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	<title>Comments on: Public school kids are getting swine flu vaccines without parents&#8217; OK</title>
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		<title>By: deowll</title>
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		<dc:creator>deowll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You expected everything to go perfectly? Seriously?</description>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/02/public-school-kids-are-getting-swine-flu-vaccines-without-parents-ok/comment-page-2/#comment-1596980</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dvorak.org king of misleading titles. Nobody cares about 3 kids accidentally getting a vaccine, but make it sound like a government conspiracy and the readers are hooked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dvorak.org king of misleading titles. Nobody cares about 3 kids accidentally getting a vaccine, but make it sound like a government conspiracy and the readers are hooked.</p>
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		<title>By: ho booooo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/02/public-school-kids-are-getting-swine-flu-vaccines-without-parents-ok/comment-page-2/#comment-1596919</link>
		<dc:creator>ho booooo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOu want to know why the media is hyping it up...look up the name..

THOMAS GLOCER...he is the director of Reuters and Dirctor of MERCK...

any more questions..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOu want to know why the media is hyping it up&#8230;look up the name..</p>
<p>THOMAS GLOCER&#8230;he is the director of Reuters and Dirctor of MERCK&#8230;</p>
<p>any more questions..</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron_W</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/02/public-school-kids-are-getting-swine-flu-vaccines-without-parents-ok/comment-page-2/#comment-1596873</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron_W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21 why would it matter if other kids weren&#039;t vaccinated since yours is?  Or do you just want a quick lawsuit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21 why would it matter if other kids weren&#8217;t vaccinated since yours is?  Or do you just want a quick lawsuit?</p>
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		<title>By: hhopper</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/02/public-school-kids-are-getting-swine-flu-vaccines-without-parents-ok/comment-page-2/#comment-1596847</link>
		<dc:creator>hhopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The H1N1 vaccine is produced in the identical manner as the normal flu shot... a bunch of hoopla about nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The H1N1 vaccine is produced in the identical manner as the normal flu shot&#8230; a bunch of hoopla about nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Diesel</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/02/public-school-kids-are-getting-swine-flu-vaccines-without-parents-ok/comment-page-2/#comment-1596841</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Diesel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take 50,000 IU of Vitamin D once a week and stop worrying about either flu and it&#039;s a shitload safer than anything the doc is going to stick in your arm or up your nose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take 50,000 IU of Vitamin D once a week and stop worrying about either flu and it&#8217;s a shitload safer than anything the doc is going to stick in your arm or up your nose.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/02/public-school-kids-are-getting-swine-flu-vaccines-without-parents-ok/comment-page-2/#comment-1596840</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21 Wow, how well informed. Now go run and get vaccinated. I&#039;ll wait here &#039;til you get the flu from it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21 Wow, how well informed. Now go run and get vaccinated. I&#8217;ll wait here &#8217;til you get the flu from it</p>
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		<title>By: spsffan</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/02/public-school-kids-are-getting-swine-flu-vaccines-without-parents-ok/comment-page-2/#comment-1596838</link>
		<dc:creator>spsffan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez! We&#039;ve known about vaccines and how they work and the millions of lives they have saved over the past what? 100 years. Get a clue or go back to bloodletting and spells for medicine and let the rest of us make use of modern science. 

And we still have ignorant Fox News fed know-it-alls telling people lies. 

If I had children in school, I&#039;d sue any school that didn&#039;t insist that every child be vaccinated for endangering my child. While most people, including children just have a normal bout with the flu if they get it, this virus is killing children at a much, much higher rate than regular flu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez! We&#8217;ve known about vaccines and how they work and the millions of lives they have saved over the past what? 100 years. Get a clue or go back to bloodletting and spells for medicine and let the rest of us make use of modern science. </p>
<p>And we still have ignorant Fox News fed know-it-alls telling people lies. </p>
<p>If I had children in school, I&#8217;d sue any school that didn&#8217;t insist that every child be vaccinated for endangering my child. While most people, including children just have a normal bout with the flu if they get it, this virus is killing children at a much, much higher rate than regular flu.</p>
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		<title>By: JimR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red Hats, (sorry just picking an easy target... nothing personal)

Would you wear a seat belt, if it weren&#039;t legislated?
Would you buckle your baby into a safety seat?
Do you ever find a list of dangerous ingredients useful?
There are thousands more of the same type of government (everyone) interventions that protect you and those you are responsible for.

