Comments on: Human rights lawyer alleges CIA kept detainees alive to keep torturing them

By: Hmeyers

Hmeyers — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 05:13:08 +0000

I think the CIA did the responsible thing by keeping them alive.

They are saving lives and that’s what matters!

By: Special Ed

Special Ed — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:50:37 +0000

I have been tortured. I waited in line at a Division of Motor Vehicles. I’ve had my car slammed in the rear by a car load of Julios with no insurance. I listened to rap music in a rental car for an extended period before I realized it. I have answered the door to Jehovah’s Witness. In every case, I would have preferred to be water boarded or worse yet, have a conversation with Alfred.

By: Dr Dodd

Dr Dodd — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:44:24 +0000

Why torture when you can just splatter a terrorist’s brain all over the battlefield.

No muss, no fuss, no gitmo

OK, you loose the whining from the left, but sacrifices must be made.

By: Dallas

Dallas — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:19:04 +0000

Someone please decode Pedro’s rationalization of torture by America by referencing Castro. I think he is implying Castro tortures so it’s ok?

I can’t find a gibberish to English translation on google.

By: pedro

pedro — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:03:30 +0000

#22 But of course I do. Why else do you think I’m registering as a demagogue? I wanna be amongst the first to bring down that unfair blockade against the peaceful castro monarchy, right next to fatso Moore.

By: Phydeau

Phydeau — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:55:54 +0000

#20 What’s the matter pedrito, afraid to say what you really think? Afraid to say you like torture?

#21 Thank you Chris, that point needs to be made over and over. Torturing to get intel DOESN’T WORK.

By: chris

chris — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:41:43 +0000

Anyone interested in gathering intelligence from war prisoners should read the book “Slow Burn” by Orrin DeForest. He was a CIA supervisor in one of the most violent districts in Vietnam during the war. His methods were effective and didn’t include torture.

ARVN soldiers just beat the piss out prisoners and got nothing. By keeping prisoners isolated from one another and cross checking their information DeForest was able to get proper intel.

His interrogation facilities were more like secured hotels than prisons. Although he was able to pacify the district using intelligence in this way the war was essentially over at that point, so the experiment was moot.

By: pedro

pedro — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:32:28 +0000

#17 Again, if you want torture apologist, look no further than your own Demagogue party. cuba has been torturing and killing people way before dumbya (and now your dearly beloved Obama) and all I hear is “we should lift the embargo”.

That and a stoopid fatso saying healthcare is better there than in the US.

By: sargasso

sargasso — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:50:34 +0000

I have to say, good old American hospitality has really taken a downturn.

By: Phydeau

Phydeau — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:49:28 +0000

Ya know, wingnuts, we made it through the Cold War, the time of greatest peril to the United States, without resorting to torture. Your hero Ronnie signed a treaty banning torture.

And now we have a band of scruffy fanatics hiding in caves in Pakistan who pulled off one big terrorist act, and you wingnuts are ready to throw away your civil liberties and rights and all that makes America great, for the illusion of a little security.

What a bunch of cowardly pussies you wingnuts are.

By: Phydeau

Phydeau — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:33:10 +0000

#16 Still waiting, pedrito. Still waiting for torture apologists to give us any evidence that torturing people has helped protect us from terrorists.

Still waiting…

By: pedro

pedro — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:28:17 +0000

#13 If by torture apologist you’re calling the Demagogues who are calling for the end of the embargo to the cuban monarchy, then you’re correct. Hypocrite.

#14 I missed the part that if it was bad in the US, it was good for cuba. You lost me there.

#15 Keep on telling us that it’s good if your team does it (or its friends) but bad if we think the other team does it. And again, good thing Obama shut that guantanamo thing down.

By: Dallas

Dallas — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:21:00 +0000

#12 Abuelo… the “it’s been done before so what’s the problem” excuse is getting long in the tooth. You need new material.

Are you ding dongs giving up your usual moral high ground fantasy for good or just putting it on hold?

You’re starting to look like cafeteria Catholics!

By: Phydeau

Phydeau — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:57:04 +0000

#12 So wingnuts are OK with the U.S. being lumped in with petty dictatorships. I think we as a nation are better than that. But wingnuts always have been on the bloodthirsty side, so no surprise.

By: Phydeau

Phydeau — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:54:45 +0000

You torture apologists can rant until you’re blue in the face that torturing people saved lives, but you have not one shred of evidence. What’s that? The torturers can’t tell us exactly what it was because it’s too secret. Oh really. How convenient.

I call BS. And now our reputation is in the shitter partly because of torture. Way to go guys.