Ugandan clergy says : Jail gays, dont hang them

Published on October 29th, 2009

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Clergy: Jail gays, don’t hang them – Daily Monitor

Homosexuals should not be killed but instead imprisoned for life, religious leaders have suggested.

Making their input in the Anti-homosexuality Bill 2009 yesterday, the clergy said the clause on death as a penalty for homosexuality be scrapped.

“If you kill the people, to whom will the message go? We need to have imprisonment for life if the person is still alive,” said Rev. Canon Aaron Mwesigye, the provincial secretary of the Church of Uganda.

The group, which also comprised Dr Joseph Kakembo of the Seventh Day Adventist church, Dr Joseph Sserwadda, the head of Pentecostal churches, Prof. Peter Matovu, the Orthodox vicar general of the Orthodox and Sheikh Ali Mohammed, representing the mufti, however, made it clear that they support the Bill, because “homosexuality is an evil and is anti-godly”.

Good grief. This is progress? What a bunch of hypocritical idiots. What would Jesus have thought of this?

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# 1 StoopidFlanders said, on October 29th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

Throwing them in jail will give them plenty of time to read the Bible. Will there be a chance of parole should they manage to pray out the gay?

# 2 Misanthropic Scott said, on October 29th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

I’m not going to listen to clergy here; why would I listen to Ugandan clergy? These are the same people who think there’s an invisible man in the sky watching everything we do.

http://tinyurl.com/d7cfr2

# 3 hhopper said, on October 29th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

Ain’t religion great!

# 4 Hatman said, on October 29th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

Because nothing gay ever goes on in prisons…

# 5 Sister Mary Hand Grenade of Quiet Reflection said, on October 29th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

Nah, hang them. I recall a contingent of gays came to see the pope and ask for absolution. He told them, “get away from me, you have dick on your breath,”

# 6 hhopper said, on October 29th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

Is this a true story Sister MHGOQR?

# 7 SparkyOne said, on October 29th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

which pope recognized that order, or do they all?

# 8 butracistisok said, on October 29th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

Maroon =

a fugitive black slave of the West Indies and Guiana in the 17th and 18th centuries; also : a descendant of such a slave

[Really? I was quoting Bugs Bunny - ed.]

# 9 Sister Mary Hand Grenade of Quiet Reflection said, on October 29th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

#6 – Please don’t be so gullible. Did you ever listen to Sam Kinison? He was actually a baptist minister before he lost religion. Tongue planted firmly in cheek there Hopper!

# 10 Dallas said, on October 29th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

Well, it is an improvement I must say.

Uganda is a backwards country so it’s logical their religious leaders are equally backwards.
I venture they’re slightly behind the Christian leaders in Mississippi.

# 11 queer said, on October 29th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

stoopidflanders

I’ve a better idea. why not jail the christians instead cos then they will have plenty of time to read origin of the species and mend thier ways.

# 12 bobbo, not that there is anything wrong with it said, on October 29th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

but this demonstrates the very real “evil” that is religion. Humans don’t separate the sin from the sinner and every human knows that. How many gays around the world are killed/injured/tormented for simply being human? And that behavior IS reinforced/supported/instigated by the more “enlightened” teachings of protestant and catholic dogma. Don’t know about the Jews==any help there, who knows?

“The bibble is our only source of morality”==you hear that all the time, yet if morality didn’t spring from other sources, how would we all actually judge most of the bibble’s morality to be “wrong”/out of time?

Religion–something all good people will avoid.

# 13 Alfred1 said, on October 29th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

While Jesus didn’t address the subject per se, His apostles did:

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
(1Co 6:9-11 KJV)

Its clear Jesus would expect gays to repent, just as He expects heterosexual fornicators to repent, or drunks, extortioners, revilers…etc.

Observe Paul said many Christians were once’s homosexuals…

Christ ate and drank at the houses of sinners…He didn’t behave as though He is holier than others…but He is:

11 And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?
12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
(Mat 9:11-13 KJV)

So Christ would befriend gays…and not withhold from them they must repent, or perish…just like everyone here at DU must…

# 14 Alfred1 said, on October 29th, 2009 at 5:08 pm

#13b

2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
(Luk 13:2-5 KJV)

# 15 JimR said, on October 29th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

Nay finally replied: “Except upon whom unto them ye shall not withhold above all, ye repent and slew but they below all men suffer effeminate, nor abusers that dwelt in sanctified fornicators.”

# 16 qb said, on October 29th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

Jesus was a 30 year old unmarried man, who lived with his mother, and hung out in hooker bars. Maybe he was light on his sandals?

