Comments on: Big Cellphone Makers Shifting to Android System http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/26/big-cellphone-makers-shifting-to-android-system/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: OvenMaster http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/26/big-cellphone-makers-shifting-to-android-system/comment-page-2/#comment-1594878 OvenMaster Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:29:45 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61119#comment-1594878 If M$ were smart, they'd plug phones with Windows Mobile on "Family Guy"! Perfect demographics! :D If M$ were smart, they’d plug phones with Windows Mobile on “Family Guy”! Perfect demographics! :D

]]> By: tspiel http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/26/big-cellphone-makers-shifting-to-android-system/comment-page-2/#comment-1594774 tspiel Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:26:49 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61119#comment-1594774 Where RIM doesn't do very is with their web browser. For us at least that matters a lot. It took very few tweaks to get our ajax empowered web app to work well on an iPhone. Blackberry? It would require a separate development effort. Oh, and this is a serious business app. Not some Mickey Mouse thing. Where RIM doesn’t do very is with their web browser. For us at least that matters a lot. It took very few tweaks to get our ajax empowered web app to work well on an iPhone. Blackberry? It would require a separate development effort.

Oh, and this is a serious business app. Not some Mickey Mouse thing.

]]> By: Luc http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/26/big-cellphone-makers-shifting-to-android-system/comment-page-2/#comment-1594708 Luc Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:15:25 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61119#comment-1594708 RIM is doing well because: 1) They conquered the corporate territory with excellent security and level of control that sys admins have with their BES solution. 2) Their email solution still is second to none. Some people, like Leo Laporte, jump on fads at the drop of a hat and go around saying that "email is dead." But many other people realize that it is very far from dead. E-mail is the largest and most useful social network there's ever been. EVERYONE is in it. There is actually very little that other phones can do that the Blackberry can't, and most of it doesn't matter. RIM specialized in things that matter: email, security and IT dept empowerment. It's just a matter of catering. Many people want serious. Many people want Mickey Mouse. RIM picked the serious. Apple picked the Mickey Mouse. RIM is doing well because:
1) They conquered the corporate territory with excellent security and level of control that sys admins have with their BES solution.
2) Their email solution still is second to none. Some people, like Leo Laporte, jump on fads at the drop of a hat and go around saying that “email is dead.” But many other people realize that it is very far from dead. E-mail is the largest and most useful social network there’s ever been. EVERYONE is in it. There is actually very little that other phones can do that the Blackberry can’t, and most of it doesn’t matter. RIM specialized in things that matter: email, security and IT dept empowerment.

It’s just a matter of catering. Many people want serious. Many people want Mickey Mouse. RIM picked the serious. Apple picked the Mickey Mouse.

]]> By: gquaglia http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/26/big-cellphone-makers-shifting-to-android-system/comment-page-2/#comment-1594533 gquaglia Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:17:49 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61119#comment-1594533 <blockquote>From my view Rim is the one to beat. </blockquote> The only reason RIM is doing well now is there is a big demand for smartphone and unless you are on ATT, the BB looks attractive. This will end when consumers see that Android does far more then BB ever will.

From my view Rim is the one to beat.

The only reason RIM is doing well now is there is a big demand for smartphone and unless you are on ATT, the BB looks attractive. This will end when consumers see that Android does far more then BB ever will.

]]> By: deowll http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/26/big-cellphone-makers-shifting-to-android-system/comment-page-2/#comment-1594515 deowll Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:58:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61119#comment-1594515 #11 Even Ballmar agrees they got fat and lazy and now they are playing catchup slowly. From my view Rim is the one to beat. I just want a nice little computer with a key board that fits in my pocket, can make calls, take pictures/video, play music and videos, run office files, do email, and has built in gps. Is that to much to ask? Not the way things are going. #11 Even Ballmar agrees they got fat and lazy and now they are playing catchup slowly.

From my view Rim is the one to beat.

I just want a nice little computer with a key board that fits in my pocket, can make calls, take pictures/video, play music and videos, run office files, do email, and has built in gps.

Is that to much to ask? Not the way things are going.

]]> By: Sai Kai Lee http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/26/big-cellphone-makers-shifting-to-android-system/comment-page-2/#comment-1594503 Sai Kai Lee Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:13:00 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61119#comment-1594503 #15 & #20 One of the great things about Android is that "compiled" apps will work on any Android enabled hardware. The manufacturers have to do the work of getting Android running on their device, but after that, any Android app should work fine. That's the beauty of managed code. What's not to like about Android? It's free, it's open, and it's evolving quickly. Some people worry about the platform fracturing, but I'm not sure it will ever actually become a problem. Just have to wait and see what will happen in 2010. I for one, am quite sanguine. SKL #15 & #20

One of the great things about Android is that “compiled” apps will work on any Android enabled hardware. The manufacturers have to do the work of getting Android running on their device, but after that, any Android app should work fine. That’s the beauty of managed code.

What’s not to like about Android? It’s free, it’s open, and it’s evolving quickly. Some people worry about the platform fracturing, but I’m not sure it will ever actually become a problem.

Just have to wait and see what will happen in 2010. I for one, am quite sanguine.

SKL

]]> By: faustus http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/26/big-cellphone-makers-shifting-to-android-system/comment-page-2/#comment-1594495 faustus Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:43:39 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61119#comment-1594495 google supports open source projects like operating systems, but only if it suits what they are doing of course... browsers, online applications... all good... but they're projects that target their competitors... open source the search engine... adsense... then i will say they support "open source". the devil you know is sometimes better than the devil you don't. google supports open source projects like operating systems, but only if it suits what they are doing of course… browsers, online applications… all good… but they’re projects that target their competitors… open source the search engine… adsense… then i will say they support “open source”. the devil you know is sometimes better than the devil you don’t.