The chances of being a victim by not using those things is small, just as compared to dying from H1N1. The reason that everyone has to follow those rules is just common sense and for anyone who has to deal with, or is negatively affected by your negligence, if you chose not to be intelligent about such things. 

Risk comparisons are irrelevant when overall safety is so easily achieved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Hats, (sorry just picking an easy target&#8230; nothing personal)</p>
<p>Would you wear a seat belt, if it weren&#8217;t legislated?<br />
Would you buckle your baby into a safety seat?<br />
Do you ever find a list of dangerous ingredients useful?<br />
There are thousands more of the same type of government (everyone) interventions that protect you and those you are responsible for.</p>
<p>The chances of being a victim by not using those things is small, just as compared to dying from H1N1. The reason that everyone has to follow those rules is just common sense and for anyone who has to deal with, or is negatively affected by your negligence, if you chose not to be intelligent about such things. </p>
<p>Risk comparisons are irrelevant when overall safety is so easily achieved.</p>
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		<title>By: JimR</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/02/public-school-kids-are-getting-swine-flu-vaccines-without-parents-ok/comment-page-1/#comment-1596830</link>
		<dc:creator>JimR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of you have it back-asswards. It&#039;s the health community (starting with WHO) that&#039;s encouraging the media and your government to spread news that everyone should be immunized from H1N1. So the &quot;ball&quot; is dropped into the lap of our respective governments who in turn try and appease the retarded masses... &quot;We want it now!&quot; &quot;We don&#039;t want it at all!&quot; &quot;We&#039;re all going to die from H1N1.&quot; &quot;It&#039;s a government conspiracy to kill us all&quot;  

No wonder the government is so f*cked up. It accurately reflects the sum intelligence of all of us. Bottom line... we are ALL, as a group, to blame.... but we can justifiably plead group insanity.

When large groups of average public schmoes (here in Canada) showed up to get the shot... there wasn&#039;t nearly enough to go around. Those who weren&#039;t in
 the high risk group showed up to prove what selfish assholes people can be, while pregnant mothers standing in line for hours, went without.  

I guess the well conditioned government thought they could get away with promising enough for everyone, gambling that the normally apathetic public wouldn&#039;t bother to show up. SURPRISE!!! 

NOW our minister of health is saying that in December and January there will be enough vaccine... you know... when the flu season is over... just be a patient.

As for the blame game on who is at fault in this story... 

1) the nurse called for a student, doesn&#039;t say a specific or general request

2) Nikiyah&#039;s teacher misunderstood something not explained in the article that led her to send Nikiyah&#039;s for the shot.

3) The Nurse didn&#039;t check the list for Nikiyah&#039;s name.

Yep, definitely the fault of the news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of you have it back-asswards. It&#8217;s the health community (starting with WHO) that&#8217;s encouraging the media and your government to spread news that everyone should be immunized from H1N1. So the &#8220;ball&#8221; is dropped into the lap of our respective governments who in turn try and appease the retarded masses&#8230; &#8220;We want it now!&#8221; &#8220;We don&#8217;t want it at all!&#8221; &#8220;We&#8217;re all going to die from H1N1.&#8221; &#8220;It&#8217;s a government conspiracy to kill us all&#8221;  </p>
<p>No wonder the government is so f*cked up. It accurately reflects the sum intelligence of all of us. Bottom line&#8230; we are ALL, as a group, to blame&#8230;. but we can justifiably plead group insanity.</p>
<p>When large groups of average public schmoes (here in Canada) showed up to get the shot&#8230; there wasn&#8217;t nearly enough to go around. Those who weren&#8217;t in<br />
 the high risk group showed up to prove what selfish assholes people can be, while pregnant mothers standing in line for hours, went without.  </p>
<p>I guess the well conditioned government thought they could get away with promising enough for everyone, gambling that the normally apathetic public wouldn&#8217;t bother to show up. SURPRISE!!! </p>
<p>NOW our minister of health is saying that in December and January there will be enough vaccine&#8230; you know&#8230; when the flu season is over&#8230; just be a patient.</p>
<p>As for the blame game on who is at fault in this story&#8230; </p>
<p>1) the nurse called for a student, doesn&#8217;t say a specific or general request</p>
<p>2) Nikiyah&#8217;s teacher misunderstood something not explained in the article that led her to send Nikiyah&#8217;s for the shot.</p>
<p>3) The Nurse didn&#8217;t check the list for Nikiyah&#8217;s name.</p>
<p>Yep, definitely the fault of the news.</p>
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		<title>By: The0ne</title>
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		<dc:creator>The0ne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15
I don&#039;t think we&#039;re saying all media/news. Just the main crappy ones (Fox, CNBC, CNN, etc.). This is a serious issue in some parts. If you&#039;ve seen The Daily Show bit about the % numbers spewed out from these networks it is pretty sad and obvious that they are fear-mongering the public. You have cases starting from less than 10 count to I believe CNN, one of them, stating into the millions. Now that is BS reporting.