# 17 gal416 said, on October 29th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

Jesus might say; If you’re gay and live in Uganda, you might want to rethink your lifestyle.

# 18 pedro said, on October 29th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

How creative! They go to the corporate world, copy the “bullshit bingo” and make it an anti-gay prop.

#6 Sounds like it.

#10 But I thought god loved gays!

#11 Because it has been done already, whereas doing it to gays is fierce and nouveau.

# 19 Dallas said, on October 30th, 2009 at 4:01 am

#13

Ye is one strange piece of work.

# 20 Dr Dodd said, on October 30th, 2009 at 5:13 am

#16 Queer Boy-Jesus was a 30 year old unmarried man, who lived with his mother, and hung out in hooker bars. Maybe he was light on his sandals?

Oh, I get it, the old I have a friend…

Now, don’t you feel better that you were able come clean about yourself.

# 21 Phydeau said, on October 30th, 2009 at 6:11 am

Nah, hang them. I recall a contingent of gays came to see the pope and ask for absolution. He told them, “get away from me, you have dick on your breath,”

How did the pope know that smell?

But seriously folks, I’d have more respect for the anti-gay Christians if they came down on divorce as hard as they do on homosexuality. I mean, Jesus actually condemned divorce; he didn’t condemn homosexuality.

But banning divorce would be inconvenient for the bible thumpers. Having to actually live by their own religion is too much for them. It’s far more easy and fun to condemn other people.

# 22 Glass Half Full said, on October 30th, 2009 at 6:27 am

Wow. Crazy folks. If it’s not the Jews, gypsies, blacks, Irish, Tutsis, Huto, it’s the gays. If we can only stop “THEM”…then our lives will be fine. It’s obvious that “THEY” are responsible for our ills and our problems. I mean it’s surely not US….we don’t have a problem…it’s “THEM”! We all know it! So let’s get together and stop “THEM” and protect our way of life!

# 23 Dallas said, on October 30th, 2009 at 7:20 am

#22 Good point but you miss the whole objective of why there is “we” versus “them”.

Power and control over people is always grounded on some form of fear, uncertainty and hence blame.

There MUST be an evil somewhere !!

# 24 pedro said, on October 30th, 2009 at 7:23 am

#21 Do you know about a guy named Henry and another one called Martin? Just curious. Can you tell me how long took the Catholic church to acknowledge divorce? And even if you get divorced, you cannot get married again by the church.

While you’re at it, check what an annulment is and which are the grounds for it, just so you get an idea on how easy it is.

Uninformed people are so funny…

# 25 qb said, on October 30th, 2009 at 7:51 am

@Dallas

It’s the culture of blame. It shifts over time but still takes generations to improve. It’s not a liberal or conservative thing, but when it’s mixed with extremists (religious, political, cultural, etc) it gets very ugly.

# 26 Dallas said, on October 30th, 2009 at 9:24 am

#25 Pfft. I believe it is more than a simple culture of blame answer and assume your point to imply some temporary or some passing phase.

Hate is a byproduct of fear. Fear is a tool of oppressors. Religious factions are classic oppressing entities that assert rule over their sheep by way of fear. Example – the whole point of Christianity is the perpetual war of heaven versus hell, good vs evil!

For sheep to fall in line, you need to associate something less ambiguous than “evil” and use people. See examples:

Christian church Gays and lots more
Hitler Jews
Bush terrorism, muslims
KKK Blacks, Jews, Gas
GOP fear of: change, communism, sex, marriage, gays, immigrants, TV, internet, blacks, clowns, polar bears, …

# 27 pedro said, on October 30th, 2009 at 9:47 am

#26 Hate is also a byproduct of knowing your enemy too well. Always with a partialized view of things.

# 28 josi said, on October 30th, 2009 at 9:53 am

# 10 Change every “Uganda” with “USA” and what you say is what the rest of the world thinks. Most comments here (from americans) shows that you are all a bunch of religious fundamentalists. By the way, nothing against gays as long as they stay away from me

# 29 JakeH. said, on November 9th, 2009 at 12:21 pm

Are not the Christians killing those in the middle east who want to terrorize and mandate death to the “infidels?” I am troubled that the crimes of Muslims are almost undistinguishable from the lustfull goals of western religious radials (the far-right “Christians” from America that got this bill rolling).

PS: I also find it a bit humerous that some support was gained for this bill by claiming homosexuals caused the holocaust. Absurd as that is (I bet they’ll blame the Jews next …), it does not seem that the leaders in Uganda think a holocaust is undeserving of certain people anyway (a group the Nazis rounded up and killed as well).

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