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	<title>Comments on: Ugandan clergy says : Jail gays, dont hang them</title>
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		<title>By: JakeH.</title>
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		<dc:creator>JakeH.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are not the Christians killing those in the middle east who want to terrorize and mandate death to the &quot;infidels?&quot; I am troubled that the crimes of Muslims are almost undistinguishable from the lustfull goals of western religious radials (the far-right &quot;Christians&quot; from America that got this bill rolling).


PS: I also find it a bit humerous that some support was gained for this bill by claiming homosexuals caused the holocaust. Absurd as that is (I bet they&#039;ll blame the Jews next ...), it does not seem that the leaders in Uganda think a holocaust is undeserving of certain people anyway (a group the Nazis rounded up and killed as well).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are not the Christians killing those in the middle east who want to terrorize and mandate death to the &#8220;infidels?&#8221; I am troubled that the crimes of Muslims are almost undistinguishable from the lustfull goals of western religious radials (the far-right &#8220;Christians&#8221; from America that got this bill rolling).</p>
<p>PS: I also find it a bit humerous that some support was gained for this bill by claiming homosexuals caused the holocaust. Absurd as that is (I bet they&#8217;ll blame the Jews next &#8230;), it does not seem that the leaders in Uganda think a holocaust is undeserving of certain people anyway (a group the Nazis rounded up and killed as well).</p>
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		<title>By: josi</title>
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		<dc:creator>josi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 10 Change every &quot;Uganda&quot; with &quot;USA&quot; and what you say is what the rest of the world thinks. Most comments here (from americans) shows that you are all a bunch of religious fundamentalists. By the way, nothing against gays as long as they stay away from me :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 10 Change every &#8220;Uganda&#8221; with &#8220;USA&#8221; and what you say is what the rest of the world thinks. Most comments here (from americans) shows that you are all a bunch of religious fundamentalists. By the way, nothing against gays as long as they stay away from me <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26 Hate is also a byproduct of knowing your enemy too well. Always with a partialized view of things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26 Hate is also a byproduct of knowing your enemy too well. Always with a partialized view of things.</p>
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		<title>By: Dallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25 Pfft. I believe it is more than a simple culture of blame answer and assume your point to imply some temporary or some passing phase.

Hate is a byproduct of fear.  Fear is a tool of oppressors.   Religious factions are classic oppressing entities that assert rule over their sheep by way of fear.   Example -  the whole point of Christianity is the perpetual war of heaven versus hell, good vs evil!  

For sheep to fall in line, you need to associate something less ambiguous than &quot;evil&quot; and use people.  See examples:

Christian church   Gays and lots more
Hitler  Jews
Bush  terrorism, muslims
KKK  Blacks, Jews, Gas
GOP  fear of: change, communism, sex, marriage, gays, immigrants, TV, internet, blacks, clowns, polar bears, ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25 Pfft. I believe it is more than a simple culture of blame answer and assume your point to imply some temporary or some passing phase.</p>
<p>Hate is a byproduct of fear.  Fear is a tool of oppressors.   Religious factions are classic oppressing entities that assert rule over their sheep by way of fear.   Example &#8211;  the whole point of Christianity is the perpetual war of heaven versus hell, good vs evil!  </p>
<p>For sheep to fall in line, you need to associate something less ambiguous than &#8220;evil&#8221; and use people.  See examples:</p>
<p>Christian church   Gays and lots more<br />
Hitler  Jews<br />
Bush  terrorism, muslims<br />
KKK  Blacks, Jews, Gas<br />
GOP  fear of: change, communism, sex, marriage, gays, immigrants, TV, internet, blacks, clowns, polar bears, &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: qb</title>
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		<dc:creator>qb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dallas

It&#039;s the culture of blame. It shifts over time but still takes generations to improve. It&#039;s not a liberal or conservative thing, but when it&#039;s mixed with extremists (religious, political, cultural, etc) it gets very ugly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dallas</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the culture of blame. It shifts over time but still takes generations to improve. It&#8217;s not a liberal or conservative thing, but when it&#8217;s mixed with extremists (religious, political, cultural, etc) it gets very ugly.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21 Do you know about a guy named Henry and another one called Martin? Just curious. Can you tell me how long took the Catholic church to acknowledge divorce? And even if you get divorced, you cannot get married again by the church. 

While you&#039;re at it, check what an annulment is and which are the grounds for it, just so you get an idea on how easy it is.

Uninformed people are so funny...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21 Do you know about a guy named Henry and another one called Martin? Just curious. Can you tell me how long took the Catholic church to acknowledge divorce? And even if you get divorced, you cannot get married again by the church. </p>
<p>While you&#8217;re at it, check what an annulment is and which are the grounds for it, just so you get an idea on how easy it is.</p>
<p>Uninformed people are so funny&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#22 Good point but you miss the whole objective of why there is &quot;we&quot; versus &quot;them&quot;.

