all those neighbors will describe themselves as “Christians”&quot;

HAR HAR HAR Close but no cigar! THINK about that one again...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;An all those neighbors will describe themselves as “Christians”&#8221;</p>
<p>HAR HAR HAR Close but no cigar! THINK about that one again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlike the people on this board who would evict homeschooled kids from their home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike the people on this board who would evict homeschooled kids from their home.</p>
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		<title>By: Divotdawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Divotdawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, is this for real?  Have they lost their minds?  Do you really think this beautiful little girl should be uprooted from the only safe, loving home she&#039;s ever known and placed with strangers who are only going to take her in for the money???  How dare they do this to this couple.  If they&#039;re more concerned with their precious &quot;rules&quot; than this &quot;precious&quot; child, then their priorities are totally screwed up and I hope they burn in hell.  Wake up, America!  We need to stand behind this couple and make sure this child does NOT go into the system.  Screw their rules.  This is a child!  Make them take them to court and let&#039;s see what a judge has to say about it.  What am I talking about, judges are just as corrupt as CPS and apparently the retirement center.  If you need somewhere to go, you can move in with me!  It might be a little crowded but I won&#039;t make you give up your beautiful granddaughter!  Seriously, there are thousands of parental rights advocates out there that will help you with this problem.  Visit my blog at cpsasystemoutofcontrol.blogspot.com on which I am placing this article right now for the world to see what they&#039;re doing to you.  You&#039;ll have more support than you ever dreamed about!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, is this for real?  Have they lost their minds?  Do you really think this beautiful little girl should be uprooted from the only safe, loving home she&#8217;s ever known and placed with strangers who are only going to take her in for the money???  How dare they do this to this couple.  If they&#8217;re more concerned with their precious &#8220;rules&#8221; than this &#8220;precious&#8221; child, then their priorities are totally screwed up and I hope they burn in hell.  Wake up, America!  We need to stand behind this couple and make sure this child does NOT go into the system.  Screw their rules.  This is a child!  Make them take them to court and let&#8217;s see what a judge has to say about it.  What am I talking about, judges are just as corrupt as CPS and apparently the retirement center.  If you need somewhere to go, you can move in with me!  It might be a little crowded but I won&#8217;t make you give up your beautiful granddaughter!  Seriously, there are thousands of parental rights advocates out there that will help you with this problem.  Visit my blog at cpsasystemoutofcontrol.blogspot.com on which I am placing this article right now for the world to see what they&#8217;re doing to you.  You&#8217;ll have more support than you ever dreamed about!</p>
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		<title>By: gquaglia</title>
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		<dc:creator>gquaglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the entire state of Florida was &quot;age restricted&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the entire state of Florida was &#8220;age restricted&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim--are you one of those old farts that yell &quot;You Kids--Get off my lawn?&quot;

Read the story again at the link: the grandparents bought the home, condo, or whatever, and are taking care of their grandchild by court order issued after they bought the home, because the daughter was not taking care of her. Because of the economy, they can&#039;t sell their home, though they&#039;re trying. The child may be put in foster care because the homeowners association won&#039;t bend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim&#8211;are you one of those old farts that yell &#8220;You Kids&#8211;Get off my lawn?&#8221;</p>
<p>Read the story again at the link: the grandparents bought the home, condo, or whatever, and are taking care of their grandchild by court order issued after they bought the home, because the daughter was not taking care of her. Because of the economy, they can&#8217;t sell their home, though they&#8217;re trying. The child may be put in foster care because the homeowners association won&#8217;t bend.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are creating an issue that shouldn&#039;t be an issue, either because someone gave them bad advice or because they don&#039;t understand what their options are.

They could close up/rent out the house and rent an efficiency somewhere nearby for the girl and the grandmother;  get other relatives to take the girl;  ask the state to find a suitable guardian for their situation.

