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	<title>Comments on: State of California &#8220;Borrows&#8221; an Extra 10% from Taxpayers Paychecks&#8230; Interest Free of Course!</title>
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		<title>By: mam389</title>
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		<dc:creator>mam389</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know how we can start a petition for this 10% cut in our paychecks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know how we can start a petition for this 10% cut in our paychecks?</p>
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		<title>By: claudia</title>
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		<dc:creator>claudia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it an additional 10% then what they already take fr0m me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it an additional 10% then what they already take fr0m me?</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in California and California will continue to be bankrupt why? Because they will not cut funding for illegal immigrants.... That is why.... So tax payers are paying for this crap... I am all for a Freaking Recall This time its warranted...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in California and California will continue to be bankrupt why? Because they will not cut funding for illegal immigrants&#8230;. That is why&#8230;. So tax payers are paying for this crap&#8230; I am all for a Freaking Recall This time its warranted&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chrispcade</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrispcade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you spend more than you have coming in you have to raise taxes.

Either cut spending (What&#039;s left to cut in california?  nothing! They already tried to balance the budget on the old, disabled and jobless).

Raising taxes is the only other alternative. Did I mention I hate whiners?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you spend more than you have coming in you have to raise taxes.</p>
<p>Either cut spending (What&#8217;s left to cut in california?  nothing! They already tried to balance the budget on the old, disabled and jobless).</p>
<p>Raising taxes is the only other alternative. Did I mention I hate whiners?</p>
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		<title>By: freeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, so I am already having trouble keeping my bank balance positive, and when it goes negative, the banks I bailed out hiked up fees so I get completely raped (160.00 for going 15 dollars negative). Now I get to lose an extra 10% because my state can&#039;t figure shit out. Thanks Sacramento.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, so I am already having trouble keeping my bank balance positive, and when it goes negative, the banks I bailed out hiked up fees so I get completely raped (160.00 for going 15 dollars negative). Now I get to lose an extra 10% because my state can&#8217;t figure shit out. Thanks Sacramento.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part II

The problem in California is the budget requires a super majority (66%) to pass the legislature, even before being given to the Executive. This rule has hampered every budget since it was enacted. A small rump of legislatures may now hold the entire State hostage to get their way. This is neither democratic nor very efficient. Here, we have the Republicans stymieing every attempt to fix the mess. 

By law, the State is required to fund many programs, including: prisons, schools, roads and other infrastructure, law enforcement, and medicaid. There is very little room to change or reduce spending in any of these areas. 

Because of proposition laws, the jails are overfilled with three strikes prisoners and those with excessively long sentences. Yet, the Republicans refuse to allow the construction of new facilities. Programs that work, such as helping prisoners achieve education and job training to KEEP THEM OUT of jail are being eliminated . Medical services have been stretched to the point the Federal Courts have stepped in to force changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part II</p>
<p>The problem in California is the budget requires a super majority (66%) to pass the legislature, even before being given to the Executive. This rule has hampered every budget since it was enacted. A small rump of legislatures may now hold the entire State hostage to get their way. This is neither democratic nor very efficient. Here, we have the Republicans stymieing every attempt to fix the mess. </p>
<p>By law, the State is required to fund many programs, including: prisons, schools, roads and other infrastructure, law enforcement, and medicaid. There is very little room to change or reduce spending in any of these areas. </p>
<p>Because of proposition laws, the jails are overfilled with three strikes prisoners and those with excessively long sentences. Yet, the Republicans refuse to allow the construction of new facilities. Programs that work, such as helping prisoners achieve education and job training to KEEP THEM OUT of jail are being eliminated . Medical services have been stretched to the point the Federal Courts have stepped in to force changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#56, doill,

&lt;i&gt;Let me explain this since you failed social studies in grade school even if they socially promoted you.&lt;/i&gt;

Part I

And please allow someone who did pass civics to explain it to you.