Power and control over people is always grounded on some form of fear, uncertainty and hence blame.

There MUST be an evil somewhere !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#22 Good point but you miss the whole objective of why there is &#8220;we&#8221; versus &#8220;them&#8221;.</p>
<p>Power and control over people is always grounded on some form of fear, uncertainty and hence blame.</p>
<p>There MUST be an evil somewhere !!</p>
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		<title>By: Glass Half Full</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glass Half Full</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Crazy folks.  If it&#039;s not the Jews, gypsies, blacks, Irish, Tutsis, Huto, it&#039;s the gays.  If we can only stop &quot;THEM&quot;...then our lives will be fine.  It&#039;s obvious that &quot;THEY&quot; are responsible for our ills and our problems.  I mean it&#039;s surely not US....we don&#039;t have a problem...it&#039;s &quot;THEM&quot;!  We all know it!  So let&#039;s get together and stop &quot;THEM&quot; and protect our way of life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Crazy folks.  If it&#8217;s not the Jews, gypsies, blacks, Irish, Tutsis, Huto, it&#8217;s the gays.  If we can only stop &#8220;THEM&#8221;&#8230;then our lives will be fine.  It&#8217;s obvious that &#8220;THEY&#8221; are responsible for our ills and our problems.  I mean it&#8217;s surely not US&#8230;.we don&#8217;t have a problem&#8230;it&#8217;s &#8220;THEM&#8221;!  We all know it!  So let&#8217;s get together and stop &#8220;THEM&#8221; and protect our way of life!</p>
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		<title>By: Phydeau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phydeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Nah, hang them. I recall a contingent of gays came to see the pope and ask for absolution. He told them, “get away from me, you have dick on your breath,”&lt;/i&gt;

How did the pope know that smell?  ;)

But seriously folks, I&#039;d have more respect for the anti-gay Christians if they came down on divorce as hard as they do on homosexuality.  I mean, Jesus actually condemned divorce; he didn&#039;t condemn homosexuality.

But banning divorce would be inconvenient for the bible thumpers.  Having to actually live by their own religion is too much for them.  It&#039;s far more easy and fun to condemn &lt;i&gt;other&lt;/i&gt; people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Nah, hang them. I recall a contingent of gays came to see the pope and ask for absolution. He told them, “get away from me, you have dick on your breath,”</i></p>
<p>How did the pope know that smell?  <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But seriously folks, I&#8217;d have more respect for the anti-gay Christians if they came down on divorce as hard as they do on homosexuality.  I mean, Jesus actually condemned divorce; he didn&#8217;t condemn homosexuality.</p>
<p>But banning divorce would be inconvenient for the bible thumpers.  Having to actually live by their own religion is too much for them.  It&#8217;s far more easy and fun to condemn <i>other</i> people.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Dodd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Dodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16 Queer Boy-Jesus was a 30 year old unmarried man, who lived with his mother, and hung out in hooker bars. Maybe he was light on his sandals?

Oh, I get it, the old I have a friend...

Now, don&#039;t you feel better that you were able come clean about yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16 Queer Boy-Jesus was a 30 year old unmarried man, who lived with his mother, and hung out in hooker bars. Maybe he was light on his sandals?</p>
<p>Oh, I get it, the old I have a friend&#8230;</p>
<p>Now, don&#8217;t you feel better that you were able come clean about yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Dallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13

Ye is one strange piece of work.</description>
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<p>Ye is one strange piece of work.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How creative! They go to the corporate world, copy the &quot;bullshit bingo&quot; and make it an anti-gay prop.

#6 Sounds like it.

#10 But I thought god loved gays!

#11 Because it has been done already, whereas doing it to gays is fierce and nouveau.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How creative! They go to the corporate world, copy the &#8220;bullshit bingo&#8221; and make it an anti-gay prop.</p>
<p>#6 Sounds like it.</p>
<p>#10 But I thought god loved gays!</p>
<p>#11 Because it has been done already, whereas doing it to gays is fierce and nouveau.</p>
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		<title>By: gal416</title>
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		<dc:creator>gal416</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus might say; If you&#039;re gay and live in Uganda, you might want to rethink your lifestyle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus might say; If you&#8217;re gay and live in Uganda, you might want to rethink your lifestyle.</p>
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		<title>By: qb</title>
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		<dc:creator>qb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus was a 30 year old unmarried man, who lived with his mother, and hung out in hooker bars. Maybe he was light on his sandals?</description>
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		<title>By: JimR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nay finally replied: &quot;Except upon whom unto them ye shall not withhold above all, ye repent and slew but they below all men suffer effeminate, nor abusers that dwelt in sanctified fornicators.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nay finally replied: &#8220;Except upon whom unto them ye shall not withhold above all, ye repent and slew but they below all men suffer effeminate, nor abusers that dwelt in sanctified fornicators.&#8221;</p>
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