]]> By: zorkor http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/26/big-cellphone-makers-shifting-to-android-system/comment-page-2/#comment-1594490 zorkor Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:24:43 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61119#comment-1594490 Since Windows 7 is almost a big hit for Microsoft. Windows Mobile 7 is just around the corner and Microsoft is looking for another lucky number 7 here. Keeping fingers crossed. As for Android, never seen it take off as much as Google had anticipated. It still seems like a naked Mobile OS with lack of application and horrible hardware. Needs a little more exciting hardware and software to make it a hit as just giving it away for free is not enough. Learn from Linux, as they have boasted FREE FREE all their lives but a normal user still never buys into their FREE crap. Since Windows 7 is almost a big hit for Microsoft. Windows Mobile 7 is just around the corner and Microsoft is looking for another lucky number 7 here. Keeping fingers crossed.

As for Android, never seen it take off as much as Google had anticipated. It still seems like a naked Mobile OS with lack of application and horrible hardware. Needs a little more exciting hardware and software to make it a hit as just giving it away for free is not enough. Learn from Linux, as they have boasted FREE FREE all their lives but a normal user still never buys into their FREE crap.

]]> By: qb http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/26/big-cellphone-makers-shifting-to-android-system/comment-page-2/#comment-1594456 qb Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:12:39 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61119#comment-1594456 @honeyman, my observations (purely anecdotal) are that the developers view handset support this way: 1. iPhone 2. Android 3. Blackberry (Oh God, only if I have to) 4. Who cares? The webOS from Palm has generated some interest, but I don't know anyone who supports it yet. Symbian (pick your flavor), WinMo, LinMo, and others just aren't worth the trouble. @honeyman, my observations (purely anecdotal) are that the developers view handset support this way:

1. iPhone
2. Android
3. Blackberry (Oh God, only if I have to)
4. Who cares?

The webOS from Palm has generated some interest, but I don’t know anyone who supports it yet. Symbian (pick your flavor), WinMo, LinMo, and others just aren’t worth the trouble.

]]> By: qb http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/26/big-cellphone-makers-shifting-to-android-system/comment-page-1/#comment-1594454 qb Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:04:29 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61119#comment-1594454 @sargasso, que pasa? Why do developers need to compile a different version of their application for each handset (unless they do the native thing, which is rare)? As for screen differences, it's straightforward to make them resolution-independent. I've written apps that run HTC, Samsung, and Motorola handsets without any changes. Am I missing something? @sargasso, que pasa? Why do developers need to compile a different version of their application for each handset (unless they do the native thing, which is rare)? As for screen differences, it’s straightforward to make them resolution-independent.

I’ve written apps that run HTC, Samsung, and Motorola handsets without any changes. Am I missing something?

]]> By: honeyman http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/26/big-cellphone-makers-shifting-to-android-system/comment-page-1/#comment-1594453 honeyman Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:56:05 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61119#comment-1594453 For me, the big issue with smart phones going into the future is applications. Changing the OS is one thing, and not an unimportant thing, but getting developers on board like Apple have done is no mean feat and so far the iPhone is the only platform with massive developer support. Will Google be able to get the devs on board in a way that rivals Apple? Microsoft have clearly lost the plot with WinMob and I would be surprised if the damage isn't terminal. For me, the big issue with smart phones going into the future is applications. Changing the OS is one thing, and not an unimportant thing, but getting developers on board like Apple have done is no mean feat and so far the iPhone is the only platform with massive developer support. Will Google be able to get the devs on board in a way that rivals Apple?

Microsoft have clearly lost the plot with WinMob and I would be surprised if the damage isn’t terminal.

]]> By: qb http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/26/big-cellphone-makers-shifting-to-android-system/comment-page-1/#comment-1594438 qb Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:31:35 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61119#comment-1594438 @Improbus, it's not just you. He completely lost me as well. @Improbus, it’s not just you. He completely lost me as well.

]]> By: Improbus http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/26/big-cellphone-makers-shifting-to-android-system/comment-page-1/#comment-1594435 Improbus Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:23:52 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61119#comment-1594435 @faustus <i>open sources their competitors</i> What the hell does that mean? Are you so angry at Google that you can't type strait? @faustus

open sources their competitors

What the hell does that mean? Are you so angry at Google that you can’t type strait?

]]> By: faustus http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/26/big-cellphone-makers-shifting-to-android-system/comment-page-1/#comment-1594425 faustus Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:56:39 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61119#comment-1594425 i love how google doesn't open source their software, their real software that pays the bills, but open sources their competitors... and still keeps the tag " oh we are such a great company because we give back to the community..." ya right. i guess in some ways they do but they are as full of shit as the rest... they are going to be a bigger problem down the road than microsoft ever thought of being in the pdiddy pc days... mark my words.......... i love how google doesn’t open source their software, their real software that pays the bills, but open sources their competitors… and still keeps the tag ” oh we are such a great company because we give back to the community…” ya right. i guess in some ways they do but they are as full of shit as the rest… they are going to be a bigger problem down the road than microsoft ever thought of being in the pdiddy pc days… mark my words……….

]]> By: sargasso http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/10/26/big-cellphone-makers-shifting-to-android-system/comment-page-1/#comment-1594419 sargasso Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:31:55 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61119#comment-1594419 Android needs to be custom made for each handset. Developers are having to compile different versions of Android applications for each manufacturer and model. It's all turning very bad, very quickly. Android needs to be custom made for each handset. Developers are having to compile different versions of Android applications for each manufacturer and model. It’s all turning very bad, very quickly.

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