The President / Governor / Mayor prepares and presents a budget. This is done using projected expenditures for the next fiscal time frame. Each department head is responsible for preparing their immediate budget goals. The Executive then fine tunes the budget to follow their platform, where necessary.

Once the Executive is satisfied with their results, the budget is presented to the legislative body. The various committees of the legislature then reviews the areas of the budget they are responsible for and then make any changes they feel are required. The various committees then return the budget back to the main legislature who votes to either accept or reject it. 

Once the budget has been accepted by the legislature, the Executive then gets to have the final decision. If he can accept the budget he signs it. If he doesn&#039;t accept the budget, he vetoes it and it is returned to the legislative branch.

If the budget is passed, each department now has the money to spend as they may UNLESS it is explicitly stated that the money be spent on a specific point. Generally that means the budget will tell them to buy &lt;i&gt;X&lt;/i&gt; number of cars, allowing the department head to decide on the exact model and trim. Sometimes the budget will states that specific land be purchased for a public project (school, road, etc) or other specific item. Usually, only very large ticket items are specified.

Most Constitutions are mute on the exact process for finalizing a budget. They all do require the vote of the legislature and approval of the Executive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#56, doill,</p>
<p><i>Let me explain this since you failed social studies in grade school even if they socially promoted you.</i></p>
<p>Part I</p>
<p>And please allow someone who did pass civics to explain it to you.</p>
<p>The President / Governor / Mayor prepares and presents a budget. This is done using projected expenditures for the next fiscal time frame. Each department head is responsible for preparing their immediate budget goals. The Executive then fine tunes the budget to follow their platform, where necessary.</p>
<p>Once the Executive is satisfied with their results, the budget is presented to the legislative body. The various committees of the legislature then reviews the areas of the budget they are responsible for and then make any changes they feel are required. The various committees then return the budget back to the main legislature who votes to either accept or reject it. </p>
<p>Once the budget has been accepted by the legislature, the Executive then gets to have the final decision. If he can accept the budget he signs it. If he doesn&#8217;t accept the budget, he vetoes it and it is returned to the legislative branch.</p>
<p>If the budget is passed, each department now has the money to spend as they may UNLESS it is explicitly stated that the money be spent on a specific point. Generally that means the budget will tell them to buy <i>X</i> number of cars, allowing the department head to decide on the exact model and trim. Sometimes the budget will states that specific land be purchased for a public project (school, road, etc) or other specific item. Usually, only very large ticket items are specified.</p>
<p>Most Constitutions are mute on the exact process for finalizing a budget. They all do require the vote of the legislature and approval of the Executive.</p>
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		<title>By: deowll</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/02/state-of-california-borrows-an-extra-10-from-taxpayers-paychecks-interest-free-of-course/comment-page-3/#comment-1597075</link>
		<dc:creator>deowll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21 Let me explain this since you failed social studies in grade school even if they socially promoted you.

The head of the executive branch in a Republic does not pass tax bills nor does he decide how to spend the money except in a limited way if he abides by the constitution. That is what the legislative branch does. 

If he does do those things it&#039;s called a dictatorship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21 Let me explain this since you failed social studies in grade school even if they socially promoted you.</p>
<p>The head of the executive branch in a Republic does not pass tax bills nor does he decide how to spend the money except in a limited way if he abides by the constitution. That is what the legislative branch does. </p>
<p>If he does do those things it&#8217;s called a dictatorship.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmeyers</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/02/state-of-california-borrows-an-extra-10-from-taxpayers-paychecks-interest-free-of-course/comment-page-3/#comment-1597067</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmeyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@48 

Nice name calling and posturing.  Looks good and totally doesn&#039;t look bottom-of-the-barrel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@48 </p>
<p>Nice name calling and posturing.  Looks good and totally doesn&#8217;t look bottom-of-the-barrel!</p>
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		<title>By: Hmeyers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hmeyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon guys

The expression goes &quot;Ask not what the country can do for you, but what can you do for the country?&quot;