This smells of someone not liking the HOA and wanting to make a &quot;case&quot; out of the situation.  Most of those incorporated HOAs are completely binding as long as they don&#039;t run afoul of state laws, and even then it&#039;s up to a judge to decide what applies.   The final answer is they signed the damned paperwork, they knew they shouldn&#039;t have the girl staying with them, they are in the wrong and should look at alternatives and stop moaning their story to every sobstory reporter they can find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are creating an issue that shouldn&#8217;t be an issue, either because someone gave them bad advice or because they don&#8217;t understand what their options are.</p>
<p>They could close up/rent out the house and rent an efficiency somewhere nearby for the girl and the grandmother;  get other relatives to take the girl;  ask the state to find a suitable guardian for their situation.</p>
<p>This smells of someone not liking the HOA and wanting to make a &#8220;case&#8221; out of the situation.  Most of those incorporated HOAs are completely binding as long as they don&#8217;t run afoul of state laws, and even then it&#8217;s up to a judge to decide what applies.   The final answer is they signed the damned paperwork, they knew they shouldn&#8217;t have the girl staying with them, they are in the wrong and should look at alternatives and stop moaning their story to every sobstory reporter they can find.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why I will never live in a neighborhood with a HOA.  I have seen these HOA&#039;s become little fiefdoms to cranky busybodies, who are too stupid to run for city government, but can get onto a HOA board and exercise power over someone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I will never live in a neighborhood with a HOA.  I have seen these HOA&#8217;s become little fiefdoms to cranky busybodies, who are too stupid to run for city government, but can get onto a HOA board and exercise power over someone else.</p>
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		<title>By: scotterotter</title>
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		<dc:creator>scotterotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing more stupid than HOA rules and apartment bylaws are those to complain about those rules after they sign the papers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing more stupid than HOA rules and apartment bylaws are those to complain about those rules after they sign the papers</p>
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		<title>By: locomotivebreath1901</title>
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		<dc:creator>locomotivebreath1901</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krykee. Not another panty-waist, tear jerk &quot;why can&#039;t the rules apply to everyone but (fill in the blank victim).&quot;

Huffy poo conveniently edited out a key part of this self-inflicted controversy: &quot;(there are) two older children who live with other relatives.&quot; Other relatives.

Now, the dead beat mother is a dope head and a loser BF magnet, so I commend the g&#039;parents for their effort, but HOA rules are pretty clear, strict and legally binding. It looks like g&#039;pa &amp; g&#039;ma picked the wrong community to buy a house.

Time to look up those &#039;other relatives&#039; for some temporary help till that home sells.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krykee. Not another panty-waist, tear jerk &#8220;why can&#8217;t the rules apply to everyone but (fill in the blank victim).&#8221;</p>
<p>Huffy poo conveniently edited out a key part of this self-inflicted controversy: &#8220;(there are) two older children who live with other relatives.&#8221; Other relatives.</p>
<p>Now, the dead beat mother is a dope head and a loser BF magnet, so I commend the g&#8217;parents for their effort, but HOA rules are pretty clear, strict and legally binding. It looks like g&#8217;pa &amp; g&#8217;ma picked the wrong community to buy a house.</p>
<p>Time to look up those &#8216;other relatives&#8217; for some temporary help till that home sells.</p>
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		<title>By: RTaylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>RTaylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about if it was 16 year old juvenile delinquent bringing his friends over and terrorizing the neighbors?  More than likely, this was the main idea in banning children.  How about if Mommy moved in with four kids?  People made a standard senior citizens HOA contract.  They want peace, quiet, and some security.  These are artificial communities, not like original small towns that looked out for, and depended on one another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about if it was 16 year old juvenile delinquent bringing his friends over and terrorizing the neighbors?  More than likely, this was the main idea in banning children.  How about if Mommy moved in with four kids?  People made a standard senior citizens HOA contract.  They want peace, quiet, and some security.  These are artificial communities, not like original small towns that looked out for, and depended on one another.</p>
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		<title>By: Alfred1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alfred1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet they are all liberal democrats from New York...just waiting to vote for Obama care...and then die.

But the plight of these grandparents is worthy of charitable relief...perhaps someone here who knows how to set up web sites...and another who knows the law...can set up an internet charity to help them move...

It wouldn&#039;t take much...they don&#039;t have to live in luxury...just a home where the kid can go to school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet they are all liberal democrats from New York&#8230;just waiting to vote for Obama care&#8230;and then die.</p>
<p>But the plight of these grandparents is worthy of charitable relief&#8230;perhaps someone here who knows how to set up web sites&#8230;and another who knows the law&#8230;can set up an internet charity to help them move&#8230;</p>
<p>It wouldn&#8217;t take much&#8230;they don&#8217;t have to live in luxury&#8230;just a home where the kid can go to school.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph, the Bus Driver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph, the Bus Driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18, GF,

But most do. 

The part I don&#039;t understand is how they may not be considered local government and be bound by the Constitution and State laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18, GF,</p>
<p>But most do. </p>
<p>The part I don&#8217;t understand is how they may not be considered local government and be bound by the Constitution and State laws.</p>
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