Hell, here in San Diego a whole elementary school closed because the majority of the kids didn&#039;t show up on Monday for class. Swine flu, probably not but sure is hell scary. Oddly enough I haven&#039;t head/read anything about that lately :o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15<br />
I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re saying all media/news. Just the main crappy ones (Fox, CNBC, CNN, etc.). This is a serious issue in some parts. If you&#8217;ve seen The Daily Show bit about the % numbers spewed out from these networks it is pretty sad and obvious that they are fear-mongering the public. You have cases starting from less than 10 count to I believe CNN, one of them, stating into the millions. Now that is BS reporting.</p>
<p>Hell, here in San Diego a whole elementary school closed because the majority of the kids didn&#8217;t show up on Monday for class. Swine flu, probably not but sure is hell scary. Oddly enough I haven&#8217;t head/read anything about that lately <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dr Dodd</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/02/public-school-kids-are-getting-swine-flu-vaccines-without-parents-ok/comment-page-1/#comment-1596825</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Dodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15-some news guy-I’m in the media...I’m apparently spreading panic and lies..

In the public&#039;s defense, you should know that people no longer trust what the media reports.

Kinda puts things in perspective, doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15-some news guy-I’m in the media&#8230;I’m apparently spreading panic and lies..</p>
<p>In the public&#8217;s defense, you should know that people no longer trust what the media reports.</p>
<p>Kinda puts things in perspective, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Red Hats</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Hats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a con job this swine flu business
I have more chance of a drunken schmendrick hitting me on the road than swine flu
A judgment call on if you need an injection not a wholesale for everyone and everybody event
I wish I could talk girls one millionth so well</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a con job this swine flu business<br />
I have more chance of a drunken schmendrick hitting me on the road than swine flu<br />
A judgment call on if you need an injection not a wholesale for everyone and everybody event<br />
I wish I could talk girls one millionth so well</p>
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		<title>By: some news guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>some news guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I&#039;m in the media, albeit a small town paper.  I&#039;m apparently spreading panic and lies if I report that 70% of a particular class was out on a given day with flu symptoms?  Jeebus, people.

@#1 - sure, tons of people die each year due to the &#039;normal&#039; flu.  But it seems fairly obvious that this isn&#039;t taking the normal course.  It is hitting much earlier and symptoms appear much faster than the normal flu on average.  According to the MDH presentation I attended, the whole idea of vaccinations, quarantines and isolating those who are sick is not to completely stop the flu but to slow the spread so medical facilities can keep up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I&#8217;m in the media, albeit a small town paper.  I&#8217;m apparently spreading panic and lies if I report that 70% of a particular class was out on a given day with flu symptoms?  Jeebus, people.</p>
<p>@#1 &#8211; sure, tons of people die each year due to the &#8216;normal&#8217; flu.  But it seems fairly obvious that this isn&#8217;t taking the normal course.  It is hitting much earlier and symptoms appear much faster than the normal flu on average.  According to the MDH presentation I attended, the whole idea of vaccinations, quarantines and isolating those who are sick is not to completely stop the flu but to slow the spread so medical facilities can keep up.</p>
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		<title>By: Improbus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Improbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing the government knows how to sell is fear of one sort or another.  Terrorism is sort of played out so they are need something new like the flu.  

OMG!  We are all going to die! 

Bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing the government knows how to sell is fear of one sort or another.  Terrorism is sort of played out so they are need something new like the flu.  </p>
<p>OMG!  We are all going to die! </p>
<p>Bullshit.</p>
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