Take a hit for the state of California!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon guys</p>
<p>The expression goes &#8220;Ask not what the country can do for you, but what can you do for the country?&#8221;</p>
<p>Take a hit for the state of California!</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#47 Davies was an even bigger ass than the governator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#47 Davies was an even bigger ass than the governator.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19
How is it that the State with the highest per-capita tax rate and the highest overall tax revenue cannot balance its books? Frankly, the claim that &quot;it&#039;s an expensive State to run&quot; is a load of crap. They have had more than enough money and have pissed it away along with the citizenry who vote for nonsensical bond measures like the bullet train. We already pay for that expensive central valley water in that the farmers pay higher water prices which they then pass along to consumers. 

Btw, where are the liberals that think that Obama&#039;s spending to get out a recession is good? Why don&#039;t they endorse the CA government spending even more? It&#039;s not like begin broke should ever stop them.

#47
You cannot be serious. Mr. Milk Toast? Mr. Bend over for Enron? Furthermore, if Arnold has proven anything it is that it has been the uber-liberal CA Congress that is to blame for CA woes for the past 40 years. It took a couple of propositions to force bozos like Willie Brown out and to get some semblance of gerrymandering order (only last year).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19<br />
How is it that the State with the highest per-capita tax rate and the highest overall tax revenue cannot balance its books? Frankly, the claim that &#8220;it&#8217;s an expensive State to run&#8221; is a load of crap. They have had more than enough money and have pissed it away along with the citizenry who vote for nonsensical bond measures like the bullet train. We already pay for that expensive central valley water in that the farmers pay higher water prices which they then pass along to consumers. </p>
<p>Btw, where are the liberals that think that Obama&#8217;s spending to get out a recession is good? Why don&#8217;t they endorse the CA government spending even more? It&#8217;s not like begin broke should ever stop them.</p>
<p>#47<br />
You cannot be serious. Mr. Milk Toast? Mr. Bend over for Enron? Furthermore, if Arnold has proven anything it is that it has been the uber-liberal CA Congress that is to blame for CA woes for the past 40 years. It took a couple of propositions to force bozos like Willie Brown out and to get some semblance of gerrymandering order (only last year).</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, nice way to misuse percentages. Quick web search states current CA taxes are between 1 and 9.7 percent. The increase is 10 of current percentage, NOT an increase of 10% of the base pay.

How would the headline read if it stated &quot;CA increases income tax 1%&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, nice way to misuse percentages. Quick web search states current CA taxes are between 1 and 9.7 percent. The increase is 10 of current percentage, NOT an increase of 10% of the base pay.</p>
<p>How would the headline read if it stated &#8220;CA increases income tax 1%&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Dodd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Dodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#48-Greg Allen-Ultimately it was “Reaganomics” that caused this financial disaster...

Blaming Reagan is a bit of a stretch even for you. That was 25 years ago. You complain about revising history, then do just that.

Bush on the other hand deserves a portion of the blame. As it stands, Obama is now wearing the crown so the financial well-being of the nation is his problem. 

A problem I might add that he is intentionally making worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#48-Greg Allen-Ultimately it was “Reaganomics” that caused this financial disaster&#8230;</p>
<p>Blaming Reagan is a bit of a stretch even for you. That was 25 years ago. You complain about revising history, then do just that.</p>
<p>Bush on the other hand deserves a portion of the blame. As it stands, Obama is now wearing the crown so the financial well-being of the nation is his problem. </p>
<p>A problem I might add that he is intentionally making worse.</p>
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		<title>By: The0ne</title>
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		<dc:creator>The0ne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I know is I hate this. After a pay cut and now this how the fck am I suppose to feed the family or save up? I think it&#039;s time to go on a rampage people...who&#039;s with me!!! Viva le REvolution!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I know is I hate this. After a pay cut and now this how the fck am I suppose to feed the family or save up? I think it&#8217;s time to go on a rampage people&#8230;who&#8217;s with me!!! Viva le REvolution!!!</p>
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